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Welcome All!

Yet another lemmy instance proudly hosted in Montreal, Canada. Still need to get a icon created, if there are any designers here who would like to contribute please feel free to post!

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Thanks Mr. Dude for this instance. I will try not to be a lurker like I usually am, and help contribute to the community.

I am an early (I think) refugee from reddit. Can anyone recommend some communities to join? Still confused about the whole federated thing. Tried Mastodon a while back, but as someone who never used twitter I was pretty confused.

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sh.itjust.works

I checked the user count compared to an hour ago and we have 40 new users on the instance. Lol. This is really accelerating.

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sh.itjust.works

Thank you! Tuning in from east coast USA. Does the Lemmy community overall have a plan for the inevitable dupe communities across instances?

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Yeah, been trying to learn Rust & Typescript to contribute towards a multireddit feature, but it's definitely an uphill struggle. I'm out of my depth.

Overall though, the fragmentation is mainly just users trying to make this "Reddit 2.0" instead of letting it develop more naturally, and spamming new communities like mad.

In terms of actually active subreddits with actual users & posts & whatnot, which of these 5 is the "real" technology subreddit?

/r/Tech /r/Technology /r/TechNews /r/Computing /r/TechSupport

I could continue, but there's a lot more. I don't think most redditors understand how fragmented everything is.

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Just joined from the Mid-Atlantic portion of the 95 corridor myself!

I'd love for someone else to chime in with an answer to your question, because that's something I've been wondering myself. I'm pretty sure the general plan in a federated ecosystem is "one of them will become more active, becoming the 'main' one", i.e. it's an intended feature not an issue. I'm interested to see how that fragmentation might impact an already small user base.

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I think the fragmentation is a feature; if a server wants to have a Reddit moment and take their ball and go home, the other communities are all still there. Getting the UI to combine the communities visually would be nice, though. I'm sure we'll get there eventually.

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Hello! I can finally kick my reddit habit. I have a mastodon account, so I'm already familiar with federation. But these two formats are like very different flavors of ice cream, you know? Happy to be here.

Je peux parler francais aussi. Merci pour l'instance :)

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sh.itjust.works

Hello from Baghdad. Thanks for hosting. This fediverse needs some getting used to.

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How quick does this instance load for you compared to other sites you visit? I'm curious to how well it peers with Baghdad!

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lemmy.ml

Hi all, wandering around random small Lemmy servers seeing if I can be of use. To pull communities into your instance, you need to first have someone subscribe. Useful picture in this comment, but basically you go to "Communities" at the top, and start a search with the full URL of the community you want (https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy, for example) and change "Communities" to "All" in the search options.

Once you've clicked through to the community and subscribed, it'll be pulled in forever. If you want to dig around for communities to subscribe to, go to the community finder.

Good luck, and see you around Lemmy :)

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Greetings from about 5 hours southeast, thanks for setting up this server! Should be interesting to see what happens over the next few days.

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Hey! I saw you posting about this domain name on reddit. Glad you went with sh.itjust.works!

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Thank you for hosting! I'm trying to branch out from the main instance since they're under so much load right now. It looks like there are already some good communities on here, too.

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sh.itjust.works

Howdy from Scotland. Just dipping my toes in the fediverse, and trying to work things out. Thanks for hosting and welcoming!

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manifexreply
sh.itjust.works

Oiiii!!! Went to a Scottish college in the US: Macalester. Need to get to the highlands sometime in my life! Welcome!

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sh.itjust.works

Very cool, looks like a good school. And aye, there's a reason the highlands are so popular. Especially this time of year with long days and endless green, and September/October for bleak and moody days. Definitely worth a trip.

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Thanks man, it was a great school to go to and I had my hand at learning bagpipes - fucken tough. I almost studied abroad at our sister school in Edinburgh, but ended up in Tokyo. I'm definitely making it to Scotland!

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sh.itjust.works

Hi! Thanks for setting up this instance! I've also been advising newcomers to sign up here since you seem to have the resources for it.

However, I have been seeing some weird behavior in some federated posts: vote discrepancies and also comments not showing up.

E.g. compare
https://feddit.de/post/764358 with
https://sh.itjust.works/post/9023 (same post federated here)

All votes and comments are missing. Now I don't expect Lemmy to be 100% bug-free of course, but this seems serious. Could you please investigate this?

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sh.itjust.works

I'm new here, to this Lemmy thing as well as this 'instance'? (I feel like I'm using hip new words).

I think I have managed to subscribe to a boardgame community that is hosted on !boardgames feddit.de- I can't see the comments and such when viewing from here as well.

I'm also having difficulty finding and adding this solo boardgame community because I can't get it to show up in the search box. Is this a Lemmy thing or an instance thing?

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sh.itjust.works

I think the issue with feddit.de is that, "I think", it is blocking the federetaion with this server. I may be totally wrong, since I am digging how this works for like 1h, but I can see this server as "blocked" here: https://lemmymap.feddit.de/ I wish there was a list instead of the map because it is unreadable, but you can search for sh.itjust.works there. Remember to select "blocked" first in the bottom left.

