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Memes on c/Games - yes or no?

Edit: the results are in!

Hey all!

Since Lemmy is a new platform with new communities. We as the c/Games community have to decide what we want to be.

The last days I saw several posts with (low) effort memes. Some seem to enjoy it, some report it because they want a more serious discussion on here.

Therefore, I would like to ask you for your opinion: What should happen to memes on this community?

Please take a moment to fill in the poll. It will close on Monday.

https://strawpoll.com/jVyG8VzOGn7

Also feel free to discuss it in the comments!

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lemmy.world

No. R/gaming was a clownshow of the same low effort garbage posts. Have a day of the week or push it to another sub.

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lemmy.world

OMG, this game is so buggy, when are they going to fix it?! GIF of Skyrim being Skyrim

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Yeah I’m a fan of the subs that do allow it one day a week. Sometimes you’ll see stuff custom made for the sub based on some comment or post that made the rounds.

But yeah for now I’d say no memes. As everything expands I’m sure we can get enough people to get gaming meme subs going.

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lemmy.world

I voted no. I would prefer this community to be more like r/Games than r/gaming. I would rather the community be about game news, reviews, and discussions.

Allowing a single day of the week will lead to more work on the moderators than a general ban. It also makes the community less usable on those days. I also worry that it will destroy viewing the community by top posts.

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lemmy.world

I wanted to write a whole paragraph but you summed it up nicely. I'd also add that I'm afraid allowing memes, even on a single day, could be a slippery slope, and that I'd rather keep them on another community.

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I’m afraid allowing memes, even on a single day, could be a slippery slope,

yeah, I think trying to make everyone happy with forced coexistence (instead of just having two distinct areas) might actually be likely to only create more friction

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lemmy.world

I like the choice for a single day of the week - seems a good happy medium.

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lemmy.world

I'm not even sold on the one day a week option. Maybe the mods can do a stickied megathread one day a week and all the memesters can just pile in there and have at it. If the community itself is just going to be flooded with memes one day a week, though, that essentially makes it unusable that day and reduces the overall value of the entire community.

Keep them out altogether or keep them severely constrained so those who don't want anything to do with them can easily ignore them are the only two viable options.

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I like this the most. Plus, then we can search for the stickies threads to browse for memes when we’re in the mood, instead of having them all loose everywhere

8

This suggestion seems to be what I would prefer. It will make it easier to ignore for people who don't want to engage with that kind of content.

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I voted for that, but almost immediately regretted not going for the "none at all" option.

The people that want a gaming meme community want that. They don't want a 2000 word eurogamer deep dive or the Verge breaking down some publisher deal, they just want a meme page. The people that want a nice hub for gaming headlines of the day aren't generally looking for that to be replaced 15% of the time with image macros of Geralt making a funny face in a cutscene.

Splitting that into two communities (like /c/Games and c/gamingmemes or something) seems like the best way to allow for both spaces to exist for people who want that environment, when they want it, without the additional friction of them trying to coexist and appeal to different groups of people. I can understand why that compromise feels like a good way to make everyone happy (and it's why I voted for it initially!) but I'm just not convinced that it's a better solution than two distinct spaces with their own distinct approaches.

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I second this notion. Memes are fun on occasion, but not all the time.

I’d rather the community grow to be a place to hear about good gaming news and opinions, and not just crammed full of memes.

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I agree with this. I’m not opposed to memes here, but it’s probably best in limited quantities. Would keep good discussion threads from getting buried

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lemmy.world

Absolutely no memes please. Right now, r/games is easily the subreddit that I miss the most, and it's because it was entirely news and discussion focused. I sincerely hope I can turn to this community for most of my gaming news, and don't want to see an influx of memes.

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Yes, 100%. I want that one-stop shop for game news and discussion. I don’t need meme reposts here.

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Pretty much this, I want a concentrated source of gaming news and relevant media, at worst having one day a week set aside for jokes or less relevant content. But even that begs why not just make another sub like gamingmemes. Keep each c/ focused and on topic, people can join/make subs that fall outside the scope .

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100% agreed. There was r/gaming for the memes side of things and that place was usually a pretty terrible community (partially because it was a main subreddit). I’d rather have a discussion focused place here.

