Spyke
lemmy.world

They are sending Gaza back a hundred years,” and argued that the international community is “complicit” in the “extermination” being carried out by Israel

So very true. We’re reacting to the present destruction of Gaza and asking for a ceasefire.

What does the future look like in Gaza? Any financial commitments to rebuild? Even when the bombings finally stop, how does Gaza survive?

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bobalotreply
lemmy.world

I get your point but right now, Vietnam is rapidly developing economy.

Many companies are moving their manufacturing from China to Vietnam.

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lemmy.world

Germans and Japanese are hard working people who value life over petty revenge. It's up to the Gazans more than anything.

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idiocracyreply
lemmy.zip

good question, and there are no solutions yet. one thing for sure is israel will not accept hamas existance anymore, nor should anyone with a working moral compass.

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seen as how it's abundantly clear that the Israeli govt is also an incredibly terroristic institution, no one with a moral compass should accept their existence either, right?

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one thing for sure is the world should not accept IDFs and Netanyahus existence anymore, nor should anyone with a working moral compass.

Also username checks out

Hamas sucks so let’s bomb a buch of children

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kbin.social

War is funny.
WWI started because everyone had to respect their treaties and join their allies into war.
Then WWII started because countries didn't join together from the start.

So, even if we learn from our past mistakes and avoid making them, with war, we can only do worse the next time.

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idiocracyreply
lemmy.zip

humans developed civilization too quickly for darwinism to adjust

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*Natural selection. Darwinism is something else entirely.

something else entirely how?

the up votes of that comment are a proof of the delusional circlejerking around fake news and half truths in here, thanks for helping me prove it

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lemmy.ca

Alareer, a literature professor with the Islamic University of Gaza, warned us a month ago about how Israel is using “hunger as a weapon of war.” The Gaza Strip is facing major hunger issues as it enters the third month of the war instigated by the October 7 Hamas attack that killed 1,200 people in Israel. “The people of Gaza are dying of hunger,” said Alareer. “We have very little food or water due to Israel’s blockade. This is a systematic extermination – the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians in Gaza. It’s a continuation of the Israeli ethnic cleansing that started over 75 years ago,” referring to the creation of the Israeli state in 1948.

A systematic extermination and an ethnic cleansing supported and facilitated by the USA.

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Popular Front had a podcast interview with him a month ago, it's insane to hear all of the bombs going on around him even then.

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I saw the article mentioned he had defended the Oct 7 attack so after some googling:

Soon after the 7 October Hamas attack – which killed about 1,200 people, mostly civilians, with about 240 kidnapped – Alareer caused outrage during a BBC interview by calling it “legitimate and moral” and “exactly like the Warsaw ghetto uprising”, the broadcaster said.

Yikes. Defending oct 7 was pretty fucked up move on his behalf but what Israel keeps doing is arguably worse. Both Hamas and Israel leadership need to be removed from this world....

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Jamilreply
lemm.ee

What Israel is doing is worse, yet most world leaders are justifying Israel's actions. Nobody seems to be condemning these political slimeballs. It seems that Hamas, a violent liberation movement is being held to a higher standard than nation states.

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Jamilreply
lemm.ee

People called the ANC in South Africa and Nelson Mandela a terrorist too. It's a label to try and vilify and dehumanize the other. The reality is that Israel is an apartheid state, and it's committing genocide against the Palestinians. Hamas is only a product of that and they can only be defeated by ending the crimes against humanity.

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Words don't justify a death sentence. This is the same bullshit reasoning that gets trotted out by bootlickers every time a cop murders a black person in the US. There's a mad scramble to find the worst thing the victim ever did and claim that makes their murder ok.

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I'll hold off judging him for that. War and murder are never justified. But sometimes there are definitely reasons. With the Israeli government treating them like animals and commiting war crimes. There were definitely reasons for the attack. And Israel definitely is not innocent, or a good guy here.

It's inarguable that hama's attack only made the Palestinian situation worse. And was illogical/irrational. But this is how those who are cornered with no hope act. And that is all on Israel.

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Akisambreply
programming.dev

I mean yes in the sense that the capture of civilians has a clear military objective. Doesn't make it less awful.

One genocidal state doesn't justify another one. There are no good guys in this conflict. That said one side has more bombs than the other so we should be focusing on that side. But please, no justifying war crimes.

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???reply
lemmy.world

I think many find it hard to believe Israel now. The Hamas side of the story is that Hamas were good to the hostages (and we have testimonies for that), and that many attacks were done by Gazan civilians who followed the fighters who broke down the fence, and indeed the video of Shani, the German Israeli, showed non-combatants parading her naked, not Hamas fighters.

Probably in a different narrative, Hamas performed a justified military operation to take hostages to free their own prisoners (whom we know are illegally detained by Israel without a charge and living through hell and torture in Israel prisons, at young ages). So far, it looks justied. Add to that all the evidence we have showing that many people on October 7th, especially those burned, were killed by IDF that was acting as though on steroids. I would be naive to assume no rape happened, but Israel's evidence for "systemic rape as a war tactic" is extremely flimsy. Israel killed its own people and is now milking their dead bodies for PR to justify a genocide.

That being said, no documented crimes can be denied. A Hamas fighter throwing a grenade into a safe room full for people - there is footage of that.

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kbin.social

that being said, no documented crimes can be denied. A Hamas fighter throwing a grenade into a safe room full for people - there is footage of that.

Yeah. That guy should probably be hung.

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If only executions reduced or prevented overall crime and violence...

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That guy should probably be hung.

What's the size of his cock have to do with it?

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idiocracyreply
lemmy.zip

u really eat what a terrorist organization feeds u that easily?

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yuriyreply
lemmy.world

oh shit, you’re above religion? you must be so cool and smart!

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lemmy.world

And the Dems are already saying they're gonna vote for Genocide Joe again....

Hold your nose, close your eyes, turn off your brain and vote everyone!

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lemmy.world

2 whole sentences to say absolutely nothing.... hope you have better days in the future

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Linkerbaanreply
lemmy.world

They tell you not to support apartheid and genocide. Very difficult thing to understand indeed.

Biden just vetoed the ceasefire.

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prolereply
sh.itjust.works

Biden just vetoed the ceasefire.

Do you think Biden is in command of Israel's military?

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Of course not. Israel is in charge of America's military.

Also if Biden voted yes then the genocide would have immediately ended.

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Because the UN realized this was just for show and it isn't worth including and they would have to condemn israel too if they condemned Hamas.

America is going to veto it anyways that's the point. Trying to suck up to America is pointless.

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harkreply
lemmy.world

"At least he's not trump" is their only response and democrats worked hard to promote fascists like him to make sure that was the only response they'll ever need.

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lemmy.ca

“At least he’s not trump” is their only response

When it's a binary choice like that, then there's only one option.

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yuriyreply
lemmy.world

Almost like a two party political system is intrinsically limited to a “lesser of two evils” situation every single fucking time. Whacky.

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Well, like it or not, that's the system we have right now, and so long as it is, by the time the main election comes around, the only options are a) violent overthrow, b) abstain from voting, or c) vote for the least bad option presented.

I don't think we're quite to the point yet where violent overthrow is necessary or justified.

Abstaining just means you accept whatever the outcome is, and thus have no leg to stand on when you don't like the outcome.

In my mind that leaves option c as the only valid option, with the added requirement of working in between elections towards pushing for changes in the voting system.

I don't pretend to be a fan of Biden. But despite his shortcomings, he's still a damn sight better than Trump or RFK Jr. And nobody else running has a snowball's chance in hell, and most of them are crackpots anyway. So until such a time as we have better options, I will continue to vote for the least bad option.

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