Some Redditors say they're walking away after Apollo app shuts down
Apollo founder Christian Selig said he's "heartbroken" about pulling the plug on the third-party app following Reddit's API pricing changes.
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After Apollo’s API token was invalid, I deleted my account. I know it’s a minuscule drop in the ocean for Reddit, but not matter, I’m with Lemmy and the fediverse come what may.
Same. Can’t do much, but I think voting with our feet is the right thing to do.
It's pretty cozy here tbh, really liking it so far and it's way more busy than I was expecting.
Honestly I thought it would be tougher to switch. I know Reddit has a depth of content in niche communities and it’s tragic to lose that, but I’ve been delighted to find myself enjoying exploring a new system and all the weird and clever instances that are popping up.
I think this is also true for a lot of long term power-users of reddit. So, LOTS of drops in the ocean.
I can confirm. The drop wouldn't impact me until they drop
old.reddit.com, but I dropped Reddit because of moral reasons.I also deleted my account on Friday. Yea, we are just few drops, but enough drops have an impact.
I haven’t deleted my account, but I deleted every post and comment.
worth keeping your account on the off chance someone with a brain takes over and unfucks the place or you can find a good price to sell it to spammers.
I’ve also kept my account for the time being in case they want to revert any comments. Will be deleting in a few days.
Judging from the slowdowns and hiccups around here, yeah, I'd say that was "some". And we're not done yet either. Plenty of people in the world party on friday and saturday. Plenty of people in the US are camping or something on an extended weekend.
Everyone checks it eventually as the week rolls on though. Kinda fortunate for us, really. Spreads the influx out.
Do you know if there are usage stats posted somewhere? I would like to see how much people joins in the upcoming weeks.
There are a few different sites that keep track of it. I like the way https://fedidb.org/software/Lemmy presents the stats. The dip in users that they show though is from them removing a bunch of bot instances from their metrics.
I've seen a few stats posted throughout the day. Around 6hrs ago I saw just lemmy.world activity had risen 40% since yesterday.
I'm one of the new ones so I don't know where stats came from tho.
I was posting and encouraging Lemmy.world and wefwef like crazy until Apollo died.
Look at active number lists not total accts.
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I'm one that left after RiF got shut down. Lemmy.world just announced an increase of 20k new users over the weekend (about a 40% increase), so I'd say there's quite a few of us
I used Reddit for over a decade, and much of that was with Apollo. Not going back purely because of how they treated Christian and the other 3rd party devs
Good way of putting it. Their app was so horrible that I went from PAYING and using their app to moving to Apollo. I tried using it after they bought Blue Alien but it got worse and worse and finally I gave up paying and moved. Reddit died with third party useful apps.
Before the APIcalypse, I thought about quitting reddit. Now that my 3rd party app died, quitting has never been easier. I tried to check the site with a mobile browser, but I can’t collapse comments, so that ended up being a very quick visit.
Exactly my scenario. They really fucked the chicken up with the move to charge for API access.
It's amazing how history always finds a way of repeating itself. The ignorance to not acknowledge what happened to digg, and what sent so many to deadit is laughable. I would be very interested to see what traffic looks like now to reddit, and how much of it is coming from their app, which I think they said they will start charging a monthly subscription fee for. That CEO should have the cheese touch after that debacle.
Really a subscription for the basic tier app? That would be madness.
Of course it's madness now that they charge $50/year now for premium. It was paying the highest' tier of Apollo and it was $10/year and actually had features I wanted.
THEY ARE CHARGING FOR THE APP???
What alternate reality are they living in?
FFS. It doesn't even work half the time.
You'd think that knowing they were going to do this they'd have put some effort into making it work a bit better, but no.
Lmao a subscription to use the app
I used Apollo and I feel ya. I used to keep the default app installed so I could claim free gifts but it wasn't worth ending up in the official Reddit app on accident while browsing the web :P Yeah, it's that bad.
100% agree, hate to see it go down like that but they made their decisions
Hell yeah. 16 years here, and as part of some big happenings early on. (RIP I_RAPE_CATS)
Haven’t touched Reddit since Apollo died.
Yep, deleted mine yesterday. Their disdain for the mods that provide free labor and for the users in general with their lazy "they'll get over it" attitude was the deal breaker. Fuuuuuck Reddit.
Went straight from Apollo to wefwef. Smooth transition.
It's surprisingly good, for a project that started just 20 days ago. And I don't want to jinx it but the pace of development is quite good as well, they keep releasing updates every few hours or so.
Hardest part was remembering what subjects I was subscribed to and finding analogues here
Have you tried the “Migrate Apollo Export” option in the settings? Not perfect since of course lots of things don’t have one to one analogues, but it’s handy for going through your subs.
I uninstalled when it stopped working yesterday, and can’t log back in when reinstalling now since the API is dead. I can reference my subs on desktop if needed but it’s not bad to have a fresh start
Same here. So far so good.
Not as much activity as Reddit obviously, but I’m embracing it by seeking out the more active communities. I definitely fell into a rut on Reddit by only sticking to a handful of subs. This transition is forcing me to develop new interests, it’s great!
Agree. The more I play around and get comfortable with Lemmy the more I realize I don’t need to “grieve” the loss of Reddit
Same here. So far so good.
Not as much activity as Reddit obviously, but I’m embracing it by seeking out the more active communities. I definitely fell into a rut on Reddit by only sticking to a handful of subs. This transition is forcing me to develop new interests, it’s great!
Everyone keeps commenting on how federation feels “emptier” than Reddit, but honestly all I did after 15 or so years on Reddit is doom scroll. I just lurked and felt miserable. There IS less content here and because of that I visit for a shorter period of time and that FREEs me up to do other, more productive things with people I know outside of social media. After the past few weeks of learning about the tech and the why and how of the land I think I like the balance here.
