From an European perspective, it has always been a point of divergence with my American friends and colleagues. They always want the fattier, more sugar-full version arguing there's more taste and it's "real food", but in our point of view it taste like junk and don't compete a second with a home-made traditional one (and are pricier !).
Can't speak for the US as a whole but everywhere I've lived Domino's is the cheapest. I can get a medium 2 topping pizza at dominoes for $6.99. We have 3 family run traditional pizza places within driving distance of where I live, for a 2 topping medium pizza they cost: $14.75, $15.99, or $18.99.
That’s my point about Italy having better ingredients. The assembling of the ingredients is the issue. This is why authentic Italian-American pizza is the best. The bougie places shell out for imported ingredients and cook them in the American style.
When I was in Venice I only tried a Diavolo at a local restaurant. It certainly could be my American expectations but nothing amazed me about it; definitely feel like a bit more could be done to mesh the ingredients. Or, maybe my American brain just craved sweeter, cheesier stuff.
Then again, I went to Germany and the bread there was fantastic compared to America, so unless they boarded the sugar train it feels like there must be something that can be done right with good ingredients.
Venice is a hard place. Pretty much every restaurant is a tourist trap. For good food it is better to have different appetizer sized things in bars and trattorias. Didn't find a single sit down classical restaurant with good food for reasonable price.
Just this month I was there and the pizza is a different concept there to be sure.
Street pizzas of thinly sliced zucchini or potato covering bread rounds with olive oil. That’s pizza in Rome.
Focaccia bread like crust with some anchovies and potatoe? Pizza.
Neapolitan style is just a different style again, but the theme is dough is not the delivery agent, it is the primary purpose. The dough is the important bit, with toppings being intended to enhance subtle flavors for it.
Italian pizza is most similar in American expectations of food typically found there, to flatbread dishes. It’s flatbread with some stuff on top to accent it. There is no cheese on most of the pizza I had in the various parts of Italy I was in. Cheese was not an expected component. Healthy or at least flavorful variations on additions to the dough are the goal.
Whether you are in Sardinia, Calabria, or Rome; pizza is pizza dough with local additives.
I have seen French fries on top of pizza in Sardinia, and this was called there “American pizza” :)
I have not been to Italy, but I have made several of the authentic recipes used as reference in “Modernist Pizza”. I know it’s called modernist, but they go back to the roots before rebuilding.
I highly recommend it to anyone who enjoys food history and techniques regardless of their desire to cook at home.
And you really think Domino's is better?
I believe the quality of the ingredients used are very, very different. With Domino's specifically I only had bad experience and only in Europe, but when I was in NYC I tried some slice of NY style pizza and it was ok. But for me it was just a normal pizza like thousands I can have randomly around Italy.
It was authentic pizza that convinced me it’s true people eat with their eyes. Just deeply off putting and lacking in symmetry.
Of course it’s better if I put on the completely serious no fun hat. One is a chain the other is not. No such thing as a chain that’s better than non-chain. One is all about consistency and cost-cutting whereas the other is constantly judged solely on quality, usually with only a single shot at it.
I enjoy seeing how many people had an opinion and lacked the words to express it. Cowards, I’ll suck you all off at the same time. Momma didn’t raise no coward and those massive American pizzas trained me for oral stretching.
What holiday do Americans celebrate that might have something to do with making Italian-Americans upset?
I’ll give you a hint, he said this in a letter: “They do not bear arms, and do not know them. They have no iron. Their spears are made of cane. They would make fine slaves. With fifty men we could subjugate them all and make them do whatever we want.”
Yep in Italy is dirt cheap but the further away you go the more the American style stays cheap while the Italian style becomes "gourmet" and gets more expensive.
When I was living in London (pre brexit I don't know now) I remember paying 6 pounds 50 for a really good napolitan pizza at "Da Michele" while dominoes was like 18 pounds for basically hot garbage
A crybaby yelling at people and offering galaxy brain advice like “limit the size of your menu, it keeps consistency up” and “clean daily”?
dental technology
You’ve seen those haggard chompers, it’s a miracle they don’t fall out or bite themselves comically whilst speaking. Imagine what people who gave a shit could do with that dental necromancy
Maybe it's different in the states, but Domino's is ridiculously overpriced for pizza in the UK (yes I know you can always find a voucher), you can get two neapolitan pizzas and change for the price of some of the pizzas on the Domino's menu.
Not really sure how they're still afloat over here simply beyond existing momentum
I kinda dig the bland crust. Not for eating, but for not eating. Like, sometimes you'd rather your calories come from toppings, and saving the crust for the next day to dip in those shitty marinara cups when you're tired as hell is a good thing.
