YouTube Premium family plan price update ($17.99/month -> $32.99/month!)
So this is some bollocks. Guess I'll be cancelling our plan since it's only used by two of us.
Current price $17.99/month, new price $32.99/month.
If they boiled the frog better I would probably have accepted a $5/month price rise, and then another later... But close to doubling in one go is a no from me dawg.
Thank you for being a loyal member throughout our journey. We created YouTube Premium so that you could enjoy all the videos and music you love without interruptions.
To continue delivering great service and features, we are increasing the YouTube Premium family plan price to A$32.99/month. We don't make these decisions lightly, and this update will allow us to continue to improve YouTube Premium and support the creators and artists you watch on YouTube. This is the first ever price increase for your subscription.
Links to cancellation etc: https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/12400348?sjid=6028684095030617608-AP
$400 a year for YouTube premium.
I'd gladly pay that much for a robust ad blocker!
At this point, everyone should invest a fraction of that into automating youtube downloads. No ads, no buffering, and $200 will get you eniugh hard drive space for years.
I just use newpipe
Got the same bullshit email, total dick move by Google and I'll be cancelling. It's just pure greed.
I'm be exploring the ad blocking and/or VPN options.
Google need to separate YouTube and Music.
https://revanced.app
Well aware of those apps, installed that yesterday on my phone and Smarttube on the media player, could still end up blocked by Google.
In my experience Smart Tube for my Google tv is already blocked. Updated to the latest version and I still can't sign in with it. The code for activating the device never appears.
You might not have the latest version, that was a known bug and fixed yesterday.
I was able to sign in yesterday after updating.
As @[email protected] said, there was a second update (so, two in total) very soon after that "bug" (YouTube code change, is my bet).
Maybe double check you have v19.63 stable - the first attempt (v19.63 beta) didn't fully fix it for me.
Been working fine for me since then.
I've been using newpipe for android for several years.
It's great. One thing I've learned about these apps though is that they're brittle. Expect them to break, sometimes several times a month. That said, there's never been a case where I've noticed it break but a patch wasn't already released. The thing is, repo's like f-droid often aren't up to date. Much better to get the release from the source.
Yep - I don't use F-droid. Obtainium FTW.
newpipe is lighter and i like it
This is just the cable model. You want one channel (Youtube in this analogy) so you have to pay for the 200 channel package because that's the only place it is even though you don't want the other 199 channels.
If they threw in all of the things you said and still hiked the price, I'd still bail because not only do I not have any desire for those services, I actively want to avoid using many Google products as I can. The reality for me would be the same as including nothing and hiking the price, because I will still see no value from it.
I don't want none of those "features", I just want to browse YouTube without ads. Right now I have to choose, pay more than 100€/year to get it without trouble, or install an adblocker and also not have ads, but with the slim chance that YouTube will implement an anti-adblocker that will last a few days. I'll just install the adblocker.
If they just sold an "ad-free YouTube" instead of "premium YouTube" for half (or third) the price I might consider it, since I wouldn't have to worry ever again. I won't pay more than 100€/year just so I can get a single feature of a huge pack of features I don't need or want.
Bloatware is not going to help the issue.
What you are describing is similar to Apple One. Music and Storage, Apple Arcade, AppleTV+, News and Fitness+. The thing is, Apple also charge these things separately too, but if you just want two of them, you can just select two of them. The bundle is priced in such a way that it is more cost effective to get them bundled. The cost of the smaller bundle (without News or Fitness+) is much cheaper than what Google is asking for YouTube Premium.
I would have no interest in Googles other services, I hardly trust them with my YouTube viewing habits. I’m not going to trust them to store my files, read my email, log my search history, even if I do pay them for the privilege.
Yeah nah buddy.
I only have YouTube Premium/Red because it came free with Play Music, then they killed that and we all jumped to Spotify because it was/is so much better and kept our subscription just for ad-free YouTube.
If they seperate YouTube from YouTube Music, YouTube Music would die in seconds. The app sucks, having it linked to YouTube sucks, they know this.
Weird. I hated YouTube music (have it since my friend let me join his family plan) until I finally tried Spotify using xmanager. I realized ytm is miles ahead of Spotify and it's made me rethink my hate for it
What do you like about Spotify besides your friends being on it?
