When I would re-watch TNG I used to skip the first two seasons. They're pretty rough, but then I missed some of the good ones (measure of man, for example). Now I just skip the individual crappy ones.
I think people are holding SNW in such high regard because when it's compared to the rest of nu-trek, it's god tier. By itself, it's ok. I like it well enough. Plenty of stinkers episodes though. I still have hope for it.
Fervently disagree, it has squandered all it could have been and the writing is still absolutely awful. Granted, it's a notch above Discovery and Picard.
The best Star Trek show is the one you like the most. If that's Discovery, that's fine. And if you don't like the show, that's also fine. But making an overall declaration that a show is terrible and tacitly expecting everyone to agree is not cool.
I'm not expecting everyone agree whether or telling anyone whether or not they should or shouldn't like it, but there are many more demonstrable issues with writing and plotting, let alone canon, that exist in excess throughout Discovery, Picard, and SNW. These are objective issues that actual writers have taken issue with, and they're consistent issues with the executive producers involved.
Absolutely TNG or DS9 aren't some pantheon of perfection, but from an overall standpoint of consistency, narrative continuity, and proper handling of characters and their development? They're lightyears beyond the juvenile handling of characters and plots in the post 09 FMV shows. It's just fact.
You're ascribing a lot of emotional baggage to what I typed on my phone while pedaling a stationary bike that doesn't exist.
I'm not here to argue the finer points of plot holes in these productions that have been under spotlights for years and detailed far better by people with enough time to make hundreds of videos on the subjects like Robert Meyer Burnett, Nitpicking Nerd, and Red Letter Media.
If you enjoy these shows, fantastic, more power to you. Just don't tell me they're amazingly well-made and just as good as previous incarnations of Star Trek when they can and have been analyzed ad nauseam, displaying exactly how they aren't.
Agreed. I am very fond of star trek already and i am only 10 episodes into the original series. I believe it will take several months if not year before i get to know the characters in this picture.
I'm re-watching DS9 for the third time or something, but I've never seen anything released after Voyager except for the Abrams movie travesties. Am I still a Trekkie?
If this risa mag has taught me anything is that I'm not current on Trek.
I grew up on re-runs of TOS and I've seen most of the movies but not much at all of DS9 and NG and other TV shows. And I'm not really sure I want to watch all that. Very much enjoying 3rd Rock from the Sun right now, tyvm.
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The only fake trekkies are the ones complaining that newer Trek is too political or "woke."
What show did they even watch?
They're not "too political" or "woke," they're written by terrible committees and the executive producers / show runners are hacks.
Lower Decks (and Prodigy, I'm told) excluded.
Strange New Worlds is fantastic and takes plenty of risks other shows don't.
It’s a little little hit or miss. I really liked some of it, but some of the early stuff wasn’t so great.
So it really is Star Trek, then. :P
People like to forget how many shit episodes of every series there are.
When I would re-watch TNG I used to skip the first two seasons. They're pretty rough, but then I missed some of the good ones (measure of man, for example). Now I just skip the individual crappy ones.
Idk, I watched 2-3 seasons of DSC and gave up, my gf liked it so she kept watching it, whenever I'd watch an episode with her, I wouldn't enjoy it.
DSC convinced her to watch TNG, so we watched it from the start and seasons 1-2 were better than I remembered.
You're not wrong...
I think people are holding SNW in such high regard because when it's compared to the rest of nu-trek, it's god tier. By itself, it's ok. I like it well enough. Plenty of stinkers episodes though. I still have hope for it.
I actually rather like it. I think it’s made good progress past its first season. 
Fervently disagree, it has squandered all it could have been and the writing is still absolutely awful. Granted, it's a notch above Discovery and Picard.
Why?
The best Star Trek show is the one you like the most. If that's Discovery, that's fine. And if you don't like the show, that's also fine. But making an overall declaration that a show is terrible and tacitly expecting everyone to agree is not cool.