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100% agreed. There was r/gaming for the memes side of things and that place was usually a pretty terrible community (partially because it was a main subreddit. I’d rather have a discussion focused place here.

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lemmy.world

no thank you, Reddit already became bloated to hell and back via memes being allowed on a lot of forums, let's keep it sanitized and have another community for that.

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lemmy.world

I love me a good gaming meme, but I would rather this community to stay focused on discussion. There could be a separate community dedicated to gaming related memes so people could have another place to get their fix instead.

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I actually loved how it was split between /r/gaming as a place for memes and (really, like really really) low effort posts and /r/games for actual news and discussions around games. I would not combine both.

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lemmy.world

The issue I have with memes is that you end up with the same low effort meme posts:

"does anyone remember this forgotten gem? (image of best selling game)"

"When your custom character is in a cutscene"

"You're 12 again, school is over and you're about to play (massively popular game)"

Etc

I feel like maybe there should just be a gaming memes community. For that sort of content.

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The problem is memes are really low effort. So it will drown out all other types of content.

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lemmy.world

Memes are kind of everywhere, and seem to take over everything else around them. They're like an invasive species, really. They're the invasive content of the Internet world.

I say we go meme-less!

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Yes. The problem is that if memes are allowed, any community becomes 90% memes or more.

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lemmy.world

No memes, allowing memes usually ends up in it being the only thing posted instead of discussions.

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Plus once you open up that door, it's hard to close it.

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No, I'd rather have a separate community for game memes (which I myself might also join) and keep things clean here.

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Absolutely not. Just look at the difference between /r/games and /r/gaming. One is a place where people discuss the latest games and gaming news, the other is a place where people post pictures of their old video game cartridges and low effort memes.

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It's better to have a separate subreddit community for memes. Allowing memes will results in this being the only content here.

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This is how all new rules should come into place, on every community. By voting by the community.

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Absolutely not. Games on Reddit was a serious news and discussion forum. That's what I'd like to see here. Meme communities can name themselves just that, but this is c/Games, not c/Gaming or c/GameMemes

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lemmy.world

No memes imo. R Gaming was a shit fest i’of memba this game!

C/gamingmemes and boom, go wild and you can sun to both instead of ruining the mainline community :)

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No memes here, please. I actually enjoy them but we can have a separate option elsewhere on lemmy for that.

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lemmy.world

My dream would be to find the slightly pedantic discussions and review threads of /r/games, and leave memes for other communities.

But I don't think we'll be enough people to do so, merging might be the way to go.

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lemmy.world

But I don’t think we’ll be enough people to do so

We aren't until we are.

No community springs forth fully-formed. Lemmy's already had one big influx of users after the reddit blackout, and we can expect there to be another wave (to some extent or another) tomorrow after the major apps shut down. Some of those users will certainly have been subscribed to /r/games and not /r/gaming, and are going to want an equivalent community here.

The only way to foster that and let it grow is to enforce the requisite rules that keep the community from turning into a cesspool right at the start. Maybe it'll slow overall growth, but it won't kill it altogether. If that means that /c/Games here doesn't end up as the pre-eminent Lemmy community for games, well, so be it. /r/games was significantly smaller than /r/gaming, but it still thrived.

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You know what that's true. There are more than enough memes community on lemmy, I vote to keep this one as discussion focused as possible.

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It’s definitely a valid question, because Lemmy is going to be just as vulnerable as reddit to the problem of how much quicker low-effort memes accrue upvotes, which naturally results in them drowning out articles and discussion posts. The latter, despite being more interesting and generally “higher-quality”, will always take more time per-user to engage with - so, in systems like this, they naturally fall behind in both pace and volume of upvote.

So, as long as we’re using an upvote system, those need to be split so the articles and discussion posts don’t get drowned out in a sea of easily-consumed and quickly-upvoted low-content posts. I know I would personally really prefer having a proper feedly-style community with a bunch of articles and discussions than another gaming meme one that could basically be a bot linked to an instagram feed.