Nine year redditor here; I never fell into the doomscrolling that so many others talk about, and I will miss Reddit, but something I've discovered is that while it's difficult to get a "toe hold" in the fediverse, once you do, there is way more content here than I ever knew about on Reddit.
Not saying that Reddit didn't have it, but rather that I never got curious enough to poke around beyond my main block of subs that I'd curated over that decade. There are entire domains here devoted to science or philosophy or retro gaming, and it really does look like they're vibrant and active. Finding them is the issue, which really is the big problem with the fediverse in the first place.
There really isn't a great cut-and-switch over to Lemmy that will make a redditor feel like nothing has changed, but the discovery process isn't too much different from Reddit, and I think people need to remember that their Reddit experience wasn't built in a day. My suggestion is to take a more curious approach rather than the "Reddit's dead, what's its identical replacement?" that I see, because there really isn't one and, even if there was, it'd be just as susceptible to the same disease that is currently killing Reddit (and Twitter).
I think this is great. It’s a new opportunity for all of us to define something new - whatever that means to each of us.
See, I have to agree with how it feels empty. I very carefully curated the subs I looked at on reddit. I was there for very specific news and discussion and memes about my various hobbies and interests all compiled into a single easy to access place. This does not fill my needs yet. But hopefully we can start filling that niche going forward.
That’s exactly my experience- Reddit was really my only social media for most of the last 5 years. I had everything I wanted in one place, and multireddits in Apollo kept it all running smoothly
Totally agree that I want more variety. As with any adventure only time will tell if this is worth it as far as a time investment.
Rather than simply look to Lemmy as a replacement, I've also been trying not just not need to look at a screen constantly.
Honestly, in addition to the doom scrolling, because there is less here at the moment, I feel like I can contribute more without feeling like I’m talking to an empty field after a festival. This place will grow, but hopefully it doesn’t turn out to be as Reddit is.
It feels like Lemmy has gotten significantly better over the last few days. I’m having to close out much less frequently
I haven't read more than a handful of books in the last decade; I'm sure it's because I got my reading fix on Reddit instead. I'm really curious how this will change in the future.
Stopped using Reddit on mobile for a while when they announced they were killing 3rd party apps. Replaced it with the Apple "Books" app, and I've gone through 2 books already. Highly recommend it lol
I’m the same way - I don’t read anymore. I have a BA in English. I should love reading. I am also in a career that involves a bunch of reading and writing, so I am also kinda burned out at the end of the day by stressful content; and Reddit did always have something fun and dumb to look at along with the doom. (Oh, can’t forget about the great Google search sourcing - I do miss that)
Yeah I agree. Of course it feels empty. But so did reddit. it's just a different kind of empty. At reddit it was like walking lonely halls that went on forever. Here, at least, it feels like there's only twenty-seven people all stuck on the face of a brand new habitable planet. It really feels like a fresh start, and it's up to us to make this place better for everyone.
Yep, smaller, but a tighter group of like-minded folks.
Crazy question, I’ve seen the phrase doom scroll a few times- I get the scroll, but not the doom? I feel like I’m missing something
Happy to explain! For me doom scrolling is the tendency to be attracted to the top trending posts of the last 24 hours on Reddit - specifically bad or triggering news. Perhaps for some people that would be news only about social movements or political policies that are frightening for them or their loved ones. Hence a sense of “doom” when scrolling through the feed. Another example might be posts related to Ukraine and Putin’s tactical nukes being moved to Belarus. It all depends on the individual but it’s usually triggering shit that you really don’t need to see more of …
That's an interesting take and would have been much harder to digest if I saw a comment like that on reddit. However, most of the things I was viewing were all doom and gloom with some exceptions.
I would start the day, looking at doom and gloom and wonder why my anxiety and stress seemed to coincide at the same time. 2 days now and I can clearly see how even scrolling through that stuff was bad for my mental health. I'm still interested in keeping an eye on news but not to that same level again. I kind of feel reset if that makes any sense. While I think the CEO is a dumbass for doing that, I think as time goes on, I might actually be thankful that it happened.
Either way, realizing now how the constant scrolling was a negative impact for me, and dipped my bucket every single morning, I am now aware and can try to learn from it.
I take it to mean people just scrolling and scrolling their life away, because they are addicted to see what else will appear next. A lot of social media tries to get this happening on purpose so people use their service more and more.
Never heard of that term, but making a blind guess... "doom scroll" is basically searching for world/daily tragedies and projecting one's insecurities towards such, i.e "HAHA that guy deserved to be trashed!... even more than I do."
I’m a part of that group. I see 24 people wish I’d kick rocks haha, I get it.
Look, I’m sure most of the refugees agree with me. If we don’t fit in we’ll leave.
So far I’m digging Lemmy. I wish it was more active, but if it’s gonna grow it will.
It broke my heart to leave Reddit after 15-16 years, but it’s not that same place any more any way.
So, hello fellow Apollo refugees.
Not being able to browse on mobile killed it for me. Most of my browsing was on mobile via Apollo. I refuse to get the official app after this stunt so now I’m just not using Reddit.
Luckily wefwef is making the transition easy and familiar.
I never used Apollo but I'm really liking wefwef.
This app has totally blown me away. I always considered PWAs a gimmick, but they’re kind of a “now it works” version of the original iPhone 3rd party apps concept
PWAs have been held back by Apple for a very long time so I'm glad that started to gain traction now.
Man, the astroturfing for wefwef around here is insane. I keep seeing it get brought up even in completely unrelated threads!