I've gotten used to the queue function which lets you scroll through your entire now playing list. I was blown away seeing that Spotify only shows the upcoming songs (at least on mobile). I'm also liking the option to switch to a music video mid song. That's super neat.
That said, even though I've never planned on paying for Spotify, I can totally see wanting options to pay for things separately
I've ditched Spotify a few times, purely for financial reasons since I'm already paying for YouTube Music, I always get frustrated and re-subscribe.
With Spotify I can switch between my car, my phone, my desktop, my loungeroom, my shed, anywhere I'm signed into Spotify, without having to start the song or playlist again. I've read YouTube Music working on this and it might be enough to get me to switch.
I don't care who else uses Spotify.
YouTube Music doesn't have a dedicated Android TV app, there's no background playback on either of my media players and I don't care for video clips.
You can also see all upcoming songs, and rearrange/remove them if desired, with Spotify. Maybe I'm not understanding your 3rd paragraph.
I don't want cloud storage. I want ad-free YouTube. And the price is not fit for what they offer (they are a damn content hoster and not motherfucking Netflix).
They want You to do everything Google. YouTube is the only thing that differentiates their All-in-One product from the competition. Everyone offers Music so VEVOs no value. Everything else Google offers for no monetary charge.
AppleOne includes music, storage and AppleTV+, as well as Fitness (that nobody uses, but nobody admits to not using).
Amazon Prime includes music, Audiobooks and Freight Discounts.
Xbox Gold offers games.
Netflix, HBO, etc, has no extra value except “original” and exclusive content.
Jesus, how do they justify that price?
They charge more than Netflix yet they don't even make any of their own content?
It's because you also get youtube music streaming included with it. If netflix had its own music streaming service bundled in their prices would be even higher than they are now.
Music might really be their main problem. Basically every video has some music in it. If not in the foreground, then in the background. Even game soundtracks in Let's Plays are often under license. So the moment someone plays any such video, the content mafia comes around the corner with their baseball bats in hand collecting their tolls.
So I assume if they have to pay for music any way, they figured they might as well include a tailored music listening experience with Premium.
No, it was honestly just a replacement for google play music.
My point was: they likely have to pay for licensed music to the content mafia, so they cannot really offer anything without including music in the pricing.
Not apologizing for them: they're assholes. But I expect they have more traffic. Still not saying they're right.
I'm always amaze by the fact that all these streaming platform do is give you access to others content ( they dont create shit), but they get to keep 98.7% of the revenue, because.
I will not justify the price increase of this post, but the high margins kinda do make sense to me.
The average profit that youtube makes on a gigabyte worth of video data, is much much lower than that 98.7%. There is such a vast amount of random crap being uploaded, that the content creators that actually generate views, hence revenue, must bear a huge sinkhole of costs for youtube. The same holds for Twitch: streams with only a handfull of watchers cost Twitch money. But it is a double edged sword. Because the reason these content creators are as big as they are, is because they could start from nothing, and upload for free. The big guys support vast amounts of amateurs trying to become big. It is probably one of the most socialistic models we have in our current capitalistic market.
That being said: Youtube is getting shittier in an attempt to sqeeze this model for extra profit.
There are better ways around this than by doubling the price for everyone and continuing to allow unlimited BS uploads for free. They charge $1.99 for 100GB of storage for email and photos. I guess it never occurred to them to include a minor barrier like this that most legitimate aspiring content creators would be willing to pay but would stop randos posting 10 hour long videos in 4K.
Exactly. This is why people defending YouTube are full of shit.
YouTube is trying to fuck everyone over first instead of investing time and effort into but making their platform a cesspool.
Start by removing the Nazi assholes and stop allowing everyone to post for free past their regular 15gb limit.
The current model means the cost of youtube and YouTube premium will just go up forever and price increases will be a monthly thing.
Interesting problem. Is it possible to trim copyright and pointless content, e.g. children's movies, entertainment shorts with less than a certain number of views, which can be used as pointers to redirect to the original content?
Automatically? Not trivially
I'm reading this thread with lots of people saying they keep paying for premium because they watch so much YouTube, and fair play to them, it's more convenient to pay
But what the fuck are people actually watching?!?