I actually voted for one day but now that I've thought about it a bit more, I think I'd prefer a /c/games and /c/gamemes or something, just so the people that want the latter have their space all the time. It seems preferable to the friction of trying to share space for both styles of community when we don't actually have to. I think, if we do vote to keep them, we're going to need a /c/gamingdiscussion or something for the actual wordy content.

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I can already find a trillion worthless memes anywhere else. There’s no need to bury useful content under all that noise here.

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I vote no, there should be other gaming communities which are meme focused, and memes certainly have their place, but I'd rather have this be a place on Lemmy for serious gaming discussion

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lemmy.world

I absolutely despised the low effort shit in rgaming.

But please please please, if you’re going to accept low effort crap, make people post the title of the game in the post.

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oh man, I'm glad I'm not the only one that's always been annoyed by that on reddit.

So many times, you'd just get a post like "man you know this guys a real one" with a picture of some pixelated lifeguard, 30 comments of people like "yeah thats my boy 🙌🙌🙌", and then one poor guy at the bottom sitting at -30 just trying to find out what's going on.

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No. I want this community to be focused on games discussions. Memes can be posted on c/GamesMemes.

8

Please no memes.

Also, no posts where someone posts a picture of a game box with the title “just about to start playing this bad boy, wish me luck” or “they don’t make games like this anymore”. It’s just a picture of the game! Why is it here?!?!?

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Old Reddit user turned Lemmy here. Memes are fun and all, but they also get out of hand very quickly and we're stuck with a sub with low-effort memes instead of actual discussion/news. Once a month meme day could work though.

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Exactly. A space for serious discussion and analysis of games and gaming on Lemmy could have so much potential, and allowing low-effort memes here would undermine that.

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My first opinion on my not even 2 day old account would be no.

But I'd be OK with a MemeDay as well if the "no meme"s result isn't over 50% in the poll. It can bring a nice bit of variety (even if that same content is available elsewhere).

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I voted no. Reddit has separate subreddits for gaming discussion and gaming memes and I would like it to stay that way here.

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So with a little under 3 hours to go it looks like the community has done the right thing and picked no memes at all (by around 120 votes as it currently stands).

Now let's see about blocking photo posts and other low-effort garbage, too, while we're at it.

It's pretty clear from the vote and the comments that we want this to be the equivalent of /r/games - text posts and links only. If someone needs to show off their hall effect stick mod or a photo of some dude flipping the bird, they can do it in a hardware-dedicated or circlejerk community where that kind of thing belongs (respectively).

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Either no memes (rather a separate community for that) or something like memes only allowed on one specific day of the week.

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lemmy.world

The pathofexipe sub has a "lazy Sunday" where memes are allowed. I kind of like that solution

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I voted for this as a compromise, but would be happiest if it were just like r/Games

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I liked what /r/hockey did: there was a different forum for memes, and then the “winner” (top-voted meme at midnight Monday UTC) would get its own thread in the main forum.

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Much like the gaming subreddit and the games subreddit were seperate beasts with seperate purposes, I think games should be a seperate beast from whatever gaming memes place is created, from the obvious gaming (to keep the reddit paralell) to the less obvious but more true to purpose gamingmemes.

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/c/gaming can allow memes like /r/gaming did.

/c/games should focus more on news and discussion, like /r/games did.

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No memes. If there must be gaming memes let them be in their own place. They're low effort and don't add anything to good conversation.

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I guess no then it's a shame I like my communitys be a mix of memes and discussions. Hope someone makes a place for gaming memes

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I think memes once a week is a good middle ground. It promotes more activity, but the limitation of only one day a week means it isn't constant noise.

Plus, memes are pretty much their own form of communication. Sure they're low effort, but they are still the voice of the community.

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To encourage growth, I say yes.

Once we have a ton of users that can keep a discussion going drop the memes and let this become like the Reddit games sub.

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Worth being a part of?

Memes are low-effort garbage. If you want gaming memes, go start up c/GameMemes or something. Leave the main community to discuss the topic instead of clogging it up with this stuff.

Using reddit as the example, /r/games was waaaay better than /r/gaming, because you could actually have a halfway decent conversation about games rather than having to scroll past endless page after page of the stupidest useless crap.

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Pretty good, just like r/Games was. r/gaming was a cesspool and r/Games was where all the actually interesting content was.

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