Apollo had a huge loyal customer base.
Wefwef provides an almost perfectly cloned UI and is a mere WebApp.
For this reason a lot of users are so impressed with it that they are evangelising it.
The big problem with it that it requires users to submit their login credentials, which is a bit of a security issue.
Unfortunately all apps are suffering that issue because Lemmy doesn't support OAuth2. It's one of the many things on the dev backlog, but hopefully it won't be too long.
Can you say more about the security issues?Asking for a technology dummy friend.
You need to supply the app with your username and password. The app could theoretically steal your credentials when you enter them in order to login. It’s a good reason to not reuse passwords.
Oof, I didn’t give this thought when I signed in. I luckily didn’t reuse my password here but that’s a great reminder, and good to know my exposure…
Also enable 2fa on your Lemmy account
After enrolling in TestFlight, I’ve tried mlem and Liftoff (which is what I’m replying to you on now). Wefwef is good but I’m hoping to use an actual app long term.
Neither are quite Apollo and I’m really hoping Christian throws his hat back in the ring but they’re solid experiences so long as Lemmy itself doesn’t run into issues.
Memmy on TestFlight is pretty solid
There's memmy and mlem and a couple more. They all are available via testflight.
I mean, maybe users are just excited about finding a place to land after the exodus, and an app that does feel very similar to Apollo.
I am using it based off seeing it mentioned a couple times and was very pleasantly surprised it’s similar to Apollo. Definitely makes the transition easier.
I used reddit is fun but it's the same story. Literally 15 years using that website daily.
Same deal, we both got fucked by Reddit.
What sucks is I’m sure you’d have paid to stay on RIF and I know I would have paid to stay on Apollo.
What a bummer that dickshit spez couldn’t see past his own nose.
Narwahl decided to try the subscription model. It should cost around 4-7 €/month. Unfortunately, I don’t think Reddit is that valuable to me, so I’ll just stick with Lemmy instead.
Pro Tip, list view has made this feel very much like RIF.
Pro Tip, list view has made this feel very much like RIF.
Same here, since 2017. I cannot recommend wefwef enough if you’re not already on it.
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Yep, I’m one of them. RIP Apollo.
Me too, after ten plus years. Nice to be here (:
hey, that’s me! I’m a redditor that walked away after Apollo shutdown!
Reddit is Fun user here... I had 15 years on reddit, I was part of their FCC filing in favor of Net Neutrality... I'm not going back.
It's not just about shutting down the apps, it's about the utter disdain they showed the communities and the users.
Rip RIF, you served us well all these years.
I'm sort of motivated by laziness. When RIF stopped working I thought oh well, guess I just use Lemmy on my phone.
When old.reddit stops working some day I do the same for the desktop. Reddit is literally driving me away. How badly can they fuck up? The modern reddit they are trying to push on us is not the reddit I signed up for 11 years ago.
But, but, it's the one they can monitize for their IPO! ;)
I'm the same, used RIF for 10 years and really miss it. I would love a Lemmy app that rivals how good RIF was.
Started with Jerboa on Android, it was fine, found wefwef and downloaded the app for that, it's just about perfect.
Reddit was becoming complete trash. The only thing that kept me was Apollo because it had an awesome feature where I could filter out all the keywords I didn’t want to see. Well, Apollo is now gone, so I’m done with Reddit and have started using lemmy.
I spent the last 3 years curating my feed by filtering the subs I didn’t want to see on r/all in Apollo. I can’t get that back and the front page is just garbage.
So yeah, I’m here now unless a better platform pops up.
I spent the last 3 years curating my feed by filtering the subs I didn’t want to see on r/all in Apollo. I can’t get that back and the front page is just garbage.
So yeah, I’m here now unless a better platform pops up.
I deleted my Reddit account. I almost exclusively browsed on mobile and I won't be caught dead using Reddit's useless official ap. Hi Lemmy.
I haven't willingly been back since the 12th. Shithead CEOs aren't going to profit off my contributions. If everyone did the same it would evaporate overnight
I don't know about everyone but I am the same
Same
Try wefwef.app my fellow ex-Apollo users
Using it right now, it’s like a warm blanket.
A warm blanket that feels familiar huh
Yep, using it right now. I honestly don’t even miss the other site anymore, though Apollo (and AlienBlue) will always have a place in my heart.
The other site that shall not be named lol
Jokes aside, it's Apollo and Boost for me
I stepped away from Reddit after Apollo shut down in part out of spite and to stand against the crap from Reddit but mostly because Apollo made Reddit usable.
The writing is on the wall. I don't want to boiled slowly like a frog. Merely tolerating the disrespect from the CEO of Reddit is not a long term solution. I bet old.reddit.com is next on the chopping block for sure. For me I just bit the bullet and decided to move away now than eventual future.
Yep, here I am! I refuse to use any of Reddit official shit.
I'm pissed at HOW they did it. Without an ounce of respect for the user base. They could have made it affordable and turned a profit out of 3rd party apps, they could have been more civil on the communications, they could have explained the problem and asked suggestions, even if they had no intentions on doing something else.
But they choosed a huge FU, not only to it's end users, but to people that were trying to make reddit a better place, either at barely a profit, or with volunteer work.
I’m gone, I blocked Reddit on my firewall, it’s inaccessible from my home network or any of my personal devices. I’ve also added uBlacklist to all my browsers to exclude them from search results.
As far as I’m concerned, that site no longer exists.
I’m not an Apollo user but still quit reddit because of the disgusting handling not only of third party app but also of the mods and users. Reddit isn’t deserving any of my time anymore. So far I’m enjoying lemmy and hope it stays free of corporate greed!
