Twitter is now completely "walled" (dont wanna rattle cages with a wrong title whoopsie)
On this moment you'll need an account to view anything on the platform..
Every day the bird dies a little more
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Every day the bird dies a little more
That’s not what paywalled means.
And that's why the "quotes" 😉
To be fair, you are technically paying for it. Just with your data instead of money
OP could mean whenever they want. Most people understood what OP meant. I was just making a point that data is often an overlooked currency.
Also aren't you also being pedant by explaining OP didn't use the correct vernacular?
Do I have to explain excessive concern with trivial details?
But nice try though 😉
Would you mind going back to reddit?
Yes, they meant "Twitter is putting up barriers to browsing content." Even if paywall wasn't the right word, their intent was clear. Not sure why we feel the need to dive into whether they used the right word when the issue is Twitter (and Meta) attempting to seal off their users' content behind a login. Most everyone seems to have understood them.
Dude, no matter how much you simp for Elon, he's not gonna fuck you.
Get over yourself. You pedantic cockwaffle.
Did you misunderstand what they meant in the context of the post? No? Then there was no reason to have a multi-day meltdown because OP misunderstood what a word meant.
This is the pedantry website, arguably more so than Reddit is at this point
Not really. When I read that title, my first thought was twitter had implemented some sort of paid tier. It was arguably misleading
It seems you're squarely the exception to the rule.
Ambiguity is a "feature" of the English language.
What would you call it then? Account walled? Log blocked? Auth doored?
Perfect comparison
theyre called scare quotes
I think your username says it all 🤣
No one's shitting on you for pointing it out mate. See anyone calling the original commenter of this chain a dick for pointing it out? No? Because that's not the issue. People are shitting on you for being a cunt.
I read your comments hence my reply. Now how about you take your own advice and read mine eh? I wasn't arguing against anything. I was telling you you're a right cunt. Clear enough for you mate? Now move on.
Who's really "being a shit" here? I see nobody else being hostile but you. Accusing people of that which you are doing yourself is called "projection".
Nobody else is pedantically picking apart silly things like wording and terminology and then lashing out at others. Just you. We all knew what he meant. Were you ever told as a kid to "pick your battles"? Do you know what that means? Not everything deserves a response.
What's the matter, did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning and decide to take it out on the world? Significant other break up with you or cheat on you? Got fired? Did your pet die? Why are you so angry at the world? What did it ever do to you? None of those things (whichever is applicable) is our problem.
Please, let's leave those kinds of toxic, hostile behaviors on the dead bird site and reddit where they belong. We're trying to build something new here.
Otherwise, "play stupid games, win stupid prizes" and people are just going to report you for repeated incivility and offensive language.
EDIT: And your reply has been reported too. Since all you know is how to behave like a child, maybe we should all treat you like one.
You may have a point, but it's just that your replies have a certain quality to them which make you sound like an ass... butt... 🤔
Quotes are often used around a word when it's similar enough to another word to be understood.
Paywalled means you must have an account and pay in order to view an article.
There is no equivalent word that comes to mind for this, but "paywalled" is so close as to be misunderstood only if you're trying to do so -- you must now have an account and login in order to view what's behind the login wall.
No, it is not close. The meaning is not similar. Either a site charges you money for access or it doesn't. Twitter doesn't. So don't fucking say that it does, eh? What's so difficult about that? What reason is there to say something is paywalled if it isn't paywalled, except to stir the pot?
As I said originally, when legitimate media outlets publish misleading, sensational, or otherwise bullshit headlines, people are pissed. Why then is it suddenly a non-issue now? Why is it acceptable to mislead people if you're just another kbin user when it's such a mortal fucking sin otherwise? Saying that Twitter is paywalled is not ambiguity, it is misinformation. That's because Twitter isn't paywalled.
Username checks out.
Joke's on you, I spell it "shud'v"!
'Preciate it homie. Who knew calling out misinformation would be such a hot fucking take, eh?
I don't think we should go around saying things that are patently untrue and presenting them as news. I guess that makes me a fuckin' piece of shit.
The good ol' loginwall that social media sites have been moving to for a few years. Meta is also guilty of this... making it almost impossible to check out anything without a login.
@stux
Beautiful plumage.
HELLLLO POLLY! whack whack
and nothing of value was lost. . .
We can only gain! 😀
Just a reminder that nitter exists, which lets you browse twitter without needing an account, from a minimal ui and having everything proxied through the instance of choice for privacy. You can use the libredirect firefox addon to automatically redirect twitter (& optionally other services like youtube/reddit, etc to its frontend like nitter).
You can view a list of instances here.
edit: ... wow it looks like nitter's also affected by the account requirement, it stopped working, rip..
Shit filtered through a fine cloth is still shit.
Works now, though I don't know what nitter.net's method of obtaining Tweet data is, and wouldn't be terribly surprised if Twitter intends to crack down on that, sooner or later.
@stux good. now we can really pressure public services to move from it.
Kinda funny that sooo many links on soo many websites just redirect now
Hopefully most will now see Twitter is a sinking ship
Good, I don‘t want to see it anyway and the less people use it the better for the world.
It's frustrating, but I'm betting it won't last. With all the people who only visit twitter via links from other sites (or those embedded tweets in news articles), doing something like this will cause twitter's page traffic to suddenly implode. Which will cause their advertisement impression statistics to implode. Which will make their paying advertisers explode. And then twitter will roll it back.
