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Should we ban scat fetish?

It's another of those things where it won't be problem once lemmy develops more.

Right now, if I'm scrolling all, I can get hit with a face full of scat before I can implement a block. Which is a major problem for anyone using anything but jerboa or web, since none of the other apps can block things yet.

Lemmy doesn't have a flair system to auto filter things preemptively (though I think the connect app does it an the app).

I'm not a prude. I used to be a nurse's assistant, so nudity is meh to be, and I've seen more feces than is fair. I've had more feces on me than most people ever see in their life, tbh. But it would be very nice to not have to run across it because someone here made a brand new c/ that I haven't blocked yet. And again, and again, and again.

Hell, all the damn furry futa is at least funny for someone that isn't into the kink. But, for fucking real, I have seen all the shit I want to see in my life. That should be opt in only kink, you feel me? I can't opt out of seeing it the first time. So, yeah, maybe the idea of someone making an extreme kink instance that's easier to avoid since everyone will defederate it while leaving this one alone is a good idea.

Just saying, there are some things that are just not going to be welcomed by other instances. Scat is one that's likely to cause more trouble than it's worth.

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What's the longest time you've stayed completely naked, and what were u doing during that time?

In one go, never wearing any clothes at all, it would have been a week, plus or minus a few hours.

Went to stay with some like minded people for a vacation on private property at the beach. No need for clothes at all as the weather was lovely, the grounds were fenced for privacy, and plenty of supplies were laid in for everyone. Most people there didn't bother to wear anything at all. Some wore a robe, though rarely tied, instead of carrying a towel or other cloth barrier.

It was definitely a getaway for sex in various forms, but even with the dozen odd couples and handful of singles invited, there were plenty of breaks for other activities. Some would make a trip outside the property to go down to the actual beach, and would slip into swimwear, but once I rid myself of the clothes, I found I didn't want to put them back on, so never went down, except for one moonlight excursion.

Most of the non sexual time was quiet music, movies, games, and conversation.

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Do guys see selfies of girls and fantasise about them or think dirty stuff about them?

I have a "rule"

I will gladly enjoy what someone shared in scale with the apparent intent of the material.

So, a pretty woman sharing a clothed picture (even if the clothing is very sexy), isn't something I'm going to enjoy on a sexual level. I might think for a bit that it would be nice if she shared more than that, but that's where it ends.

If a woman shares a picture of her in clothing, but does so while saying something like "guess what I look like under this", that's a direct invitation to fantasize.

This means that the regular selfie on your profile isn't something that would normally lead me to sexual thoughts. And it didn't this time because the way you asked the question was interesting enough that I wanted to think about that rather than enjoy the implied permission to enjoy it sexually via fantasy.

I've never been the kind to sexualize pictures of women that weren't already sexual. I have no idea why, but even bikinis and lingerie pics never seemed sexual to me.

Don't get me wrong, I very much enjoy such pictures! But it's more the way I enjoy a painting, or someone dancing. It's beautiful, but not sexual for me.

Tbh, I don't even assume outright nudes are sexual any more. I used to, but when all those celebrities' pictures got leaked years ago, it made me rethink that. Now, if I know the person didn't share the images, I avoid them. If the picture looks like they may not have intended to share it with everyone, it's the same thing.

Not sure if you wanted that kind of response, but that's my take on things. You're very pretty though, and if you ever decide to share more of your body with the world, I'm quite sure they will make fpr wonderful fantasies.

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Sadists of Lemmy: What exactly does it make you feel, to deliberately inflict pain, consensually?

When it's consensual, it ceases to be pain, at least in the way that true sadism is about the infliction of pain and delighting in the pain itself.

The kind of safe, sane, and consensual play that I've engaged in, the goal is so different from true sadism that it might as well be called something else despite the term applying.

And I've gone pretty extreme here and there over the years. Never to the point of long term harm, that's a hard no for me. But to the point of bleeding or needing recovery time beyond the day of the session, yes.

What's weird about that is that my preferences for "sadism" are much gentler. I prefer using pain as just another sensation that blends into pleasure in the submissive. But there are people for whom the pain needs to be pain for them to achieve the mental state they prefer. It needs to not become pleasure, or they can't release and go into that state at all. And I don't mind providing that occasionally.