Edit - just seen this lmao - https://mander.xyz/post/5718061
As an avid YT watcher: lots of high quality food and cooking shows, music and concerts, science channels, space and spacefaring channels and of course regular entertainment. Enough to fill your whole day, if necessary. With no fucking ads at all. I love it! ❤️
I watch a lot of long-form video essays about politics, economics, media analysis, and societal stuff like that, sketch or video game comedy, and some random hobby stuff, all by independent creators. I also watch stream vods on YouTube. Oh and asmr to fall asleep. I don't want to watch ads obviously but it would be much more expensive to support everyone I watch on patreon, even if I only gave a dollar to every one. And I do want to support them financially because a lot of that long-form stuff literally takes weeks or months to make.
This is what I don't understand either - as someone who stopped using Youtube the day that they brought ads in (except for watching embedded videos elsewhere as they don't have ads), I haven't been exposed to the long-form enshittification others have experienced and so maybe that's why I don't get it, but who is using Youtube for hours on end and what are they watching? Is it just conspiracy theorists falling further and further down the rabbit hole? I really don't know.
I use it every day. I watch videos that are i on a specific topic, and YouTube has lots of them. For now, my uBlock in Firefox works. I will not pay for Premium if they block me
I'm curious what's driving this revenue rush at Alphabet. It almost feels like something internal, like they're trying to make it actually self sufficient based on cloud pricing.
It’s not just Alphabet it’s cloud based companies across the board and basically VC money is drying up because it can be secured on 0% interest loans anymore
Alphabet would be less impacted by interest rates or VC money since they're a megacorp. I'm curious if for them they are afraid of not being competitive enough if they get trust busted.
I'm wondering if they're looking for more money to dump in the AI war going on right now.
It's happening across a lot of industries, especially tech. During covid line went up very fast. Post-covid line stopped going up fast, but companies are desperate to keep it going up fast. Otherwise it would count as a slowdown in year-on-year growth and we can never ever have that (/s).
Companies then: Let's make money!
Companies now: Let's make more money faster! Our graph of profit must concave up!
Companies 100 years from now: Let's increase the rate at which the rate at which our growth in profit increases increases!
companies want to maximize profits
I'm expecting YT to be spun off/sold within a year or so.
I don't think it'll happen willingly. They don't want it to be a drain on their cloud business and they don't want it to use AWS either.
It's times like these when I'm glad I refused to even log into Google to view YouTube, let alone buy subscriptions. I also refuse to view downloading content (without logging in) that's freely available to be viewed as piracy.
These subscriptions are undoubtedly a rip-off. For those saying creators get a "cut", there's a reason why sites like Patreon exist. It's substantially better for creators if you subscribe to them directly that way and get your videos from Patreon. Same with Nebula etc. If I really had to pay then I'd do that (and do already for some stuff that was never on YouTube anyway).
You can get enough subs for the price of a YT premium to get plenty of content to watch, even if you don't want to subvert Google. So there's zero reason to throw money at them for this. None at all.
I am not saying I like YouTube, but they are actually one of the best when it comes to paying their creators.
Pretty much every popular creator from other platforms (like tiktok) goes to YouTube once they are big and want to earn money.
And yes of course they earn more on Patreon, but if I recall correctly most YouTubers get most of their money from YouTube, because they have their biggest audience.
De-monitisation is a pretty huge problem for many though.
I can't blame them. The fight to block adblockers is an expensive one, and they went all in on the fight. /s
Asshats.
E: adding the sarcasm mark, in case it wasn't obvious.
For reference this is about $20 USD
I did not pay attention and thought it was in USD already. Inwas shocked someone would pay nearly $40 a month.
Semi unrelated, but I had no idea that we started using only one strike through the dollar sign more frequently as of recent. I have always written it with 2 and am shook.
Probably because it's less noisy in small text
For now....
I'd pay $50 or maybe up to $80 usd a year. But $20 a month is insane. I'll just run blockers
Honestly, I'd be fine with even 20. Much more than that and I'd be questioning it pretty hard. I watch YouTube tons and know how goddamn expensive cloud bandwidth is so I'm biased
Nah, Google should be investing in new codecs for compression and trying to find other means to costs down.
I am spending less and less time in youtube and more time on the alternatives anyway.
Revanced project, smart YouTubeTV and/or Smart YouTubeNext, ublock origin, and xManager for Spotify.
I have an android phone and an android TV so I see no ads. However I have an iPad which I take away and the ads make me sad.
