Spyke
lemmy.world

In a statement, the consul general of Israel to the southeast US, Anata Sultan-Dadon, said that the diplomatic mission is "saddened to learn of the self-immolation at the entrance to the office building". "It is tragic to see the hate and incitement toward Israel expressed in such a horrific way"

Anyone else caught off guard by this utterly tone deaf statement?

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Hurting others is an act of hate. Setting yourself on fire is an act of desperation and hopelessness. It’s disrespectful to suggest otherwise.

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Omegareply
lemmy.world

I'm at a total loss. There has been such a concerted effort to paint any resistance to the Gaza genocide as anti-Israel or antisemitic. Its honestly hard to tell if these types of people are totally delusional or if they're doing it intentionally.

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Tedrowreply
lemmy.world

It's 100% intentional because the government and military of Israel want to be viewed as synonymous with Jewish people. Its their justification for calling anti Israel sentiments anti-Semitic.

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Totally agree. Ethno states are bad and they're bad for the ethnic group as well.

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Barbarianreply
sh.itjust.works

There are plenty of rabbis who describe zionism as being against the torah, because Jews are only supposed to return to Israel during the end-times.

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kbin.social

Which is precisely why the evangelical Christians are so vehemently pro-Israel. They want the end times to come.

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lemmy.world

I want their end times to come too so they can get raptured out. I feel like there'd be an immediate improvement in society.

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Yeah, if hell is separation from Yahweh/Allah, that sounds great for the world.

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lemmy.world

Wanting a homeland for them (in order to purge them from one's own country because of one's own bigotry) is absolutely anti-Semitic.

Personally, I like having different types of people around and it would suck if Jewish people all moved back to Israel.

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Theodore hertzel encouraged antisemitism to encourage Jews to move and modern Zionists do too.

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DarkGamerreply
kbin.social

Wanting a homeland for them (in order to purge them from one’s own country because of one’s own bigotry) is absolutely anti-Semitic.
Personally, I like having different types of people around and it would suck if Jewish people all moved back to Israel.

Having a homeland does not imply they have to live there. I'm glad to have them around too, and I'm glad they have an international ally and a place to escape to should pogroms return. They are still frequently scapegoated by the right and are the subject of countless conspiracy theories. It wasn't long ago they were driven from the Muslim world, and it's a good thing they had Israel to escape to. In WWII, before Israel existed, they didn't.

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Having a homeland does not imply they have to live there

Not everyone thinks this way. "Go back where you came from" is a rallying cry of racist bigots around the world. Israel is just passing the buck on violence against stateless people.

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MagicShelreply
programming.dev

It is possible to hate both the Israeli government and Hamas while simultaneously supporting Jews and Palestinians. This is not a black and white issue. When you cage and oppress people, you make violence inevitable. And so even though I deplore the violence of Hamas, I can't help but see Israel as bearing a large share is the responsibility as the party who holds all of the non-violent power (and most of the violent power, but that's beside the point).

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kbin.social

Israel is intentionlly misusing the term antisemitism to defend their ethnostate project

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That has been their modus operandi for a long time though, and they usually get away with it.

Equating antisemitism (race) with anti-zionism (ideology) is their favourite strategy.

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I think the people in positions of power are doing it intentionally. Their followers however are delusional.

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Also:

"The sanctity of life is our highest value. Our prayers are with the security officer who was injured while trying to prevent this tragic act".

I’m sure all the dead Gazans are glad to know the sanctity of their lives are important.

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"It is tragic to see the hate and incitement toward Israel expressed in such a horrific way"

This is Trump-like narcissism.

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sh.itjust.works

And then they followed it up with this nonsense:

"The sanctity of life is our highest value. Our prayers are with the security officer who was injured while trying to prevent this tragic act".

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Not at all. Western news outlets have always also been tone-deaf about the genocides and mass killings their countries perpetuate.

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Junereply

No, this is par for the course for Israel.

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Not caught off guard at all, they don't see anyone from or defending Palestine as people.

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lemmy.world

"It is tragic to see the hate and incitement toward Israel expressed in such a horrific way," she added. "The sanctity of life is our highest value. Our prayers are with the security officer who was injured while trying to prevent this tragic act".

I must be misunderstanding this quote, because uhhh….

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If the quote makes it sound like they're horrific piece of shit then you read it right

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Dude I read that part a few times... The person delivering this quote isn't interpreting self-immolation the same way (as an act of protest to highlight atrocities), like, at all...

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