Unless, of course, Elongated Muskrat is intentionally and purposefully trying to completely remove twitter from existence. In which case, this is a pretty clever move.
I expect that Twitter just wants people to install the Twitter app and get Twitter accounts.
I suppose that Reddit could do the same thing as well.
@stux
@MissingThePt
I'm now expecting Elon Jr. (Spaz) to do the same on Reddit because Elon is his idol and mentor.
I wish there was an option on #DuckDuckGo to exclude search results that point to Twitter since I can no longer read them. It's now just clutter in the search results.
@Jerry @stux @MissingThePt You can add -site:twitter.com to exclude Twitter results
Oh no!
Anyway...
Twitter: You need to turn off two-factor authentication because we put that behind a paywall.
Twitter: You need an account to view content now.
These two things combined just mean I'm not going to be looking at Twitter content, period. I refuse to disable 2FA and make my account less secure, so I just logged out. By logging out, I now am unable to view content. Twitter's slowly doing everything they can to kill off the efficacy of corporate messaging on their platform, huh?
Fine by me.
I tried to stop giving Twitter any clicks at all some time ago, but it didn't always work because so many people insist on linking it on other sites, so I'd occasionally end up giving Twitter a click inadvertently.
Now that'll just take me to a login page that I'll back out of.
@stux As I said on Mastodon: it probably is another “bug” that plagues Twitter since… “this guy” put his hands on it. It could be fixed soon because of the ruckus it will certainly make.
For now, you can still use Nitter instead.
Well yeah, I hope so! This cannot be a feature no matter how they spin it
@stux Big day for Nitter instances https://github.com/xnaas/nitter-instances
Turning the internet into walled gardens was always their plan. Kill everything open and free, force everyone into their controlled spaces, then flood them with ads and noise. That was the plan from day one.
It's really sad. They NEVER would have gotten anywhere if the internet was what they want it to be. Had the internet started as a bunch of closed spaces, the early sites would have monopolies on communication and we wouldn't have had near as incredible a tech explosion as we had. Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, none of them would have existed.
The era of open internet is coming to a close, unless the people choose to force it open.
Between this, reddit apps going down today, and YouTube coming out and saying they are implementing a 3 strikes and you're out policy on using adblockers. The internet got a lot shittier really fast.
Hold up, what's this about this three strikes adblocker shit?
Yep. It's apparently being tested for some users. If you use an ad blocker, youtube will tell you that you have 3 videos you can watch without ads before they block you from watching anything, until you remove adblock.
...Let the arms race begin again
@stux
That’s like having to pay a cover charge to see 80 year old strippers.
I guess some would still do that 🤷
@stux
Ewww.
yesss!
Oh lovely, another loginwall...
You only have to login, but what if I don't want an account with you just to read what someone's put on there?
Edit for all those who where worried about a "misleading title"🧡
It makes me really happy to see these ass-CEOs destroying their shitty platforms and making people consider moving to the Fediverse :)
@stux Get ready for a new influx of Mastodon users!
It's almost like Elon wanted to help push twitter users as well as the reddit exodus to lemmy
If you're still on Twitter, you're part of the problem.
If you browse Twitter without an account you're probably not part of the problem.
A friend ran in to this today when trying to check if a service provider was having technical issues.
I'm trying to use Nitter and it doesn't seem to be working. Is there any other way to view tweets without making an account? I refuse to be on twitter, but like to see what people are talking about.
It actually started to work for me without account when Elon bought it. Maybe it's geographical, you're not only person who says that.
It isn't a paywall if you can make a free account to access it.
"loginwalled" then. We know what he means.
"walled garden" is a term used for sites like this
Uh, okay... I didn't intend what I said as a correction. I was simply throwing that term out there because I hadn't seen anyone else mention it. Sorry to upset you.
My apologies for reading it that way.
It happened here before.
Stop going to Twitter for anything.
It was by chance! 😃 Was reading this: https://mashable.com/article/twitter-api-elon-musk-developer-issues-apps and it had some embedded Tweets
It's a terrible decision, but I think they just couldn't keep the servers up for the average user because of the "optimizations". People look for news on Telegram anyway nowadays.
@stux hurts just a little. No more lurking from the shadows
@stux I got out in time :)
I only used the site to check for announcements from people or companies and now that's gone. I presume quite a few people will now realise that they have less of an audience (and presumably search engine rankings will drop) and consider alternatives.
And now the wall is back down.
Here, lots of companies (usually semi-public, which don't want to spend money on their internal IT) use their Twitter accounts for official announcements. The bus company notifies of route outages, the local school posts news updates and administrative matters, etc. I wonder how long it will take for them to lobby the government or directly the European Commission to force Twitter to open the read mode to everyone again.
Ahh shit.
My rss feed doesn't return anything today and I thought it's nitter's issue.
@stux apparently twitter didn’t think of what would happen if they redirected incorrect and twitter ddosed themselves early this morning I guess its time for the fireworks.
@stux Well, I don't mind. If I wanted to see something there, I'd use Nitter. At least my friend won't send me links to twitter.
@[email protected] Nice, problem solved!
Good to see Musk finally taking moderation seriously 😅