Spyke
lemmy.world

“peacefully”

He’s lying,..again.

Some of the last words he said before the insurrection were “we have to fight like hell” and “if you don’t fight like hell you’re not going to have a country”.

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Also: "I don't effing care that they have weapons. They're not here to hurt me."

As he tried to pressure the secret service to violate their duties and remove metal detectors from the mall that morning.

Trump knew Proud Boys (bitches) and Oath Keepers (breakers) stashed weapons nearby.

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lemmy.world

“I’m not an Insurrectionist,” Trump wrote on Truth Social, specifically pointing to his comments on Jan. 6 in which he encouraged supporters to march to the Capitol “peacefully and patriotically.”

And then, when they rioted and broke into the Capitol, like you knew they would, you did nothing to stop them. You could have called in the National Guard. Instead, you told them you loved them. You loved them because they did your bidding.

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Nougatreply
kbin.social

Not only does his inaction speak volumes, he also tweeted out about Pence "not having courage" and got on the phone to call Senators while the Capitol was being invaded to get them to halt the electoral vote count.

Read the Colorado ruling, it's worth it.

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lemmy.world

Anyone still have the footage of the Trumps and their accolytes in those tents watching the Jan 6 capital invasion while toasting champagne?

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I have the hours of violence recorded in the main archway where they were using siege tactics and human battering rams to try to break through the main doors and the officers blockading it with shields, weapons, and massive amounts of teargas.

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One of the people in the White House wrote that he was transfixed by the tv coverage, refused to do anything to interrupt their momentum, and was angry they weren't more aggressive (and also very annoyed that they weren't better dressed / more classy).

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Sounds like something an insurrectionist would did say.

Fixed that for you.

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moistclumpreply
lemmy.world

Clinton: “I did not have sexual relations with that woman.”

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em2
lemmy.ml

I guess he wants us to get it right and say it was a failed coup.

Insurrection: The act or an instance of revolting especially violently against civil or political authority or against an established government.

Coup: A sudden decisive exercise of force in politics and especially the violent overthrow or alteration of an existing government by a small group.

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lemmy.world

It was a violent revolt against political authority. Specifically, congress.

It was an coup attempt via insurrection.

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blazeknavereply
lemmy.world

Umm... It was also a coup attempt by him cold calling his Rolodex and demanding they break laws against the federal election process.

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lemmy.today

Trump also claimed Biden is an insurrectionist and a threat to democracy, continuing a pattern in which the former president accuses his opponents and critics of the same thing he is accused of doing.

Darvo

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Curse you, Biden, and you're insurrection via... an infrastructure bill and forgiving some student loans?

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It's been like a decade of this madness. Also, as bad as all the impending autocracy sounds on paper.. taking a breath the last few years, I feel like we've forgotten what it felt like when he was prez, and nobody will show up to vote

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lemmy.world

Did he put his hands up with two peace signs when he said it?

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lemmy.world

Trump also claimed Biden is an insurrectionist and a threat to democracy

It'd be funny if his supporters didn't take this nonsense seriously.

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2016:

Clinton: Trump is a Russian agent.

Trump: NO U

2023:

Biden: Trump is an insurrectionist.

Trump: NO U

Truly nothing says wrongfully accused like the "I know you are but what am I?" defense 🙄

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kbin.social

Trump is an insurrectionist and everyone who supports him is a traitor

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The fact that the supreme court didnt immediately say the president doesn't have immunity for attempting to dismantle our government system is tip toeing treason. Seems clear that insurrection is performed by an enemy of the state. How would delaying such a ruling not be considered giving aid or comfort?

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lemmy.world

My favorite thing about that is that after Kinzinger told everyone Trump stinks, one of Trumps' people responded by saying that Kinzinger once farted on live TV. Which, you know, is just as bad as a persistent shit smell. Everyone knows that once you fart, that fart stays with you for life.

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My god that’s an awful website. I think my phone is going to get cancer from all the ads covering screen.

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lemmy.world

Its so funny a computer can generate an exact monologue like his standard parole/speech

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Can it? I would have thought an LLM would be unable to reproduce something that stupid and nonsensical.