Mind you, I couldn't be a long term partner for someone that needed that kind of activity. It doesn't do it for me, so it would always be a one way street. But at clubs and gatherings, playing with someone that wants/needs the more extreme activity is fine, short term. Even kind of fun in its own way, but it doesn't fulfill me the way the more gentle violence does. I prefer a loving kind of pain, if that makes sense.

When I'm doing harder play, I'm usually thinking more than feeling. I'm paying attention to the amount of force used in blows, the degree of injury being applied to skin to avoid lasting harm. I don't really get to just enjoy it for myself, other than a sense of pride that I can do it right, and that the person not only trusts me to do the scene right, but in succeeding

When it's my kind of scene, the feeling of taking a person right to the edge, where I'm ramping up the sensations to match the increase in their ability to process the pain as pleasure so that it's always just barely ahead of that curve is a flow state. It's meditative, but arousing. I sink into the moment, so there's nothing but the sounds and sights of the various tools being used, there's no thoughts interfering, just the years of practice applying without the need for conscious control.

It's the sounds and the sight of skin changing, and the feel of the heat when you touch the marks left, or tug on a clamp. That's the arousing part. Some people, nudity is part of the arousal as a top, but for me that's secondary, the nudity is necessary to reach the skin to be able to work on it, and through the skin to work in the mind of the "slave". Note please, I don't use the term slave personally, if I'm going to call the sub something, I prefer other terms, but it's convenient when talking about the matter.

But that connection, where you've used their body to unlock their mind and you're in this dance of sensation leading to both of you reaching your desired state of being, that's the real "orgasm" for me. It is sexual, even if there's no sex, or no orgasms physically, but there is release. There's the feeling of satisfaction and fulfillment. That's there even when working a stranger at a gathering, where there's no "real sex" involved at all.

Don't forget though, for some masochists (again, the term isn't perfect when applied to this kind of thing), the physical sensations of pain aren't always the main thing. It can be about being controlled, being subjected to the experience and being allowed to give up their control. It can be about humiliation as well as that, and/or the pain itself.

And, I must state agains, this is about consensual play. I am not a true sadist, if the person was there against their will, it completely breaks the pleasure of it. Just the idea of that is a turn off for me. While I can do scenes where the "victim" is there involuntarily, all of the consent happens ahead of time, and that's where I'm not really into it for my own pleasure. And I dislike participating in rape play entirely, even within a structured scene where there's no force implied.

As strange as it may seem, the underlying kink for me isn't necessarily the pain involved, it's the consent. The person wanting the pain, the person wanting my efforts, that's the real turn on for me, the rest is just fun. That's why rape play doesn't work. It breaks that part of my kink, where the desire of my "slave" is there.

I have never, ever, missed a safe word, or otherwise gone past where a partner wanted to go. My ideal session is where I take them right up to the point where they think they might be ready to tap out, but aren't quite there. I don't want the fun to stop for them, or me. Safe words (or other signals, I can do gagged play) are (ideally) only used when the slave has reached fulfillment, not when the session is beyond their limits. I can't say I've never misread someone under the lash (so to speak) and had to stop, but as I got more practice in, it happened less.

The sadism part, the actual pleasure in hurting someone for real, isn't part of what I like. Again, I can provide that kind of session up to a point, but it isn't my kink. My boundaries have always been about the care needed after. No stitches, no care that goes beyond what could be provided in a home setting. If the injuries involved would go beyond that, it's a hard no for me, which isn't exactly true sadism, and I've known both masochists that want things that go beyond that point, as well as people that enjoy applying that kind of pain.

Even with all that, if I was looking for someone to play with, back when I was still active in the community, I would specify that there would be no blood at all. I never really enjoyed even minor wounds during play, I wanted things to be more controlled, and once skin starts bleeding, control of sensation is kind of gone. You can't fine tune cuts or broken skin.

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Do men like it when we swallow your cum or doesn’t really matter?

Well, yeah a lot of men are really into it.

For me, it isn't a specific fetish, but it does come with a symbolic weight that other actions don't have. Again, it isn't something I need or have a strong desire for for. But, there is something a little dejecting when someone spits it out actively. It's a subtle rejection, though fully understandable. I've had semen in my mouth, and I'm not fond of it at all.

