Spyke
sh.itjust.works

Cops protect private property, so if the zeitgeist shifts so that fundamentalists with their giant trump crosses are bringing down property values, then yeah, the cops will come hassle them.

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lemm.ee

The issue here is that they think "The Bible is the word of God and i believe what it says" and "I hate gay people and wish they would all die" mean the same thing.

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Anticorpreply
lemmy.world

It does not

36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

Matthew 22:36-40

If the second greatest commandment is to love your neighbor as yourself, then hate has no place in Christianity.

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kbin.social

Basically, almost all the hateful stuff comes from the old testament, which Jesus went, "That's invalid now"

Really, it would be a lovely religion without all the people

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aussie.zone

But, did he?

Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill.

I've often seen that as a response, when someone claims that Jesus wiped the shitty Old T nonsense away.

That's the trouble with the bible, it's a book written by a bunch of men with competing interests over thousands of years ago, and honestly could have used a team of diligent editors, but has been held up as the infallible word of some dude sitting in the clouds.

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Anticorpreply
lemmy.world

Fulfill it, as in complete it. It's done. With his sacrifice he formed a new covenant. He goes on to say that anyone who wants to follow any part of the law of Moses must follow the whole law of Moses*. That means that anyone judging someone for old testament laws is a sinner themselves for eating pork or shrimp, for wearing clothing of mixed fabrics, and 611 other laws that are quite difficult to follow in a modern world.

*Galatians 5:4

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Thanks for the clarification!

It is an old, confusing patchwork quilt of a book and much of it open to interpretation - with many picking and choosing.

I just don't worry about that and instead try to abide by one rule - do unto others. Be excellent to everyone. Seems to serve me fairly well.

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kbin.social

I think the proper terminology would be "apostate", but you are correct. There is no hatred of any kind in legitimate Christian beliefs. It is the political far-right who improperly conflate their strongly held bigotry with their Christian affiliation.

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Windex007reply
lemmy.world

At the risk of sounding like I'm talking about True Scotsmen, your religion is not Christianity if you don't follow the teaching of Jesus the Christ.

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"If one comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple." - Luke 14:26

"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword" - Matthew 10:34

It's almost like it's all made up bullshit and you can make it say anything you want 🤔

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When the bible is the one saying gay people should die, it kinda does.

The saving grace is that most people who say that don't actually mean it, as they either haven't really read it, or have made enough mental gymnastics to ignore the stuff they don't agree with.

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It isn't your belief in a god that is considered hate speech, it is you trying to implement your religious views into laws that is the problem.

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Well it was illegal to believe in gods back in the middle ages unless it was the biblical god.

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otp
sh.itjust.works

Isn't it illegal to believe in God in some parts of the world?

And it's illegal to NOT believe in God in other parts.

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520reply
kbin.social

In what countries is it illegal to believe in God?

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otpreply
sh.itjust.works

Off the top of my head, I want to say North Korea. It might be the only country.

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Hm, it looks like that's not true. China even officially recognizes Catholicism

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Not exactly. I feel like I can make some pretty accurate predictions about somebody who says that to me, although I would respond differently to them.

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Well if you believe the word of god outright and the word of god says kill all gays, maybe it is hate speech, acolyte.

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See it's never the whole story, in reality it would be more like

The bible is the word of God and I believe what it says [which is
is why I locked my child in the basement for kissing out of wedlock
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hilarious considering the popularity of carter who was very religious. might have something to do with actually following the morality of it.

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These people are just saying out loud that their racism is part of their religion.

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This is a real possibility; any view can become illegal if we do not value freedom of speech. There are examples all over the world and throughout time.

The United States is not special, it can happen here.

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lemm.ee

Religion is like a sign that says 'maladapted' and luckily it's legible from miles away.

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Remind me again what percentage of Christians are in the US Congress, White House & Supreme Court?

Maybe that is the problem.

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