I deleted my 12 year 100k account at 11:59p Friday night. Had redact edit every old comment then delete them and closed the account. Some of my Google searches are still landing me over there. I don't even know what it would take to put me there permanently, again. I'm just hoping I can cultivate my experience here, enough, so that I won't have to find out.
I noticed googling my reddit username still showed links to posts I deleted with my name in the Google description. Clicking showed it was deleted content with no videos/images left.
I did power delete suite and replaced all my comments before deletion. I searched for my name and only one best of comment came up, the rest came up as lemmy comments.
I saw mine in Google but clicking into Reddit the comments were deleted. One of my posts from 9 years ago seems to still be up if I search by my name on Google but when I click it then my name is deleted as are my replies in the post.
It's probably just cached. If you want to get fancy maybe a DMCA takedown notice will get it removed?
Same, I used to be StripedNinja on Reddit. Still see a bunch of Rocket League, Microsoft Excel, Guitar, and Mandolin posts when I google it.
We should never go back no matter what. Imagine a world where email was centralized and theres was a monopoly company behind it and they started abusing their power. If the open email protocol came out and everyone switched to it, would you ever go back to the monopoly? Centralized monopolies always corrupt eventually. Any opportunity we have to distribute control, we should jump on it.
Same here.. i just quit cold turkey after ~15 years. I just tell myself I can do it again. I pinned the lemmy to my phone so it feels like RIF, just has less content. Thats why we are here though.
That's what I did too lol. The muscle memory of clicking the bottom left spot of my phone was crazy after a decade of RIF being in one spot the whole time.
The less content is something that will change the more we post.
I plan to find a community or make one that is about just random games that nobody mentions anymore. I found a new love for old Xbox 360 games that have been forgotten.
I bought the wallpapers to support Christian and had a really emotional evening.
When the blackout started I joined Lemmy and started to stop using Reddit to show my support by not producing any traffic.
On the last day I opened up apollo again and it was so terrifying, knowing the way I used Reddit for years will be gone. I used PDS but will wait with the deletion of my accounts to be safe that Reddit doesn’t restore my comments.
I still keep my fingers crossed that Christian will make an Apollo App for Lemmy, but I can totally understand the he got other things to do.
Just remember, he got called out from Spez and one of his income sources just disappeared because a business partner just wanted to fuck him up. I hope his friends and family will be there for him.
BTW: Made a little fan icon. Just for the dreams.
Have you tried wefwef? I’m also coming from Apollo and finding it very familiar :)
Yeah I did and currently I'm switching between wefwef and Memmy. I have to say that I'm positively shocked how fast those Apps developed in the last two weeks.
Maybe I would like to see the original Apollo App, because I used it for years and it's more about the emotional bonding.
I never used Apollo (I'm an Android user) but I tried wefwef for the first time today and I'm surprised at how natural it feels. If this is what Apollo was like I'm sad I didn't get a chance to experience it.
Same here I never really got into reddit until I found an app that I actually enjoyed browsing on…. Apollo
Is that what Apollo was like? I'm an android user, so never actually used Apollo. The sliding to vote, collapse, and reply is kinda neat (if perhaps not very obvious at first -- I saw a comment mention it, which is the main reason I even knew it was there).
As a native App it felt of course more smooth and everything was more polished. But the whole UI is exactly like Apollo, still missing some QOL features (like favorite communities).
There were a lot of features which you would never ask for in the beginning but when you're used to it, they are great. For example: You want to share some reddit content with friends who don't use reddit? Here, take the native video downloader and just share the video and not a link. Or you could share a thread/comment as a big vertical screenshot, so your friends could read it on their mobile device.
And being able to share as image with the title, for those images that needed context
Yes, very much. It had even a few more really useful tricks like press and hold on a comment and a menu would pop up to let you do different actions, like reply, quote, select text, save the comment or even translate it using google translate. It was really awesome, clean and intuitive.
Yeah this was exactly how Apollo worked. I went from Sync on Android to Apollo when I switched to iOS and love both
Yes, very much. It had even a few more really useful tricks like press and hold on a comment and a menu would pop up to let you do different actions, like reply, quote, select text, save the comment or even translate it using google translate. It was really awesome, clean and intuitive.
Yes, very much. It had even a few more really useful tricks like press and hold on a comment and a menu would pop up to let you do different actions, like reply, quote, select text, save the comment or even translate it using google translate. It was really awesome, clean and intuitive.
I wish I knew about wefwef sooner I don’t know how I can transfer my data from Apollo now
Seriously, wefwef has made the transition so easy for me with such a familiar interface.
I'm using mlem; it's in active development and the TestFlight beta has come a VERY long way in even just the week since I first installed it. It appears to be striving to be an Apollo clone. Still a long way to go but incredible progress, I'm excited to see what the next month will bring to the app!
Love the icon!
Yes, quite the odd feeling! On the bright side, I expect Christian probably made enough from app sales to not have to worry for many, many years.
That’s adorable!!!
Let's be realistic here, there's very little chance that a significant portion of users migrate out. It's cool. We don't have to obsess about our ex.
I know I am migrating!
same haha
I'm not sure if you're old enough to remember Digg, but they also alienated their users which caused users to migrate to Reddit.
https://d3.harvard.edu/platform-digit/submission/the-demise-of-digg-how-an-online-giant-lost-control-of-the-digital-crowd/
Apollo shutting down forced me to confront my Reddit addiction. I used Reddit to escape my life. Even if it was just 5 minutes to take a break from work, or remove myself from reality to avoid anxiety or boredom. It became a crutch and an addiction. Instead of focusing on trying to change the moment or situation I’d escape instead.
