This is confusing. I'm already using the iSeven API to determine if a number is 7. I'm getting a namespace collision error when I try to load this new API. Bug report filed.
Back when I was learning programming a lot of lessons would make you do something like this, and then show you the real way to do it in the next lesson. My reaction was always "why didn't you lead with this?".
Because the point of the lesson is to demonstrate that you can solve the same problem multiple ways where some paths are more efficient than others.
Bad programmers are the ones that find the first solution and implement it no matter how inefficient it is.
Good programmers spend time on figuring out the solution with the least amount broken or inefficient code. You don’t learn this by jumping straight to the best answer every time.
My solution in perl back in the day when I was a teenage hobbyist who didn't know about the modulus operator: Divide by 2 and use regex to check for a decimal point.
You know, I was going to let this slide under the notion that we're just ignoring the limited precision of floating point numbers... But then I thought about it and it's probably not right even if you were computing with real numbers! The decimal representation of real numbers isn't unique, so this could tell me that "2 = 1.9999..." is odd. Maybe your string coercion is guaranteed to return the finite decimal representation, but I think that would be undecidable.
Ackchyually-- IEEE 754 guarantees any integer with absolute value less than 2^24 to be exactly representable as a single precision float. So, the "divide by 2, check for decimals" should be safe as long as the origin of the number being checked is somewhat reasonable.
The decimal representation of real numbers isn’t unique, so this could tell me that “2 = 1.9999…” is odd.
I don't think your belief holds water. By definition an even number, once divided by 2, maps to an integer. In binary representations, this is equivalent to a right shift. You do not get a rounding error or decimal parts.
“1.99999…” is an integer, though! If you’re computing with arbitrary real numbers and serializing it to a string, how do you know to print “2” instead of “1.9999…”? This shouldn’t be decidable, naively if you have a program that prints “1.” and then repeatedly runs a step of an arbitrary Turing machine and then prints “9” if it did not terminate and stops printing otherwise, determining if the number being printed would be equal to 2 would solve the halting problem.
Arbitrary precision real numbers are not represented by finite binary integers. Also a right shift on a normal binary integer cannot tell you if the number is even. A right shift is only division by 2 on even numbers, otherwise it’s division by 2 rounded down to the nearest integer. But if you have a binary integer and you want to know if it’s even you can just check the least significant bit.
#You are an input. You have value! You matter!
if number % 2 == 0
return "number is even" (is_num_even = 1 or true)
else
return "number is odd" (is_num_even = 0 or false)
I would love it if someone edited this example and posted it with two statements near the end that are reversed, implying inconsistent behaviour at random in the list ahead, seemingly making this solution less inefficient.
You joke, but I've seen a programming language that didn't have a loop, and if you copied a line of text and pasted it in a text editor, JSON would come out...
The editor could barely handle 400+ lines because it probably converted the text to JSON, added a letter and converted it back to JSON... Per inserted symbol...
You could do this in one line...
By removing all the linebreaks.
i think it should one giant ternary expression composition
I love this thread 🫠
Of course there's an easier way. Just integrate the state of the art API dedicated for this exact problem. https://isevenapi.xyz/
This is confusing. I'm already using the iSeven API to determine if a number is 7. I'm getting a namespace collision error when I try to load this new API. Bug report filed.
Back when I was learning programming a lot of lessons would make you do something like this, and then show you the real way to do it in the next lesson. My reaction was always "why didn't you lead with this?".
You must see the pain before you confront it.
Because the point of the lesson is to demonstrate that you can solve the same problem multiple ways where some paths are more efficient than others.
Bad programmers are the ones that find the first solution and implement it no matter how inefficient it is.
Good programmers spend time on figuring out the solution with the least amount broken or inefficient code. You don’t learn this by jumping straight to the best answer every time.
My solution in perl back in the day when I was a teenage hobbyist who didn't know about the modulus operator: Divide by 2 and use regex to check for a decimal point.
if ($num / 2 =~ /\./) { return "odd" }
else { return "even" }
I mean, it ain't wrong.
You know, I was going to let this slide under the notion that we're just ignoring the limited precision of floating point numbers... But then I thought about it and it's probably not right even if you were computing with real numbers! The decimal representation of real numbers isn't unique, so this could tell me that "2 = 1.9999..." is odd. Maybe your string coercion is guaranteed to return the finite decimal representation, but I think that would be undecidable.
Ackchyually-- IEEE 754 guarantees any integer with absolute value less than 2^24 to be exactly representable as a single precision float. So, the "divide by 2, check for decimals" should be safe as long as the origin of the number being checked is somewhat reasonable.
Of course, but it's somewhat nasty when all of a sudden
is_evendoesn't do what you expect :).I don't think your belief holds water. By definition an even number, once divided by 2, maps to an integer. In binary representations, this is equivalent to a right shift. You do not get a rounding error or decimal parts.
But this is nitpicking a tongue-in-cheek comment.
“1.99999…” is an integer, though! If you’re computing with arbitrary real numbers and serializing it to a string, how do you know to print “2” instead of “1.9999…”? This shouldn’t be decidable, naively if you have a program that prints “1.” and then repeatedly runs a step of an arbitrary Turing machine and then prints “9” if it did not terminate and stops printing otherwise, determining if the number being printed would be equal to 2 would solve the halting problem.
Arbitrary precision real numbers are not represented by finite binary integers. Also a right shift on a normal binary integer cannot tell you if the number is even. A right shift is only division by 2 on even numbers, otherwise it’s division by 2 rounded down to the nearest integer. But if you have a binary integer and you want to know if it’s even you can just check the least significant bit.
Python added match/case?! Bunch of mypy issues have been closed too. Maybe its time to dust off some old projects.
It was added in 3.10 and is surprisingly complete. The tutorial pep is a good starting point to see what it can accomplish
Well... At least it's tail recursive.
modulo
pseudocode:
plus you'd want an input validation beforehand
who needs modulo when you can get less characters out of
very efficient
edit: or theres the trusty iseven api
here is somewhat less:
return (number % 2) == 0;return !(number & 1);This is the way. Modulo takes too long to compute, bitwise compare should be a lot faster.
oh shit yo
this comment chain is pretty awesome, I learned a lot from this thanks!
are the negative numbers all even?
🤦
Am I doing it right? /S.
Don't put nbsps in code blocks, they show up literally.
Name doesn't check out.
This code is terrible. If you input 10.66 it returns "number is odd
It should be:
there is!
This could be optimized by using a recursive function.
This could be made more servicavle by using a switch case
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I would replace each if/else with a while.
...btw a switch statement is better in this case(get it?)
I would love it if someone edited this example and posted it with two statements near the end that are reversed, implying inconsistent behaviour at random in the list ahead, seemingly making this solution less inefficient.
You joke, but I've seen a programming language that didn't have a loop, and if you copied a line of text and pasted it in a text editor, JSON would come out...
The editor could barely handle 400+ lines because it probably converted the text to JSON, added a letter and converted it back to JSON... Per inserted symbol...
Modulo
print(theJoke % you);I'm more of a Gemini myself