Like, not often, but sometimes.
Then again, we don't do pizza often, and it's usually when all adults are fucking wrecked via some bullshit or another that pushed us past our limits (both me and my wife are disabled, and my dad is old as fuck lol). If we want pizza to really enjoy I make it myself, or order it from the two yankees that set up a shop in town.
It’s good for sprinkling in the lawn of my bird-phobic neighbor. HOA wouldn’t let me get a Turkey to keep in the yard so I’ll attract a wild one damn it.
Other than LC who is cheaper? Only a fool orders pizza without a coupon so I’m assuming that’s being taken into account given the prevalence (that’s part of their pricing strategy, it’s built in).
Can't speak for the US as a whole but everywhere I've lived Domino's is the cheapest. I can get a medium 2 topping pizza at dominoes for $6.99. We have 3 family run traditional pizza places within driving distance of where I live, for a 2 topping medium pizza they cost: $14.75, $15.99, or $18.99.
Baffled at the plenty of toppings and lots of cheese notes. Maybe it’s just Dominoes in Canada but I’m fairly certain there’s less cardboard in the box it came in. To each their own I guess.
different supplier than the supply region I’m in, so I’ll take your word for it.
Maybe it’s part of the MAID plan? Easier to convince people if they don’t have good cheese to remind them that it’s worth going on until that next greasy slice.
I know it's a meme, but this is a dumb take. You're comparing two very different things, and they serve two different purposes. Sometimes you want to crush some fast food at 2 am after drinking at the pub, sometimes you want to have really good pizza where less is more and the quality of the ingredients matter. Eat both and be happy you have pizza.
I feel you, variety is the spice of life (but that’s only after a vicious battle against cumin that could have gone either way).
That sounds awesome, I’m on the Wikipedia pages for a couple of those rn and you’re spot on. Nothing like it around me, but there is a Pakistani place that does Charsi Karahi with goat and it’s “viable contender for last meal” tier.
I need to learn how to make some Marathi food, when you said “spicy by Indian standards” you convinced me lol.
Thank you for sharing all this information and stuff. Not what I expected from a pizza shitpost.
From an European perspective, it has always been a point of divergence with my American friends and colleagues. They always want the fattier, more sugar-full version arguing there's more taste and it's "real food", but in our point of view it taste like junk and don't compete a second with a home-made traditional one (and are pricier !).
That. Unless Domino’s has a completely different pricing strategy in the US, They are the expensive option.
I like eating dominos once in a while, it’s a great sweet fatty snack, but it’s not cheaper.
Can't speak for the US as a whole but everywhere I've lived Domino's is the cheapest. I can get a medium 2 topping pizza at dominoes for $6.99. We have 3 family run traditional pizza places within driving distance of where I live, for a 2 topping medium pizza they cost: $14.75, $15.99, or $18.99.
Little Caesars, but they're cheating as the pizza is mostly an afterthought. They're actually a distribution company.
Little Caesars: It's hot and ready!
Us: Is it good?
LC: It's hot, and it's ready.
It’s the second cheapest here if you for something you don’t cook at home after buying it frozen.
Little Ceaser’s would give an Italian aneurysm, buts like 5 bucks for a week of calories.
Little Caesars isn't a pizza company. That's just a bonus. They're actually a distribution company
Domino's is way cheaper than an actual Italian pizza in the US.
It's also shit pizza, I'd rather buy a frozen one and put my own stuff on it. Then it's cheaper and better.
Sugar is overrated AF.
Sugar is the devil. The devil is actually quite sweet. I also enjoy putting the devil in my mouth.
Have you ever blown the devil in the pale moonlight?
More of broad daylight in a dog park situation. Thank god for the staffing issues at the local PD
Is the local PD the devil you blow?
I have standards.
Proffessionals have standards
That’s my point about Italy having better ingredients. The assembling of the ingredients is the issue. This is why authentic Italian-American pizza is the best. The bougie places shell out for imported ingredients and cook them in the American style.
When I was in Venice I only tried a Diavolo at a local restaurant. It certainly could be my American expectations but nothing amazed me about it; definitely feel like a bit more could be done to mesh the ingredients. Or, maybe my American brain just craved sweeter, cheesier stuff.
Then again, I went to Germany and the bread there was fantastic compared to America, so unless they boarded the sugar train it feels like there must be something that can be done right with good ingredients.
Venice is a hard place. Pretty much every restaurant is a tourist trap. For good food it is better to have different appetizer sized things in bars and trattorias. Didn't find a single sit down classical restaurant with good food for reasonable price.
Idk man, I see a lot of mesh
Im not saying you should go to naples to try the real one, but have you at least ever been to Italy?