It’s a lazy crutch to give yourself dopamine when in reality we all should be focusing on self improvement. Delayed gratification instead of immediate release. It sucks the various communities will die but at least my health can improve.
Apollo for Lemmy when?
After 12 years, I walked away. No Apollo, no Reddit. I like it here just fine.
Did you try wefwef? It’s pretty much has the same interface as Apollo
I’ve been reading about it today. I’m going to give it a go. Thank you!
Just started using it a few mins ago, its awesome! Better than Lemmy I think. I had to use my browsers 'install app' option to get the cloud app on the phone.
Just loaded it up myself. I am pleasantly surprised how easy it is to use and looks and acts like Apollo. Wef wef just made this transition infinitely better.
I stopped using reddit the second Apollo stopped working, and I don't think I've truly missed it once since then, I'm optimistic things will get far better with time as more people join lemmy.
I do not understand how there is no mention of the fediverse.
Do the owners of business insider benefit from open, decentralized social media?
This seems weird to me, especially when I checked on Reddit...
As soon as Apollo stopped working, i deleted it and moved Memmy to Apollo’s spot. I will miss it and enjoyed the developers work on it but I’m done with Reddit unless my troubleshooting work points me there.
Normally I would get my news from Reddit but I have Apple News and that works fine for now while Lemmy ramps up.
Sync user here. I've walked away.. Waiting on SyncForLemmy.
Christian would be wise to start a Lemmy app. He would have a huge following right out the gate.
I genuinely wonder how much that takes in. I don’t like it since it’s subscription based and it doesn’t need to be. One time pay? Maybe.
So he’s gotta be pulling in a decent salary from an Apples Dynamic Island?
It feels like his client would need minor tweaking to get to be compatible with Lemmy and I’d pay a subscription to use it.
You probably already know about wefwef.app but I'm going to mention it here for anyone reading. It's cross-platform and already shockingly close to feeling like Apollo
Ive mentioned wefwef a few times. Great Apollo clone — I just do not like web apps.
I think he’s done relying on API beyond his control. Understandable. As federated and open as lemmy / kbin is right now, there is still a chance for a large company built a tiny wall around it. Like gmail has done with email.
Yup, that's me. I'm still a little surprised at how easy (thanks Spez) it actually was for being such a heavy consumer of Reddit. Doing Christian wrong like that, as well as the many popular 3rd party apps and their loyal users, just didn't sit right with me. Spez chose the nuclear option, instead of actually working with and potentially helping to grow the site along with 3rd party devs, so this is the resulting fallout. He asked for it, so he got it.
I’m one of them! Loving wefwef so far
Yupp. I jumped ship at approx 2 pm on Friday. Was a sad sad moment when Apollo stopped working :(
I’ll still have a look every now and then on the pc with RES. But 95% of my Reddit time was on Apollo. Inreallly enjoyed alien blue before that, so it’s a mystery how they managed to fuckup that once they bought it
Apollo refugee here. Can confirm.
I quit when rif went down. I've never used an official app, desktop site, mobile site etc. Rif was Reddit to me for 10 years. Maybe leaving as a collective will make some difference, maybe not, but I'm going to start being more firm on how much I'll let companies try to push me around expecting me to just take it. They built it on our backs, then just took it away so a literal select few can cash in, when they are already filthy rich and had other options.
I've been explaining it to others as if you broke your phone. Now it's frustrating getting used to a new phone, but it has lots of new features you never even thought of that make up for the inconveniences. Sure I could go back to my old phone, it's comfortable to use, but the screen is broken and it cuts me now and again, and over time it'll cut me more often. I'd rather get used to the new phone.
This past year I've dealt with food going up, gas, utilities, rent, hell cigarettes and even beer, my fishing license went up. Every single nook and cranny they can pull a cent from you they will.
I'm done choosing to let them. If they want my data, my attention, my content, they can pull it from my cold dead hands damnit.
Ok weird ass Braveheart speech over and out.
To me, Apollo WAS Reddit. Period. When Apollo shut down, Reddit shut down.
Same, but with Bacon Reader. Wonder how that IPO is going to go now?
It's so rare that I see anyone talk about Bacon Reader anywhere but that was the only app I liked. It was so minimal but still felt like it had everything I needed.
On the bright side, Reddit valuation has dropped from $10 billion to $5.5 billion in two years...so there's that.
Once Bacon Reader died, I stopped. It's sad. I was subbed to a lot of fun and interesting subreddits. But fuck spez, that greedy little pig boy. Lemmy seems like reddit lite for the moment, but I'm sure it will grow.
used to use reddit sync.. deleted my reddit account now. shame, it was a really active site, but this is a good equivalent and it won't get spezzed or eloned. I can just move server if I feel like it.
I’ve always preferred mobile sites to apps. Not sure why. Maybe I just like to use Safari to manage all that I’m checking out.
But I stand with developers. Even Balmer knew developers are a major key to success. I’m not interested in using a site with such hostile ownership.
Fuck spez.
Before Reddit shutdown the apis I used a tool that deleted my entire history. I think this move on Reddit's part is just the beginning, very similar to Twitter. Honestly any platform that gets to large tends to forget itself.
I'm currently in the process of doing that... sort of.
I'm using https://redact.dev/ which gives the option of editing all of the comments to replace it with random text. I think I'm not going to delete my comments and instead leave them as random just to fuck up any future AI data mining. Scorched Earth :P
It's over a decade of comments and posts, across three different accounts so the process is taking all day. Kinda weird seeing comments from 10 years ago stream by as they're being randomized.