Is there any way to adblock YouTube on an iPad?
Safari has the hyperweb extension that does a pretty good job for me!
Edit: hyperweb does a bunch of stuff, eliminating youtube ads is only a fraction of this extension
Piped frontend via the browser
You can install Firefox on iOS, and install ublock origin
Edit: apparently not
You cannot
Firefox on iOS is just a reskinned safari, extensions are a no
oh damn, didn't know that. I just knew that Firefox was installable on iOS, and extensions work great on Android, so I'd assume it'd be the same. But you're right, apple locks browsers into using WebKit. That sucks
Late, but maybe nextdns. I haven't actually tried with YouTube on an iPhone/ipad, but I know they integrate pretty easily on Apple devices. Fairly customizable too with a free tier, just need to make a profile.
Won't block YouTube ads.
Hadn't heard of x manager, thank you! Super giddy right now, I've been using modded versions of the apk for years but a few months ago my go-to stopped working and haven't found a viable replacement until now. Really godda give them props I'm super surprised at how easy that was lol
Also I'd used revanced but quit when the original got buggy. With how crappy their ads have gotten now I'm going to give the new version a shot thanks for mentioning that as well
Enshittification of youtube is definitely progressing very rapidly.
People saying I'll cancel will not cancel. I've seen so many corp simps in the last few years that I lost faith in humanity
So many Google bootlickers in these threads these days
@blackbirdbiryani @yoz
I'm indelibly attached to Google and I hate it.
The power is in the hands of consumers and not the other way around. All we need to do is educate the consumers and see how fast google breaks.
I haven't seen any in this thread or any of the other social media conversations I have online.
Maybe I'm bubbled but everyone seems to be shitting on Google. Can you link me to 3-4 of these bootlicker comments please? I'm interested in what you're seeing
But it's on the internet, it must be true!
"I will never set foot in this shop again!!", a customer said to me when we couldn't refund her thing because she broke it and it was her fault.
A couple of days later...
All prices seem to be going up around the board. I just got an email saying my Turkish Family Plan (via VPN) is increasing from TRY ₺59.99 to TRY ₺115.99. That's $3.29 to $6.36.
I haven’t received the email but I guess I should expect that price hike. Thanks for the info
nearly double the price for the same thing! this after disney raised prices, max downgraded service and kept prices the same, and disney is about to finish buying out hulu in order to, I'm sure, raise prices. Yarr!
Personally, I'm a fan of
For those who must have the official paid version, keep an eye on Ozbargain Youtube.
Free trials and/or VPN + subscribe overseas for a fraction of the price, eg Individual has been $2.34 a month via India, A$2.30 via Turkey
(this is before any potential price increases in those countries)
Well... I guess it helps creators at least.
Unless youtube changes their cut
That's going into Google's pocket, not the creators'.
Why do Lemmy users spread lies?
That just says that they get paid better for subscriber views, I think the other comments were talking about the price increase and whether that would be reflected in their payouts.
YouTube pays a percentage from what I've read before, so it should
The fact that the poster is a prolific YouTube creator, so a primary source themselves.
They have a successful channel and are known for speaking out about whatever they have issues with.
It's the only channel on YouTube where you'll find a 3 hour video ranting about how a tea kettle works.
They receive a 2/3 cut
I understand that revenue from a premium user's view is much higher for a creator than from a free user, but how would a 2/3 split work? Do you mean that YouTube uses 2/3 of premium revenue to pay creators?
That's my understanding of it
I prefer paying to the creator through more direct means. If you pay through Patreon, the creator receives ~80% of what you send if they don't get charged VAT.
You watch a video and sit through the ad. The uploaded of the video gets a cut. That's common knowledge this point.
What is the benefit of "Youtube Premium", anyway? Is that just Youtube without ads?
And YouTube music
Well, the ads - I don't see any ads here, anyway, and this YT music is about paying for music that you don't own in the end, or am I mistaken?
It's the google alternative to Spotify, so yeah
YouTube without ads, and music in various guises.
I used Google Play Music all day, everyday. When it transitioned to YT Music I reluctantly followed, mostly due to the thousands of songs I'd uploaded from my own library.
For the family plan at $17.99/month for my wife and I it was a barely acceptable price to pay for ad free music, with the small bonus that when we watched something on YouTube it was ad free.