Having had semen in my mouth, I have zero problems with anyone that doesn't want it to stay there. But it is a lot better if it isn't done in a way that's unusually intense. Sure, spit it out, but maybe don't run to do it, just casually do so. Or just back off a bit and let it hit the front of your mouth and immediately run out, if it isn't a deep throat situation.

It is true though, that the symbolic weight of accepting the seed and taking it in matters. Not just to me, I've known many men to say the same thing, though not always in those words. It is also true that a partner that enjoys the process of both making a man ejaculate and swallowing (or even spitting after savoring it) feels extra special. Again, that's not just me, other men have said similar.

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Do you want to see more dude nudes/lewds posted?

I'm all for it.

It's easy enough to filter out if a specific user gets spammy, and I got very used to seeing men naked in erotic settings a long time ago. It doesn't turn me on, but it's still nice to know that guys can share themselves and feel good.

I do have a bit of snobbery about the quality of the pictures themselves, but does that matter? I don't vote based on it, and don't even comment often enough to spend that time complaining about someone else's pics.

But you did ask for input about types of pics. Me, from the standpoint of appreciating good erotic photography, I prefer shots taken with some care and planning. Random dick picks are boring. As are those where someone is throttling their dong. We've all seen that, it ceases to be visually compelling.

A good shot that includes the rest of the body to some degree, in decent lighting, and in natural poses are top tier. A penis isn't necessary for a picture to be erotic, the same as full frontal isn't necessary for photos of women to be. So, when in doubt, diversify. Give us the line of your hip, or the way lats curve. Something showing the beauty of the male form.

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Some say that receiving oral when their head is sideways is better, because their lips are the same direction as your lips? What is your experience with various head positions?

It ends up not working well. You run into trouble because most of what makes head enjoyable for people with labia isn't the lips, it's the clit.

The way the clitoral hood is shaped, getting your tongue to work on it means coming at it from underneath is usually going to give the most consistent contact and stimulation. You can come at it from above, ala 69, but you have to pay more attention to what you're doing, and need more hands involved in many cases.

I don't doubt that some people may have different preferences, but if you want to err on the side of probability be in between their legs, looking up.

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My boyfriend has been talking a lot about sharing me. How do I convince him to do so? 😈

Generally, convincing a partner to open a relationship is a bad idea. It's better to frame it as something you'd like to try, and let them gradually warm to the idea through conversation.

But since he's bringing it up, you can modify that. Be honest. Tell him that it's a turn on. Discuss the boundaries, expectations and benefits. Let it build to a mutual desire, and it'll happen naturally.

It's usually a good idea to be very picky about who is and isn't an acceptable play partner. Strangers vs friends are a totally different vibe. Men vs women. Emotional bonding okay or not. All the little things that can make the experience go good or bad.

Back in the era of my non monogamous life, if I was sharing with other men, it had to be a situation of mutual respect. No exceptions, no mistakes on that allowed or I was out and that meant out if the boundary wasn't enforced by my partner as well. So it was almost always going to happen with friends, or in established groups for the purpose.

With women, I still insisted on that respect, it was just less likely to go wrong since even unfamiliar women willing to play were also usually all about agreements being done before play. Only ever had to call that rule into things once. Then again, even with men because it was always a mutually agreed process, it never had to go beyond a "hey man, remember we're all here to have fun, it isn't a competition" and it would be fine, no need to end the play.

Really, most guys that are bringing it up, all you gotta do is be patient and be willing to insist everything is hashed out before there's other dick in you. Which is just as true if you're all guys, as far as I ever saw, and it holds true if there's no second dick involved at all.

I've been the second guy as well. So I'd say make sure that whoever you might pick is aware of your boundaries and asks questions that show they understand what is involved, rather than them chasing tail and not caring about anything else. It's a hell of a lot nicer if you're the outsider if your new partners are clear about big issues. Like, if the couple want a bit of role play where you're playing bull, you need to know that. And the reverse is even more important; if there's something like they don't want you complimenting or encouraging either of them, you want to know that. It can be awkward as hell to express admiration of someone's cunnilingus skills and they realize that they don't want your input like that.