I ran this in my account the other day in preview but didn’t pull the trigger since I was waiting for Apollo to die. Now when redact asks me to log into my Reddit account, I do and give it permission, and all it does is open Reddit chat. I can’t figure out what’s different or why it won’t do anything else. Using the same iMac.
Mod for a medium-sized city subreddit, here. I have absolutely no idea how I'm going to be able to keep modding for it, now that apps like Apollo and RIF are dead. It is functionally impossible to mod effectively with the official app (let alone the mobile site).
I'm not quite ready to just abandon the city community I spent so much time assisting - I mean, they're my friends and neighbors, not just my subreddit subscribers. But if they move to Lenny en masse, I'll join them, and say goodbye to Reddit permanently.
Why not get ahead of the curve and start moderating/start a community here already?
The positivity and enthusiasm on lemmy is so refreshing and each community is growing quickly. It’s like the days of Reddit when it was young.
There's already a Lemmy community for the city, and I'm watching it closely to see if it takes off. So far, the signs are good, but the Reddit community is still a lot more active.
Maybe that will change as uses realize we simply can't effectively moderate it anymore.
I would love to start a community for my city here but I honestly can’t figure out how the syntax works to start one. Every time I try to create one I get an error.
When did you try? The devs are stamping out bugs as fast as they can. Maybe you ran into one (or several). If you hit the "Create Community" link at the top, you can build one.
I miss r/Cricket with the massive community of Indian Redditors, they are so funny and quick witted, so it was a quiet one this week in the small Cricket sub (or whatever you call it). But glad to get the ball rolling with Lemmy.
I mean let's be real: Anyone with a fraction of self-respect would walk away from this dumpster fire after being repeatedly called noise by the idiots running the website.
But on the other hand I have to admit that Spez was completely right. This did blow over rather nicely for Reddit, since any publicity is good publicity and it seems like most of it is business as usual minus actually good apps.
We'll have to see what the long-term looks like. This was never going to be an instant death for reddit, but it absolutely could be the beginning of a slow decline into irrelevance. Digg never went offline, it just became useless
I hope so, but I somehow doubt it. Reddit has so many casual users who were never even aware of the existence of third party apps and consider the protests to be "pointless".
Agreed, but those users probably never contributed much. I would argue the users who bothered to seek out a third party app were more engaged and active. So those are the people who are now leaving, which may hurt Reddit disproportionately.
Well I just stopped going to reddit. The only way O used reddit was apollo. I put lemmy icon on the aplllo place cos I kept unconsciously clicking it even though I knew it wont work.
I’m a part of that group. I see 24 people wish I’d kick rocks haha, I get it.
Look, I’m sure most of the refugees agree with me. If we don’t fit in we’ll leave.
So far I’m digging Lemmy. I wish it was more active, but if it’s gonna grow it will.
It broke my heart to leave Reddit after 15-16 years, but it’s not that same place any more any way.
So, hello fellow Apollo refugees.
I knew it was getting bad nearly a year ago when they permanently banned my 12-year-old account for "threatening violence." When I warned someone else that their rhetoric could be understood as such.
They and their friends went on a mass reporting spree and it took a month to get the ban overturned.
I deleted my Reddit account right after I noticed Apollo stopped working. Mastodon and Kbin are filling the void nicely and I find I don't miss Reddit at all.
Agree. The more I play around and get comfortable with Lemmy the more I realize I don’t need to “grieve” the loss of Reddit
I havent gone back since I've made my account. I've blocked reddit.com at the DNS level on my network and I'm avoiding the platform. I like the updates about the situation here but Honestly it would be amazing if they could mirror posts instead of link the original source since half of the posts just expect you to visit the r/sub it happened in which I refuse to do.
Now we wait for them to kill old.reddit and Reddit will finally be the low-energy TikTok clone Spez wants it to be.
Another former Redditor that walked away as soon as Apollo stopped working. I will never look back!
Well, i walked away once my BaconReader stopped working. I wasnt going to use the Reddit app, or even get into the habit because it isn't that good.
Have you found something near as good as bacon reader? The OSS app for android keeps crashing or exiting on normal actions.
I've been using Jerboa. It works for the most part, but I think there are a few missing things. I am not sure if this feature is a Lemmy feature or app, but when I submit a link, sometimes I don't want comments to go to my inbox.
Wefwef is a PWA that I feel works better that Jerboa. It has an iOS look to it, so it looks off on Android. I'll eventually migrate to Sync / Boost when they come out, but wefwef is good enough for now.
Down with reddit. Such a self inflicted wound.
Reddit right now
Reddit right now
I was on Sync for Reddit on andrioid. Today I officially deleted my reddit account. The reason given "u/spez"...
Lemmy is my home now
I'm still reading /r/boxoffice (on desktop using old.reddit) so that I can follow the Summer of Flops, but that's about it. If a community exists and is reasonably active on both Reddit and Lemmy/kbin, I won't touch the Reddit version.
I know nothing about movies really but maybe you should try and start a /c/boxoffice here! We need to recreate the communities somehow
There already is one. It just doesn't get much traffic.
I'm not planning on following box office stuff once things get back to normal, anyway, but there's been some nice schadenfreude seeing the big studios lose money.
I left. Haven’t been back to Reddit since Apollo died.
Trying to make that my experience.
Declined my refund, deleted my Reddit history, now testing like 5 Lemmy clients on iOS, and I’ve only returned to the awful official app to check in on extremely niche subreddits that don’t have a community here yet.
I’ve eliminated my Reddit doomscrolling entirely which I’m happy about.
Also the Lemmy client testing is a lot of fun - it’s almost like Wild West Internet again - especially with a lot of the community just beginning to discuss moderation and administration and the emergent opinions forming. Lots of weird, cool sociology at play rn.