The proposed price is laughably high when 99% of our usage is background music at work. I'll be cancelling.
Does this mean that for people who don't pay they're going to make the ads twice as annoying?
Twice as frequent and half as skippable maybe.
It'll be like having visited a bad pornsite in the 90's and your screen will end up being ads stacked on top of ads.
Might be the end kf the platform if that actually happens, there's already an insufferable amount of ads as i keep getting these double ad blocks in a row.
Feels like they are shooting themselves in the foot. But, that's capitalism for you. Being predictably profitable is "not sustainable". Share holders want more. Which for some reason, I don't understand, directly leads to just a slightly worse money-grabbing product than what consumers are willing to pay. Rince, repeat, enshitification ensues.
I cancelled my Premium Lite yesterday (or rather, Google did, by no longer offering it). Installed the Revanced stuff. And suddenly, the YouTube app works much, much, better than when I paid for it.
Yea it's a pretty crazy increase. time to VPN up and move the family plan to india or turkey.
What are the downsides of buying a plan from another country?
They raise the price, and price out locals, of that country?
Nah google is doing that already, with or without the tiny percentage of people who seek to make their greed sting a bit less.
There's always the chance that your account gets blocked in some way, or perhaps even your payment processor flags it as fraudulent. so it is best to set up a new account entirely just in case.
Also, your music and some algorithm suggestions will get mixed up, but that tends to solve itself after a little while
We will own nothing, don't pay, sail the seas mate.
Heaps of corp simps out there mate.
Corp Simps or just don't know how to do anything else?
Lmao, that's not gonna fly with my wife.
The only reason I got premium is because she uses YouTube quite a bit and I'd rather pay than her having to deal with ads all day
Depends on the use case. This setup really is to continue watching channels your subscribed towards but theres no search.
You may want to look at invidious which is much more like an alternative front end with search and trending pages.
Sometimes though when people are comfortable with the present it is of course entirely valid to decide that paying up is the least stressfull, best solution for your family. But never hurts to know that alternatives do exist.
well unless she only uses an iphone, get ublock origin in the browser or newpipe on the phone, and cancel the subscription
She only uses an iPhone
What are you using to download videos? Youtube-dl hasn't updated in a couple years now and didn't seem to work anymore last I used it.
Not OP, but i use yt-dlp to great success.
I use tube archivist, has both Plex and jellyfin plugins
Why wouldn’t it be?
Its a youtube-dlp script that converts all videos into mp4 and puts them in a folder which is part of a Jellyfin library.
Its strangely actually the most stable way things get added to my jellyfin because of how consistent the output format is.
How do you deal with the increased storage usage of all the videos you download? Do you have some sort of auto delete after it's watched or after some about of time?
On pc jellyfin allows you to delete the media straight from within the webinterface so il usually delete videos after watching. But because i use the same server like a nass i do have some space for videos i do want to keep.
I am also rather picky on what goes on the list. Theres maybe 15 channels in their now, favorites i really don’t want to miss. I run a personal indivious client next to it with all my second tier and filler subscriptions.
Ah okay, how do you go about setting all this up?
Honestly if you have absolutely no idea then replicating my exact setup might be a bit steep.
Before i made the download script (which i can share if you ping me next week when i am back home) i already had a 24/7 Ubuntu server with docker running multiple containers like a small Minecraft server.
You could replicate much of what i did on windows and a not always online machine but it may take some extra steps to get working.
I also got much help from chatgpt-(4) the last year for all kinds of linux/docker/scripting questions, my total linux experience is less then 3 years.
I recommended to start of trying to host invidious, which on itself could already be a full experience without requiring local storage or scripts.
invidous selfhost installation guide (i use docker-compose)
For any questions regarding docker i continuing to highly recommend chatgpt but remember its quality is entirely dependent on your ability to recognize “makes sense” versus “dangerously derailed bullshit”
If you have this working then getting jellyfin to work in docker will be a breeze. Only step remaining would be using a script like mine to download the videos and save them in the library folder. And as mentioned once i am back home next week i’ll be happy to share it and explain further.
I haven't even setup my jellyfin service yet, because of lack of time (family and work).
But Iam very glad you took the time to write all this out, I'm currently looking to gathering as much knowledge as I can for the future.