Yes.
Just this month I was there and the pizza is a different concept there to be sure.
Street pizzas of thinly sliced zucchini or potato covering bread rounds with olive oil. That’s pizza in Rome.
Focaccia bread like crust with some anchovies and potatoe? Pizza.
Neapolitan style is just a different style again, but the theme is dough is not the delivery agent, it is the primary purpose. The dough is the important bit, with toppings being intended to enhance subtle flavors for it.
Italian pizza is most similar in American expectations of food typically found there, to flatbread dishes. It’s flatbread with some stuff on top to accent it. There is no cheese on most of the pizza I had in the various parts of Italy I was in. Cheese was not an expected component. Healthy or at least flavorful variations on additions to the dough are the goal.
Whether you are in Sardinia, Calabria, or Rome; pizza is pizza dough with local additives.
I have seen French fries on top of pizza in Sardinia, and this was called there “American pizza” :)
I have not been to Italy, but I have made several of the authentic recipes used as reference in “Modernist Pizza”. I know it’s called modernist, but they go back to the roots before rebuilding.
I highly recommend it to anyone who enjoys food history and techniques regardless of their desire to cook at home.
And you really think Domino's is better? I believe the quality of the ingredients used are very, very different. With Domino's specifically I only had bad experience and only in Europe, but when I was in NYC I tried some slice of NY style pizza and it was ok. But for me it was just a normal pizza like thousands I can have randomly around Italy.
It was authentic pizza that convinced me it’s true people eat with their eyes. Just deeply off putting and lacking in symmetry.
Of course it’s better if I put on the completely serious no fun hat. One is a chain the other is not. No such thing as a chain that’s better than non-chain. One is all about consistency and cost-cutting whereas the other is constantly judged solely on quality, usually with only a single shot at it.
Yes, lemmy is large enough to get astroturfing bots now. Congratulations you are very smart.
It's embarrassing how butthurt people are about this post. Euros can't take a joke.
I enjoy seeing how many people had an opinion and lacked the words to express it. Cowards, I’ll suck you all off at the same time. Momma didn’t raise no coward and those massive American pizzas trained me for oral stretching.
Seeing Dominoes as the standard for American pizza fills me with sadness and shame.
Yes, I know it’s only a shitpost, but still.
Deep Dish erasure. It’s like our only original pizza contribution.
The perfidious Swede is known for curried bananas on their pizza. It could be worse.
Well, no. That would be tomatoes. Italians (and the world) have the indigenous peoples of the Americas to thank for that.
GOOD COMMENT, I’m stealing that for that when I repost this on genocide day to trigger people from New Jersey.
Pizza as a dish is an American dish at its core. Land and credit for Pizza back.
Deep dish is still better than anything Italy ever made, look at the amount of tomato in there. The defining ingredient.
Genocide day? What are we doing this year?
What holiday do Americans celebrate that might have something to do with making Italian-Americans upset?
I’ll give you a hint, he said this in a letter: “They do not bear arms, and do not know them. They have no iron. Their spears are made of cane. They would make fine slaves. With fifty men we could subjugate them all and make them do whatever we want.”
Celebrating with pizza of course
What do you mean expensive? A Margherita is usually around 7 euros
Who's talking about Africa?
They use euros in Africa? We are talking about Italian pizza so I'm talking about Italy
Yep in Italy is dirt cheap but the further away you go the more the American style stays cheap while the Italian style becomes "gourmet" and gets more expensive.
Wow that sucks
Frozen Pizza is something like 4€ for 3 cheap pizzas or one slightly more fancy pizza. Germany, not Africa.
When I was living in London (pre brexit I don't know now) I remember paying 6 pounds 50 for a really good napolitan pizza at "Da Michele" while dominoes was like 18 pounds for basically hot garbage
https://shop.rewe.de/p/ja-steinofen-pizza-margherita-3x300g/8089206
Three frozen pizzas, 3€.
If only the British were willing to share their culinary secrets and dental technology, many of the world's problems could be solved decisively.
A crybaby yelling at people and offering galaxy brain advice like “limit the size of your menu, it keeps consistency up” and “clean daily”?
You’ve seen those haggard chompers, it’s a miracle they don’t fall out or bite themselves comically whilst speaking. Imagine what people who gave a shit could do with that dental necromancy
it’s funny how seriously people are taking this lol. good shitpost
I think the downvotes are from how obstinate I’m being. I clearly marked it with a /s
This is pathetic
L
You should read Alberto Grandi. Broaden those horizons, just like the new world did for Italian food.
Seems normal to me, I can't order Domino's unless I'm fully nude.. phone or on person. Figured we all had that problem!