Indeed a very strange feeling. I only opened it to confirm Sync really is no longer working. Will keep my account for now (nostalgia?) but have not been browsing reddit since roughly a week. Feels good. But I'm sure official numbers are going to say "Engagement higher than ever at reddit".
Fuck Reddit. I already replaced the bookmark.
I’m a part of that group. I see 24 people wish I’d kick rocks haha, I get it.
Look, I’m sure most of the refugees agree with me. If we don’t fit in we’ll leave.
So far I’m digging Lemmy. I wish it was more active, but if it’s gonna grow it will.
It broke my heart to leave Reddit after 15-16 years, but it’s not that same place any more any way.
So, hello fellow Apollo refugees.
Is there a good ios app for lemmy?
Wefwef is a browser app exactly like Apollo. You can find it on github
I’m using liftoff and like it so far. It’s not official yet, but you can try it out using Test Flight on iOS
Look up wefwef.
I’m using that and Memmy at the moment.
The nexus poster on Twitter are often technically inept (journos, real life famous people, etc.). Therefore I understand the migration to Mastodon and such going slowly. But I have high hopes for the likes of federated Reddit-alternatives, since Reddit’s audience is a much more technical crowd. The only fear I have is the FOSS community’s infamous infighting over non-issues. As long as things like Lemmy or kbin are federating, this is probably a non-issue, but as soon as two or more of the major players get hung up on something irrelevant and cannot reconcile, the party is over as soon as it began.
I’m a part of that group. I see 24 people wish I’d kick rocks haha, I get it.
Look, I’m sure most of the refugees agree with me. If we don’t fit in we’ll leave.
So far I’m digging Lemmy. I wish it was more active, but if it’s gonna grow it will.
It broke my heart to leave Reddit after 15-16 years, but it’s not that same place any more any way.
So, hello fellow Apollo refugees.
https://imgur.com/a/SqpkQUO
I got a Reddit notification for this post while browsing this post. Time to turn off notifications!
Speaking of notifications, that menu used to be just for comment responses. Nowadays Reddit is using it to push me some “popular” posts I couldn’t care less about.
Same here. I had every notifications toggle switched off but direct messages and I still kept getting “recommended” posts. It’s basically malware at that point lol.
With the 3rd party apps I didn’t get exposed to any of this garbage, but now that I have to use the browser, I can’t avoid the tsunami of anti-user features. Quitting Reddit has never been easier.
I'm done with Reddit. To me it's kinda a dead site except for the occasional old post I'll look at for info with uBlock Origin in Firefox.
Nobody is mentioning the obvious answer to the seemingly stupid decisions of Spez and Musk. They're tanking the primary platforms for leftist discourse online. Rest assured, they are being compensated.
Serves them right, I have been using Apollo for so long, it was even one of the few apps I paid for and now reddit just wanted to shut it down, for me reddit is dead and I am glad to see that Lemmy is getting new users pretty fast
I’m here too having signed up this morning. I am still hoping for a good iOS mobile experience. Either way I’m here for the long run. I’m done with Reddit.
Try wefwef.app
Most appreciated mate, it looks great on my iPad!
An iOS app (Mlem) is currently under development. If you want to be an early adopter, you can test it already. I guess it will be available in the app store sooner or later.
Have Memmy closed their beta testing sign up now? I’ve been testing Mlem and Memmy for a couple of weeks and wefwef for a few days. Memmy is streaks ahead of the other two right now. I can’t see myself choosing Mlem over Memmy ever. Wefwef has potential but has understandably been buggy as hell. I’m looking forward to Artemis but it’s invite only beta testing at the moment.
I don’t know about their current state, other than that those apps aren’t currently available in the app store. I don’t feel like being a beta tester, so I’ll just wait until the official release date . For the time being, browsing Lemmy with Safari has been good enough. I mean, it’s way better than Reddit, so I’m not complaining at all. Some people said that they would use Reddit on a mobile browser. I tried that a few times and it was just garbage in so many ways. Lemmy, on the other hand, is perfectly fine even on a browser.
The Memmy TestFlight is closed. I signed up with Thunder and it’s very solid
Good to know. I tried tonnes of Reddit apps before settling on blue sky and then Apollo so I imagine I’ll try pretty much everything that comes out for iOS before I settle on one. It’s an exciting time.
It’s the only reason I’m here checking out how this works.
The official app sucks and so does the mobile site.
I deleted my 11 year old account today, don't want to be a part of that community anymore.
Not long made the switch and so far I'm liking it. Subscribing to remote communities is more complicated than I think it needs to be but, meh, you only do it once. Fingers crossed it keeps growing, Reddit was fun for a good while but it's been heading downhill fast recently.
I used the mobile app for reddit while falling asleep and that was 99% of my interaction with the site unless it popped up from a google search while on the PC. I'll still use it for that probably, but no way I am using that dumpster fire of an app. Mobile use died with apollo for me
I deleted my 11 year old account today, don't want to be a part of that community anymore.
I’m certainly walking away for the most part, hopefully lemmy can become my daily scroller. That said though, I’ll definitely get on reddit again at some point. Its just too useful of a resource to never touch again. If I need some question answered and only reddit has it, I’m not gonna pass on it just to make a point that primarily hurts me. Other than that though, my primary reddit usage died with Apollo
If I didn't have a subreddit to moderate, I would walk away now that I can't use apollo.
Reddit directly inspired the creation of the instance I'm on with that shitshow.
I did have a sub to moderate. Not a massive community, only about 2.5K but I have no interest in staying a part of a website whose actions I find so shitty.
I closed my account last night.