I'm not expecting everyone agree whether or telling anyone whether or not they should or shouldn't like it, but there are many more demonstrable issues with writing and plotting, let alone canon, that exist in excess throughout Discovery, Picard, and SNW. These are objective issues that actual writers have taken issue with, and they're consistent issues with the executive producers involved.
Absolutely TNG or DS9 aren't some pantheon of perfection, but from an overall standpoint of consistency, narrative continuity, and proper handling of characters and their development? They're lightyears beyond the juvenile handling of characters and plots in the post 09 FMV shows. It's just fact.
You're ascribing a lot of emotional baggage to what I typed on my phone while pedaling a stationary bike that doesn't exist.
I'm not here to argue the finer points of plot holes in these productions that have been under spotlights for years and detailed far better by people with enough time to make hundreds of videos on the subjects like Robert Meyer Burnett, Nitpicking Nerd, and Red Letter Media.
If you enjoy these shows, fantastic, more power to you. Just don't tell me they're amazingly well-made and just as good as previous incarnations of Star Trek when they can and have been analyzed ad nauseam, displaying exactly how they aren't.
Wow, they're just outing themselves
Isn't this Han Solo and Chewbacca?
No, this is Patrick (and perhaps Jonathan?)
No, I'm pretty sure it's Malcolm Reynolds and Wash.
*Han solo and Quackbacca
I'd sooner caution against gatekeeping.
Ensign, the joke still is about gatekeeping, so we are allowed to complain about anyone gatekeeping in this comment section.
Now go polish the phase inverters.
Agreed. I am very fond of star trek already and i am only 10 episodes into the original series. I believe it will take several months if not year before i get to know the characters in this picture.
Uhhhh that is obviously Laas and Rom.
Data and Neelix
It's pronounced Netflix you dummy
NetflixNeelix and chill ;)Sounds like a plan
Kneelicks and cheese 🧀
Now that's a name I've not heard in a long time...a long time.
Nice! I wasn’t aware of that site, the name just came to me. :)
For those who don't know, that is a picture of odo and quark from Deep Space nine. Quarks name has been deliberately misspelled as Quack.
They deliberately misspelled Obi too.
I'm a real Trekkie. My favorite ships are the USS Prometheus and the MCRN Rocinante.
Good ships.
Wait, the Doctor had an alien companion at some point? I'm a trekky through and through but I didn't know that
I want this character to appear in Star Trek
Damn it Jim, I'm a doctor, not a duck!
He's in the post already, with the big ears
Dr. Migleemo is the closest I've seen.
It's one of the lost serials.
Kes?
I watched maybe 3-10 Startrek episodes, I didn't see those or most of the people in the memes here.
Still I love this community
Quarks name is misspelled. They should've given him a duck head to make it more obvious
Should have or should've, not should of.
I tell you it was deliberate
That is because there are many series with each their own characters.
I'm just cracking up picturing Odo changing into an obo to spy on the visiting Cardassian orchestra
* Oboe.
I'm re-watching DS9 for the third time or something, but I've never seen anything released after Voyager except for the Abrams movie travesties. Am I still a Trekkie?
Even those that only played Star Trek Online can consider themselves trekkies.
We don't gatekeep.
I want to know these people who play STo but haven't watched Star Trek. Mainly to study them.
You should consider watching the Lower Decks episode "Hear All, Trust Nothing" if nothing else.
Well, I gotta say cartoon Kira and Quark have me very curious.
Noooo, you need to watch every episode pay for extra subscription services just to watch every new episode the day it is release.
Honestly anyone can get into star trek if they want to
Yes
If this risa mag has taught me anything is that I'm not current on Trek.
I grew up on re-runs of TOS and I've seen most of the movies but not much at all of DS9 and NG and other TV shows. And I'm not really sure I want to watch all that. Very much enjoying 3rd Rock from the Sun right now, tyvm.
Two of my least favorite characters anyway.
THERE, I SAID IT.
*Quack and Obo