Remember, all the work it takes/took you and your guy to become happy partners has to be done for the third person, and it has to be right for both of you and for him/her. It's not just you having sex with the third party, even if your bf isn't in the room. There's still three interactions in play. If you're all in the room, every little dynamic might matter.

Also, since your question came with a pic, I don't think you'll have trouble finding someone, so you can afford to be picky.

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Im as kink friendly as it gets. But scat is off the menu, period.

There's plenty of stuff that I don't or won't participate in as a receiver, like sounding as an example, but it doesn't bother me at all to see. But if there's scat play going on, I'm out. Don't want to even see it, much less smell it or hear it.

My own kinks run towards bdsm. Predominantly dominance play, bondage, and pain. I'm dominant, and being tied up isn't interesting to me, but I enjoy pain for myself, though not all types in all situations.

My preference is for gentle domination rather than aggressive or demeaning, though I can do that. I just really enjoy the process of taking a partner deeper into the sensation of giving up control, sinking into the pleasure of pain. To me, the most fun way of getting there is slow, gradual, and in a way that's more a seduction into the darkness than a push. Even using floggers and whips, I like to build up, layer sensations and types of pain until the sub gets pulled under by their own mind rather than being overwhelmed from the outside.

If that's done while the sub is tied up, be it as simple as wrist cuffs, or as complex as a suspension, all the better. I like them knowing they could be free, if they asked for it, and getting right to the edge where they might safe word out, but don't want to because there's still more to experience.

But, when I'm in the mood to receive sensation, take pain, part of my enjoyment is in not needing the restraint. It's pushing myself to my own boundaries that does it for me. I want something I can grab to keep myself stable, but that I can't rely on keeping me upright. If I fall, I want to fall, not just hang there, if that makes sense.

I prefer to top women, but have topped men as well. It's less sexual with men, since I'm not attracted to them, but when the sub needs some degree of sexual activity, I can manage to do it. I can usually rely on the dominance play to give enough arousal to give them what they need, if they do need it to be sexual. A few times, back in my younger days when I was still active in the local scene, I needed a woman partner involved if a man wanted some kind of sexual interaction as part of the scene, and I definitely performed better with a woman involved.

To me, there wasn't much difference in my own enjoyment between topping a man my way, and topping a woman that preferred very hard methods, or wanted a fast ramp up in force. Sure, I didn't and don't enjoy men, and I do enjoy women, but my preference for my style of dominance and pain is more enjoyable than other ways of doing things. It's one of those "at least I'm playing at all" kind of things.

And I definitely enjoy pleasing someone that's a long term partner any way they need. But when you're playing with people at a party or small gathering, it isn't always going to be your actual partner, and it's still fun to play when single, so applying sometimes you work outside your preferences

Me and my wife play together, but we stay monogamous unless it's a very special occasion.

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Presuming that you have experienced both, how would you describe the difference between administering anal sex to a woman vs. a guy?

Well, there's a few caveats to this. First, that I'm not sexually attracted to men, which skews perceptions some. Second, that because of that, my experience with men in this way was exclusively via bdsm play where I was topping them (which allowed me to get around the lack of attraction and get erect (though I sometimes had to use support devices like a cock ring to stay erect).

Thirdly, that in terms of numbers of partners, I can count how many men I penetrated with my penis, and those I truly fucked; whereas I lost track of how many women I did anal with. So the comparison is limited.

There are differences. The obvious one is that men are taller and physically larger on average. So positions make the penis go in at different angles sometimes. Since most of the men I fucked were there to be dominated and used, they were bent over for at least part of the act, and you notice the height difference, as well as the more muscled buttocks, when they apply. But even a fairly well muscled and tall woman still has a different hip ratio, so it still isn't exactly the same.

Someone else mentioned that men sometimes have a hairier backside, and that is the case for some. You can feel the extra hair when it's present. It's scratchy as you're going in, even with a lot of lube. The hair is also much coarser on average, so even very hairy women, the hair isn't as noticeable during action.

I'd also say that men tend to be a bit more capacious. Not necessarily looser, but once they get relaxed and warmed up, they seem to be able to take more girth, and depth, than women before things get uncomfortable.