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lemmy.world

If it looks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck then it must be a duck.

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lemmy.world

This is literally what I had in mind, except with his gross yellow greasy hair!

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lemmy.ca

He's a sore loser. The very bigliest of losers!

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He is the best loser ☝️ There is nobody that lose as YUUUUUUGELY as he can 👌

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So peaceful that one person was shot and killed, 138 police officers suffered various injuries, and 4 others committed suicide in subsequent months. And that’s not even all of it…

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lemmy.world

And condensed feces running down his orangutang orange crack 🍑

Do me a favor: don't Brave/DuckDuckGo

donald trump + arbitrage

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But it's not an insurrection, it's a sparkling carbonated government overthrow!

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lemmy.world

And he's perfectly correct. Insurrections happen from below - Trump was literally the president of the damn country.

No, he's not an insurrectionist. You could make the case that this was an (extremely) bumbling attempt at an autocoup... but it's such an incompetent one that it hardly justifies the word outside of a purely legal framework. He should have asked the dictators from those "shithole countries" he famously disparaged how to do it - they'd show him how properly done autocoups really work.

What I find so strange is that the media in the US doesn't want to talk about what Trump actually did - sicc a white lynch mob on the capitol. That's what it was. Fortunately, it was a very incompetent one - the only people they managed to lynch was some of their fascist besties (ie, police - the institution that protected Trump's fascist enablers from antifa when they were marching in the streets). Yet, for some reason, everybody looks at this and squeals, "insurrection!" instead of calling it what it really is.

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lemmy.world

insurrection /ĭn″sə-rĕk′shən/

noun

  1. The act or an instance of open revolt against civil authority or a constituted government.
  1. A rising up; uprising.
  1. The act of rising against civil authority or governmental restraint; specifically, the armed resistance of a number of persons to the power of the state; incipient or limited rebellion.

He did all three of those things. He's an insurrectionist.

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masquenoxreply
lemmy.world
  1. Trump was the government at the time.

  2. He didn't rise to squat - there was literally nothing above him to "rise" against.

  3. See no.1

No insurrection to see here, Clyde.

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masquenoxreply
lemmy.world

And what he and his people rose up against

Lol! Hey, if you are really desperate to pretend that Trump is some kind of "underdog" "rebelling" against the establishment, be my guest.

Trump and his ilk is the establishment - there is absolutely nothing for them to "insurrect" against. Hasn't been in the US since a pack of rich slavers decided to pretend to be revolutionaries.

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lemmy.world

I am not pretending any such thing. And, again, the court literally found that he was responsible for an insurrection. Why is the court wrong? Because if it's wrong, Trump should be on the ballot in Colorado. Is that what you believe?

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masquenoxreply
lemmy.world

I am not pretending any such thing.

This you?

And what he and his people rose up against was the certification of Joe Biden’s electoral win.

Zig-zagging sideways does not conflate to up.

Because if it’s wrong, Trump should be on the ballot in Colorado.

Is that what you are really worried about? A rich white supremacist trust-fund baby sicced a white lynch mob on people in the US in front of the world's cameras, got away with it scott-free and you think your problems only extends to said white supremacist trust-fund baby ending up in the Waffle House again?

I'd say you might want to start worrying about the factors that enabled him to be there in the first place.

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You still have not explained why the Colorado ruling that he fomented insurrection is wrong. It's sort of looking like you aren't able to. I'm guessing it's because you aren't a legal expert.

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  1. Trump was the government at the time.

I'm sorry, did people break into the Whitehouse or Congress? He's the Executive, not the entire government.

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“I DIDN’T rob the bank! The money never left the building before I got arrested!”

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lemmy.world

The president serves the people, the nation.

The country is not owned by the President.

The President is not a king.

It is not their's to do with as they please.

It is a job.

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The president serves the people, the nation.

Your proof of this is what?

The country is not owned by the President.

No argument from me. It might be a good idea to ask who it is that actually do own it, though.

The President is not a king.

Kings aren't kings any more.

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