You can drop a bomb in the middle of a crowd of people and still claim to not have been targeting the people, they were just there. Doesn't really change the evilness of the action one way or the other.

Got it, all those people in the refugee camps weren't civilians.

I guess anything to justify mass murder...

Bombing promised safe routes and locations is totally not targeting civilians. Just ignore the mountain of bodies. Even if Hamas was sneaking out of them, you promised they'd be safe. The civilians had no other choice.

True, they're not targeting civilians. They're just killing everyone indiscriminately. Hell, they've even killed Israelis.

Is there any evidence they are making any effort to avoid or reduce civilian deaths?

All those journalists dying in their beds at night aren’t targeted eh? Seems legit.

Just like there no evidence police deliberately use excessive force. It’s just standard procedure, nothing personal.

For sake of argument, suppose they earnestly believe this. I can think of a scenario consistent with that belief: that they also believe there are no civilians in the region, and that everyone present is Hamas.

That's not better than killing thousands of civilians UNINTENTIONALLY.

It seems more like a wanton disregard for civilian casualties. Blowing up entire apartment towers because they believe one or more people there were valid targets is unacceptable but not technically targeting civilians.

And we're going to belive the fucking state department? Yeah right.

Maybe not deliberately, but is bombing buildings not caring if kids are in them or not better?? Not journalists killing is what I would like to see them comment on.

You're going to have to take my word for it because I'm lazy and in bed, but Israel goes to serious effort to make no distinction between civilian, terrorist, protester or child.

They have rules of engagement so broad that basically nobody is safe. When soldiers gunned down children, they are either not charged or cleared by falsified evidence. Some of which admits that they killing was unjustified and offers alternative explanations to be given to the press.

Their bombs arent deliberately targeting much of anything... Even though those bombs are extremely expensive and capable of centimeter precision targeting.

I've seen video of civvies in Gaza trying to take cover away from open space and being shot right through the knee. It's been circulating since what I think in real time would be 2 nights ago. State department has been captured by the IDF.

The Yankee War Machine department expects me to believe this.

Hamas was just the bodies that fell along the way.

All good then, you may resume. /S

God is dead still, they keep killing him for some reason. Sides don't matter.

Might as well justify America's mass shootings too. War is war.

For the cases when the Hamas are hiding in the same buildings as civilians (effectively using them as a human shield), what does the esteemed audience suggest?