A bigger difference shows up when the man is into being fucked, whether or not they're otherwise bisexual or homosexual in the rest of their life. The men that enjoyed being fucked just responded with more gusto, particularly once things got going and the position was right to hit the prostate. The ones that were only into anal as a form of domination or humiliation were much less likely to really open up and enjoy it, which means they carried more tension if they weren't all the way broken down before or during the process.

Even when they were broken down into the right frame of mind, the ones that didn't enjoy anal per se rarely felt "alive" the way someone that likes it does. But even women that love anal don't typically respond physically the way men sometimes do. The pulsing of their orgasms feels different for one thing, but just the way men vs women feel inside when they're being fucked in just the right way for them as individuals is different. There's an extra bit of something that I find difficult to put into words. Best I can say is that the internal motions feel different as the sex happens.

I definitely prefer anal with women because I prefer women, but I suspect that if I were bi, I might prefer anal with men. The sensation of it, if you ignore everything else, is distinct, in my opinion, in a way that stimulated my penis more intensely.

There was a degree of extra fun in breaking a man down with anal though. The men that were gay or bi didn't often respond to the "threat" of it in as visceral a way. A hetero or very hetero leaning bi man would struggle with themselves more, so I could ride that tension and make the process of making them come by being fucked "worse", and in the handful of times it happened, their orgasms were intense enough to feel very good to me. Women, for whatever reason it may be, didn't tend to respond to anal as a tool of dominance and control as viscerally. So, of the ones that orgasmed, it didn't have that same power to it.

So it's one of those things where I wouldn't seek it out. If I were single and horny I'd go home alone rather than try to find a man to fuck. But, in the context of the scene, I didn't object to topping men when it worked out that way, and if if that meant fucking a man, it did feel good enough that I would occasionally come as well. Not every time, and there were a few times where I couldn't stay hard even though it felt good physically. I bring that up because of the caveats.

A lot of what people tend to feel during sex is filtered through the brain, and the brain is our biggest erogenous zone. If I were bisexual, I believe that my lived experience of fucking the exact same men in the exact same ways would have been different. And, thus, my perception of the physical stimulation likely would have been different as well. If nothing else, I'm confident that I would have had more orgasms myself, and that I wouldn't have needed support via cock rings, which tend to slightly alter sensation in their own way (not necessarily better or worse, just slightly different).

I can recommend trying to fuck someone outside of your orientation, btw. I had my kink to bridge over the lack of attraction, so it was easier in that regard. But if someone is somewhere on the gay-bi-straight slider, you can learn a lot about yourself just by making the attempt to cross over your usual attractions. You'd have to find someone willing to help you experiment, but that isn't a total barrier to entry, so to speak.

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I fantasize about being with a trans woman, but I'm straight and not sure I actually want to. Anyone feel the same and gone through with it?

I don't know that I've ever been truly torn over a fantasy. Anything I felt would be fun, I did.

It didn't all work out, of course. Most of it did, but not at every occurrence.

Take a gang bang for example. I thought it might be fun, and when a lady in one of the groups I was in wanted to have one, I signed up.

It turns out that a lot of what happens at a gang bang is waiting around watching other men masturbate. Once you have more than four or five people, you can't all have a good view of the action without extra effort and planning. It was still fun, but not as exciting as I had thought it would be. Still joined in a few later on, with varying degrees of enjoyment, but it all fell short of the fantasy.

However, performing in front of a crowd was better than the fantasy. It is unique, even if you're used to orgies and group scenes. Being on a stage, even a small one in someone's play room, being watched and applauded, it is a rush. If the crowd is bigger, there's a tipping point where it feels more anonymous, even if you know everyone. You're up there, they're watching, and waves of arousal move through the audience. People start masturbating to what you're doing, or having sex while watching you. Hard to not enjoy that feeling, and it surpassed how intense I thought it would be.

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Have you ever had sex with a pornstar?

Define star.

The days of genuine stars is either at its end, or gone, depending on who you ask.

But, as porn production expanded into the masses, you get more people working at small scale that have fan bases, if not the kind of draw power that can fill clubs on strip tours the way you could see in the 90s.