EDIT: Incorrect information. Read comments below.

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itzpeareply
sh.itjust.works

So if it is blocking us, then the only solutions on my end would be:

  1. Try to reach out to someone and see if it could be unlocked/if it was intentional or
  2. Sign up with another instance where the main communities I want aren't blocking them

I'm not very network/backend/whateverisgoingonhere savvy.

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I think the most appropriate way would be for @TheDude to reach out to their team and request federation.

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sh.itjust.works

Yes (I think). The two approaches above are the ones that comes to mind. Again, I am super-new here so I really hope I am not misleading you ^^; And what @[email protected] just commented (reaching out ot the admin).

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borarireply
sh.itjust.works

Commenting just to add that you can go to the /instances endpoint of any Lemmy server to see the instances they are and are not federated with. The feddit.de list can be seen here. Their list shows that they are federated with us.

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borarireply
sh.itjust.works

I was reading comments on another post that were talking about issues regarding pulling in the post/comment history of a community on another instance prior to a user subscribing to the community on their own "home" instance.

I think I have managed to subscribe to a boardgame community that is hosted on !boardgames feddit.de- I can’t see the comments and such when viewing from here as well.

You should be able to click on the link in your "Subscribed" panel on the right of the page to go to the specific community page. Your browser URL bar and the page header should still show that you are on sh.itjust.works, since you are indeed still here. On the backend, the sh.itjust.works server is talking to the feddit.de server and saying "Hey, I have a user that wants to see content from this boardgame community you have. Can you send me any new posts for that community?".

Here's where I get fuzzy. I am under the impression that while posts themselves will federate from the main instance to the database for this instance, until someone here interacts with them, meaning they upvote, downvote, or comment on it, comments won't propagate? I might be completely wrong here though.

If I'm wrong about any of this please let me know!

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If an account here is subscribed to a community, and someone posts a comment in that community, then it will be federated to this server. It just won't go back and federate old comments unless someone copies the comment link and searches for it.

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sh.itjust.works

This all is cool, but I'm sad the biggest instance by far is admined by tankies. Like this guy gets quickly banned for posting articles about North Korea and Russia in the world news community.

I really don't see this popping off if new instances aren't willing to block the "main" instance.

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imaqtpiereply
sh.itjust.works

He didn't get banned that quickly, he basically called out tankie propaganda for a week before they banned him.

The beauty of this platform is that we actually can block the main instance and also create as many world news communities of our own as we want. It won't take long before the OG communities are outnumbered anyway.

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A communist who is supportive of authoritarian regimes like Stalin/Mao zedong. They tend to think in terms of opposing capitalism, and therefore any regime which challenges US hegemony can be justified regardless of horrific human rights abuses.

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devareply
sh.itjust.works

The admin could block it, but it seems already too popular to block given no one else has blocked it yet and most users are on it.

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imaqtpiereply
sh.itjust.works

They have already run out of server capacity. They have fewer than 10k users. There will almost certainly be another instance that becomes the default if the reddit exodus occurs as expected.

Also, I haven't seen any instances of lemmy.ml being super aggressive or restrictive. Lemmygrad.ml is blocked by most instances.

If I'm being completely honest, I'll take communists over fascists 10 times out of 10. A leftist backbone is a convenient shield against the alt-right cancer that tends to inhabit these fringe internet communities.

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sh.itjust.works

If I’m being completely honest, I’ll take communists over fascists 10 times out of 10. A leftist backbone is a convenient shield against the alt-right cancer that tends to inhabit these fringe internet communities.

100% agreed. While I'm glad the more edgelord/4chan style of instance is blocked here, I appreciate and value the leftist ideals the Lemmy project seems to have been built on, because without them this federated platform probably wouldn't exist as it currently does.

The lemmy[.]ml admins have definitely handed out lengthy temp bans to people from their own instance who were posting a lot of pro-Russia, pro-China, more authoritarian left type of content for getting combative/disrespectful in comments. I don't see why anyone cares what kind of political viewpoints a site admin has as long as they moderate fairly and don't let their internal bias lead to them playing favorites when they should be impartial. The modlog being public is a great way for the community at large to audit that type of thing, and is one of the many things I think the Lemmy project has implemented much better than Reddit ever did.

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moderate fairly and don't let their internal bias lead them to playing favorites

So, nobody should be an admin then? It's nigh impossible to completely eliminate personal biases.

The mod log being public is great, and I'll have to make use of that.

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borarireply
sh.itjust.works

I think you misunderstood me. I agree that it's impossible to completely eliminate personal biases, which is why it's important that administrators and moderators of any site be capable of recognizing their own biases so they can make a conscious effort to moderate fairly.