I used Now for Reddit for years. Was a great app. Somehow it's still working. Must not be big enough for Reddit to kill.
Same with Joey
deleted my account on Sunday. never going back.
I am one of them, except I walked away weeks ago after the lies etc.
After BaconReader shut down, my reddit usage plummeted to near 0. Only used it the last few days to Google interview questions from my desktop.
Switch to lemmy and wefwef :)
Dumb question. I've been off reddit and here for about a month. Today 7-2 I opened my boost app and infinity app and noticed new posts. I thought all the api apps were shutting down 6-30?
Infinity's dev said the app would still be usable for sometimes until a new update pass it into a subscription plan.
Thank you for your reply. So infinity will continue to support reddit until further notice?
This is the official statement
Thank you. I haven't been on there for a month I was just curious. Am using wefwef now and love it. I hope to see the Lemmy community grow so there is more to enjoy like Reddit has been for the last 10 years for me. I'm going to miss it as a resource but I'll be ok. Happy 4th.
You're welcome ! Been on reddit for like 6 or 7 years maybe ? But just a big lurkers, I find Lemmy and smaller instance a good opportunity to invest yourself more in the community as there isn't a lot of users (for now). Happy 4th too !
Done with Reddit. Lemmy is the way
"Some"??
Including me
I have, for now at least. Reddit is a hard habbit to break, and maybe lemmy is just feeding that same habbit but it's an interesting time.
In a way, I feel more free now - had an 11 year old reddit account and used Alien blue, then Apollo. I got so stagnant in consuming media that I ended up not contributing since everything I would’ve said had already been posted. But seeing the smaller growing communities across Lemmy makes me excited to actually contribute
That’s what I dig. Deleted my reddit account and now am either on here onSquabbles. Fuck reddit
Good for them, and I am one of them :3
I couldn’t get use to Narwal and the official app wasn’t it. The ads weren’t as bad as the subreddits it kept recommending. It was too cluttered. Also I wasn’t aware how many things were Apollo only. Gif scrubbing seems like such a common sense thing.
Been on reddit for nearly 8 years (baconreader only), tragic really but it's been pushed into a direction I don't want to be involved with. Did the same with Facebook and haven't been back.
It'll go the same way other platforms have done before. Acting like they are irreplaceable when they are anything but.
Looking forward to being here and contributing to a growing community, get a good felling about here!
Reddit? Now here's a blast from the past! Is that thing still around? I've not been there since Sync died.
I haven't willingly been back since the 12th. Shithead CEOs aren't going to profit off my contributions. If everyone did the same it would evaporate overnight
Left as soon as Slide stopped working.
Yes, "some." I dumped that shit like a bad habit when Sync died, and I'm far from the only one. Reddit has gone from Apollo to appal_ling_.
To me third party apps is what made Reddit special. Now Reddit is just another social media platform, so I’m staying far away.
I’m enjoying pixel pals though, and I recommend others give it a go too
I did. I now only go there with adblock turned on for google search results. Hopefully this place develops niche pages like r/California and r/TeslaMotors soon though.
This is not news. Please don't post these 'extremely slow news cycle' shit articles. Everyone who is here already knows this and has had it repeated to them ad absurdum.
This article is about as informative as 'Ted Cruz is a bad candidate' 'Random people are mad at rich folks' or 'water is wet'
This was me but with Boost, loved that app.
Yep, I'm also one of those. I love Apollo, think the reddit-app sucks and also /u/spez is a dick.
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Deleted my account and deleted some of the content I had on there. I didn’t have a big account anyway and mainly lurked.
BI is missing all the other 3rd party apps that users have left too.
I’m one of those
Yup, tried the official app for 1 hour, gave up
There is no Reddit without Apollo for me. I can't stand the changes Reddit has made over the years, so I'm fine to leave.
Same. Ill be honest I tried to use reddit on my laptop and even old.reddit is just not as good as apollo was. I hope the fediverse can get app support like that in the future
Same here. Once Apollo stopped I stopped going. During the last month I was bookmarking the sites I was reading stories from that was being posted on Reddit. So now I go straight to the source.
I was a BaconReader user, but yeah when they took that away, that was the final straw for me. I can get my doom scrolling fix anywhere, thank you.
Hello, yes, I am one of these users. May Reddit die the slow death of Digg.
I ran a crack on Apollo, so I'm still using it for now, but I will never use Reddit in a way that gives them ad revenue.
Why is it always Apollo? There were tons of amazing third party apps. This was just another one that seems to be iphone exclusive, which who cares about iOS anyways.
Us 3rd party refugees are all family, brother, no need to be divisive.
Apollo was so perfectly made that going back to regular reddit is just impossible, at least for a lot of us. Wefwef is blowing my mind, it's like Apollo never died
It's not really about Apollo specifically. Or people refusing to use a Reddit without the Apollo app
Reddit is the site it is because of third-party assistance. The communities were all built and have been maintained for free by volunteer moderators for almost 20 years. Developers liked Reddit and contributed apps that made it useful. Reddit is fun, Automoderator, moderator toolkit, apollo, praw, etc etc. Imgur was created so that people could post images to Reddit and easily link them.
I quit reddit because of the company's two-faced approach to the people who have done the most work to make this site successful. The shitty behavior is nothing new, but I think that openly telling third-party developers and moderators to go fuck themselves was just a breaking point for a lot of people.
There seems to be quite a fan club. I used RIF and Boost. All apps except the official were good.
Whether you were an Apollo person or RIF or Baconreader or Boost, spez told us to go fuck ourselves and we left and we are now family forever.
Because it was a great app and the dev was one of the real ones. I personally don't care one bit which OS you're using and hope your experience here is a good one.