But, yeah, if you ran in the right circles back then, it was possible to encounter some of the bigger names at parties. The problem is that I was never into porn enough to recognize names unless it was a name big enough to have crossed into pop culture to a degree. Plenty of them did outcalls too, but that was never my scene.

So, back then, I did have sex with a couple of women that were porn performers, but they either weren't big names, or they at least weren't big enough I recognized them. Nor do I really remember what names I heard. Kind of useless tbh, for this.

The only one I remember by name that I met at a party, I didn't have sex with. That was Kobe Tai. As best I can remember, she didn't have sex with anyone but the guy she came with. I'm not even certain they did have sex, but they were making out.

The ones I did have sex with, it wasn't anything special. It wasn't bad at all, just not mind blowing. The one lady was essentially starfishing with everyone, and I suspect that she had been paid to show up and perform with guests. She was gorgeous, and her pussy was very alive despite her just laying there. Squeezing and almost rippling inside. Maybe that's why she was not moving much, to concentrate on that.

The other back then was more interesting. Again, no clue what her name was. I wouldn't have known she was a performer on film if I hadn't been told later. She was on a stage at one point, with a guy that was also a pro, but after their performance, she went around the party basically riding cocks for an hour or so; condoms mandatory. She made me come, and either faked one really well, or came as well. There was certainly a lot of internal action while she made a lot of noise lol.

More recently, back before I got married and settled into monogamy after a bad car accident, I did film a couple of scenes with a lady that did her own porn. I was masked, and it was BDSM based. So it was very fun, but definitely not something I could do regularly. Too many interruptions for the sake of filming things. I couldn't really get into the right head space for it to be fulfilling. Still a fun experience, just not the same as doing it for mutual pleasure.

Boring as hell in other words. I have a ton of great stories from my youth, but those aren't among them.

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A new poll showed that 23% of respondents confessed to having had sex with their partner while their roommate was in the room. Have you ever done that? What was it like?

Plenty of times.

Some were just that, where a roomie was in the room and that was all. Living room sex, or the door to the bedroom was non existent and was right across from the couch, that kind of thing.

Others were where the roomie was specifically enjoying the show because the women I was with tended towards exhibitionism since I was pretty deep into the local scene for group activity.

A few were more organized shows for a roommate's enjoyment, during a span where I had a roommate that was very into watching. One of those times was with a girlfriend of hers that was into guys too, and we got along well enough to perform for my roomie.

Obviously, those weren't casual roommates, or short term acquaintances.

For a while I lived with a friend that was gay, and we didn't have much space, being young and broke at the time. Since I also didn't have any issues with seeing men go at it (though, alas, I also wasn't turned on by it), we tended to only bring home partners that were okay with being seen and not enjoyed lol. There were also several times where we'd both have someone over.

Over the years, most of my roommates were friends first, so I made sure to know what their boundaries were before sharing space. Luckily, being deep into the scene meant that most of my friends were from the scene. So for the ten odd years I had a roommate almost constantly, it was unusual for one to object to sex happening around them at all. Most were not only okay with it, but enjoyed it to some degree.

The few that weren't friends first were really early on, after high school and for a brief span after college while finding the right job. Well, plus a cousin that moved to the area and needed a place while she got situated. That era was also really early into my time in the group scene, so I wasn't often bringing people home. Hadn't built up friendships in those circles yet.

Past the late nineties, I never lived with anyone that wasn't either a partner or quite comfortable with (if not a part of) group sex activities in some aspect.

By the end of the early 2000s, I had been in a very bad car accident, so my group activities were curtailed heavily, as was sex in general tbh. I met and married my wife during that, and we didn't need a roommate financially, so the only times someone stayed with us long term, they were friends or relatives. That's the way things still are, though both of us have "retired" from non monogamy, and don't have any desire to show off. So even if someone did live with us, we wouldn't be doing anything significant around them.

But the decade of the nineties, roommates came and went fairly often, as did locations. Often at the same time. It wasn't anything meant to be long term, though a few people were roomies a handful of times each.

It was a lot of fun.

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Multiple times.

For the most part, it's like you said: someone changing clothes, or losing them via unintended consequences like jumping into a pool wrong and not realizing it.