Reddit taught me that’s the normal way to answer and the driver takes the view in lieu of a tip
Domino's crust is always covered with a layer of nasty gritty powder, even if I tell them to not season the crust.
it's the cornmeal they use to keep it from sticking during prep
Uh, I'm pretty sure it's baby powder.
Yeah that's not seasoning, that's corneal. Unless you mean the edges? Then that's their fake parmesan.
Corn flour? Lol
Maybe it's different in the states, but Domino's is ridiculously overpriced for pizza in the UK (yes I know you can always find a voucher), you can get two neapolitan pizzas and change for the price of some of the pizzas on the Domino's menu.
Not really sure how they're still afloat over here simply beyond existing momentum
I kinda dig the bland crust. Not for eating, but for not eating. Like, sometimes you'd rather your calories come from toppings, and saving the crust for the next day to dip in those shitty marinara cups when you're tired as hell is a good thing.
Like, not often, but sometimes.
Then again, we don't do pizza often, and it's usually when all adults are fucking wrecked via some bullshit or another that pushed us past our limits (both me and my wife are disabled, and my dad is old as fuck lol). If we want pizza to really enjoy I make it myself, or order it from the two yankees that set up a shop in town.
It’s good for sprinkling in the lawn of my bird-phobic neighbor. HOA wouldn’t let me get a Turkey to keep in the yard so I’ll attract a wild one damn it.
Other than LC who is cheaper? Only a fool orders pizza without a coupon so I’m assuming that’s being taken into account given the prevalence (that’s part of their pricing strategy, it’s built in).
I will copy my response to another poster:
Can't speak for the US as a whole but everywhere I've lived Domino's is the cheapest. I can get a medium 2 topping pizza at dominoes for $6.99. We have 3 family run traditional pizza places within driving distance of where I live, for a 2 topping medium pizza they cost: $14.75, $15.99, or $18.99.
It's like that in the US too. I'm not a coupon person but I use an online coupon (it's under Deals or something) every time with Dominoes.
Yeah it's definitely not the cheap option but it's still nice to have occasionally
Both the same price.
Proper Italian pizza - Just a like a mamma used to make
Dominos - 50% shareholder profit, 50 disappointment
Baffled at the plenty of toppings and lots of cheese notes. Maybe it’s just Dominoes in Canada but I’m fairly certain there’s less cardboard in the box it came in. To each their own I guess.
different supplier than the supply region I’m in, so I’ll take your word for it.
Maybe it’s part of the MAID plan? Easier to convince people if they don’t have good cheese to remind them that it’s worth going on until that next greasy slice.
I know it's a meme, but this is a dumb take. You're comparing two very different things, and they serve two different purposes. Sometimes you want to crush some fast food at 2 am after drinking at the pub, sometimes you want to have really good pizza where less is more and the quality of the ingredients matter. Eat both and be happy you have pizza.
That's the joke
Come on, we both know the toppings are the star of the show and bread is the delivery vehicle.
See how thick that chonker on the left is? That’s because it has a higher bread to topping ratio.
And people accuse Americans of wanting more sugar. WHAT DOES BREAD TURN INTO?
Poop. Like and subscribe for more biology lessons.
I always forget how good a genuine pizza is until I have it again
The ignorant peasants, yes. I can feed myself for two whole days off the price of a McDonald's combo meal these days.
Eat the Mcslop citizen! A frugal wage-slave is bad for the economy, so do your part be precarious!
Memes aside, Punjabi food is definitely in the top tier when it comes to styles of Indian food (and Indian food is top tier already).
I feel you, variety is the spice of life (but that’s only after a vicious battle against cumin that could have gone either way).
That sounds awesome, I’m on the Wikipedia pages for a couple of those rn and you’re spot on. Nothing like it around me, but there is a Pakistani place that does Charsi Karahi with goat and it’s “viable contender for last meal” tier.
I need to learn how to make some Marathi food, when you said “spicy by Indian standards” you convinced me lol.
Thank you for sharing all this information and stuff. Not what I expected from a pizza shitpost.
I will doxx you to the mafia!
American here, Dominoes is effing disgusting.
I 100% unironically agree with this meme, and I worked in restaurants for years and ran one myself for a while.
They didn't mention taste so I'll begrudgingly agree lol
As far as taste though, Authentic messy bush leaf pizza > Domino's any day lol
Yeah, Italian Pizza actually needs less time in the oven.
Precisely, if you’re going to ruin good ingredients like that leave them raw.
:D
Honestly they turn the heat way up compared to American pizza, so it's faster but also burned in some spots :D
Please take pity on the Italians, they sent their best to America and now they are trying their best.