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Or instead, try to get moderators from different backgrounds so they can be a check on each other. Diversity is generally a good thing, and I'd like a bit more transparency on who has moderation powers.

But the modlog bring public should at least give users enough transparency to point out bad moderation, so that's certainly a critical aspect of it.

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devareply
sh.itjust.works

I’d rather reject all genocidal maniacs instead of acting like I need to prefer one over the other for practicality.

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imaqtpiereply
sh.itjust.works

I haven't seen anyone advocating for genocide but good for you, you're against genocide

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devareply
sh.itjust.works

https://raddle.me/f/lobby/96713/heads-up-the-tankie-behind-lemmy-ml-got-banned-from-r

dessalines AKA parentis_shotgun on reddit was banned by the r/socialism mod team for posting fascist LaRouchite propaganda and then praising the reactionary author, who is also a climate change denier who writes conspiracy theory books about the "NWO". He demanded to be unbanned but then made things even worse in their modmail by saying “putting Uyghurs in concentration camps aint cultural genocide because they're extremists”, among other awful things. He refused to apologize for using fascist literature to condemn Uyghurs, and instead kept defending it, so they aint unbanning him.

That’s the admin of the main instance. Advocating genocide.

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So I can see that he is interested in and possibly a fan of Lyndon LaRouche, who was a bit of a wackjob but also a free thinker. And he questions whether the treatment of Uyghurs is actually a genocide, which I dont agree with, but is within the realm of rational inquiry. There are no unbiased sources regarding that issue, its all propaganda from both sides. And I can also see that he refused to apologize to the mods of r/socialism.

At no point did you provide evidence that someone was advocating for genocide.

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Hello from Northeastern South Canada! Thanks for opening an instance and throwing resources at it like you have.

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Sup! Just migrated from the Lemmy.ml instance to give it some breathing space. Thanks for setting this up. It’s fast as f*ck on my mobile browser.

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sh.itjust.works

Hey everyone!

Excited to join the Lemmy train, while not my first federated experience (been used and working on federated platforms for quite a while) I'm excited for a more reddit-like one as that's the kind of social network which seems to gel with me best. Thanks for setting this up!

I've noticed that some communities from other instances don't seem easily accessible. For example the nintendo community on lemmy.ml. I think it should be available at https://sh.itjust.works/c/[email protected] but that just 404s. Of course this could be user error, let me know if I'm using it wrong :)

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Barbarianreply
sh.itjust.works

Hey! So, communities aren't pulled in until at least 1 person on this server is subscribed to it. What you need to do is go to Communities at the top, search for the full URL (https://lemmy.ml/c/nintendo), switch the search from "Communities" to "All", then wait ~10 seconds or so for it to pull in the community. Then just follow the link and hit the "Subscribe" button on the right.

Once that happens, that link (https://sh.itjust.works/c/[email protected]) will work for everyone.

It would explode every Lemmy server if they pulled in all communities from every other server all the time, even if nobody cared.

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You might also want to poke around the community browser, see if you can spot anything else you might want.

I'm fully expecting lemmy.ml to crash sometime in the next few days, too many people thinking developer run = main instance = join main instance, so it's a good idea to set up some links to other servers in advance, if any catch your eye.

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Hello from western Canada! I just wanted to pop in and say thank you for creating this instance - feels like a great place to start my Lemmy journey.

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Hey all, I'll be posting updates periodically about performance and server performance to provide everyone interested with some insights as to how many resources this instance is consuming.

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Thank you for creating this platform. I just created /c/imageai and made the first post, anyone and everyone is welcome. Already enjoying this more than reddit knowing their isn't some greedy handful of individuals controlling the backend. 😌

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sh.itjust.works

Hi all! Half Romanian, half English, all weird.

My previous accounts are @[email protected] (abandoned to alleviate server issues) and @[email protected] (I just thought the server name was cool, looks like it's somebody's abandoned solo instance with registration left on)

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TheDudereply
sh.itjust.works

Welcome! Definitely not abandoned but I agree we need to bring a little more life to the instance. We are open to suggestions by the community

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I sorted by local and was extremely confused. Then I looked at communities… really growing!

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sh.itjust.works

Thanks, @TheDude! Registered and up in no time. Comin' at ya from South Jersey, NJ, USA!

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manifexreply
sh.itjust.works

Looking forward to being part of a smaller, yet federated, community. Looks like this could be a lot of fun!

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sh.itjust.works

This is going to take a hot minute to federate the most popular communities isn't it? Any way we can help speed up the process?

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It is taking some time. I expect it to be fully synced up by the end of the day today. This instance has only been online for a few hours at this point. I'm curious to see if there's anything we can do to force a faster sync

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sh.itjust.works

I think it only federates with a community if someone from this server searches for it from this instance (I think, I'm brand new here). That way it doesn't federate with the entire Lemmyverse at once.

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TheDudereply
sh.itjust.works

Let's see how much this baby can handle. I can always get more servers! Here's the current HTOP results

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