Many years ago, my family went camping to one of our favorite spots. As usual, I set up my tent close to the creek. Every morning after that, and occasionally if I was relaxing and reading, the campers from across the creek would be visible as they used the bushes, but didn't realize said bushes weren't hiding anything from our direction, only from their own camp.

I was young enough that I wasn't going to say anything because it was a bit of a rush, and I had no clue how to go about letting them know they were entirely exposed as they did their business.

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Verbal dominance, how do you do it?

One part body language, one part voice control, and one part words

A lot of dominance is about how you approach a person, right? You tie them up, bend them over, whatever, but it's about establishing position. So when you can't touch or do that, you use your body. Get closer to them, inside their space. Loom over them, even if you happen to be shorter. By owning their space, you control their mind at least a little.

Then, you use your voice. Going deeper is helpful. A growled threat is often more effective than a slap, and it's almost always better than your normal voice. Volume matters, but not louder. You're in close already, so put some menace into your voice, lean in a little closer, and drop the volume. A little audible sneer may go well for a brat too.

When choosing words, I tend to like starting with questions, especially when someone is playing brat. You lure the brat out, ask them if they know what's going to happen if they don't obey. As soon as they start to answer, interrupt and tell them only to answer when told to. Ask again, let the brat start to surface and interrupt with a sharp sound, like slapping your own leg, or a table, then tell them you didn't say they could talk.

Some brats escalate, others are going to be shaken out of it since most brat play is about the acting out and eventual punishment. So, when you change the script, it flips a different switch in their head, it breaks out of the expected. When you do that, it doesn't matter if they escalate, because you double down on the quiet and forceful side or things. If it breaks them into being a good little girl the first few times, that's great too; nothing wrong with an easy move into their headspace.

You can, with a bit of luck and some practice, get some subs all the way into their subspace with no touches at all, if you keep ramping up the pressure by using your presence and voice.

It helps if you imagine them tied up or on their knees as well. Getting into the right metal space makes the performance easier because it stops being a performance, you become menacing and in control.

I can't promise it'll work, as obviously everyone is different, and your little brat may need a different scene. But it usually does work when doing something physical isn't possible.

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Question about PIV 2 women without wiping off cock before moving to the second one

Everything has a risk in terms of bacterial/microbial transfer. That's why you never go ass to mouth, or ass to vagina; the risk is high enough to be prohibitive.

Now, vaginas are just as microbially rich as any other part of the body, so the risk of something transferring and causing problems is definitely not zero.

Luckily, most vaginas are going to have similar species living in and around them. It's all about balance. That's how yeast infections and bacterial vaginosis happen. Something throws the balance off. It can be something as simple as a change in diet or as direct as a pathogen breaching the defenses.

But, it can be triggered by sex. Your dick doesn't have the same proportions of microbes, and the exact strains of each are going to be at least a little different. It's why a new partner can sometimes cause trouble even when nothing else is involved.

With sex, the microbes on the penetrating object are going much deeper than they'd ever get on their own. So the natural ability of the vagina to clean itself out is partially bypassed.

That's where your question comes into play. If you go from one vagina to another, you will be carrying samples of their biomes between them. Assuming no STD involvement, the risk comes down to yeast, staph, strep, and trichomonas (though that is not necessarily going to be a standard part of the biome). Yeast in particular is on all of us, all the time. You can't avoid it.

This means that if the strains of the three people involved are different enough, or their proportions are off enough, then it's fairly likely that one or more of the group will end up with their personal biome off balance. When that happens, one of the species is going to outgrow the others, leading to symptoms.

That risk can't be totally eliminated, even with bathing in between. That would make the risk absurdly low, but still non zero.

The good thing is that since vaginal secretions are going to be balanced for the person producing them, chances are also good that it won't cause any problems. It'll give a bit of cushion for the new body to adapt and rebalance.

Back in my days of doing group scenes and outright orgies, some women would just have yeast medications ready to go. It wasn't like it would happen all the time, but it is part of the hassle of sharing fluids.

Barring a pathogen that's more aggressive, or that doesn't have good treatments, you're looking at mild annoyance rather than danger. Assuming everyone gets tested for the dangerous stuff, it isn't a major concern.

Also, pics or it didn't happen (I'm 100% joking with that, unless that's part of your fun)