I'll definitely write to you next week for the download script, if you want to share it
I didn’t buy it in the first place because it was too expensive, this only further cements my never buying it.
Happily had Spotify for over a decade now and no issues paying a reasonable price there.
I got the same email. I will be cancelling when the """grace period""" ends.
Change your VPN to turkey, login via incognito, buy premium for $4 a month. Price was just under $3 before raise.
November last year the plan in CAD went from $17.99 to $22.99 a month, I took that because.i get a lot of use out of it. I haven't got an email yet but $46 a month will get it cancelled.
We're talking about the family plan here, which gives you 5 individual accounts.
Yes, that's the plan I have.
Big dog over here flexing with having 4 friends to share with 🥲
Ha! I'm the opposite - I set up the service on our [email protected] account and we all share it! Our email says "we are increasing the YouTube Premium plan price to A$16.99/month" (from $9.99).
Funny thing is I've been toying with upgrading to the family plan, now that the kids music/youtube choices are starting to mess with my feeds. I have gone from thinking of going to $18/month to absolutely not thinking of $33/month.
I'll probably wear the price increase, because four of us use it. No way could I justify it if it were just me, though.
I was also on the grandfathered Google Play Music pricing and saw the same email for increasing the cost of the individual sub.
The pricing makes sense in that context, since now the family plan is just barely cheaper than two individual plans (whereas that wasn't the case before).
This'll be a tough call, given I use YTM almost daily, and watch a lot of Youtube besides.
5* to share, it's 6 total. I got my family and a cousin and a friend on it
It costs so much more to get the packets across the ocean, right?
Me too A REASONABLE price. 5$ no ads one account.
If it was 5 bucks I probably wouldn't block ads on my phone, but I won't stop on my desktop, as long as it's built into ublock origin. Just because every other site on the Internet sucks ass without it.
I'm never going to shed any tears for Google losing revenue, and I've got no issues with people using adblockers etc. That said, I think saying that not being able to understand why people pay for it risks being a bit narrow minded.
Paying for things that you use shouldn't be seen as some abherrent action. If you watch an hour of YouTube a day on average that's still less than a buck an hour even with the price hike. I imagine some folks also like the convenience of being able to just use the official aps without fucking around, particularly if they have iPhones.
Pay for premium, or watch ads, or get into the ad-avoidance arms race, or stop using YouTube. It doesn't bother me which one people choose. But this opinion that some folks seem to have that they are for some reason entitled to gratis, ad-free video streaming is so bizarre.
Indeed, and as I posted elsewhere these days I'm far less likely to buy into a product where it's not clear how money is being made as was the case for Youtube and the last decade. It's only been free and easily ad-blockable for this long because the Silicon Valley way is to make a product that really can't exist on it's own but survives due to the deep pockets of the company or VC until it dominates the market and then turn the screws. Tie this to the fact these are all publicly traded and there is never enough growth, and we get here.
This is why enshittification is suddenly top of mind for everyone. For the last couple of decades, we've been enjoying the fruits of this model and we're now reaching the part where everything has consolidated and the surviving companies start jacking up prices and so forth. Netflix, Uber, Amazon, Reddit, Google/Youtube, Instagram, Twitter, etc have all done this in one way or another.
Agreed, and further if a company today presented this as their model, I would be skeptical as hell and unlikely to even try the service.
That said, I'm not losing any tears for Google. I'm in the US so not subject to this price increase, and while I do pay for Premium and find a lot of value in the service, I wouldn't be able to tolerate a near doubling in price.
Those are some good points, and I think what you've highlighted is probably a part of the reason why so many people seem to have the "YouTube should be free" reaction. They literally cannot remember a time before VC money was paying for a lot of services on their behalf.
I agree. I don't watch YT often but when I do, I usually let the ads play for my favorite creators because I want them to get paid.
My favourite creators say "turn on adblock and if you can, support me on Patreon"
I watch a large, large amount of content on YouTube. For me, it's easily worth it, but I also have to mention that I used a VPN to subscribe in a country where the prices are cheaper, and most likely would not pay the "real" price.
This also means that I have no real idea about the current ad situation.
Still, I know how expensive hosting gets, and there are no real alternatives to Google. Amazon and Microsoft can do it, but even if they launch a service, they need creators on it, and, more importantly, they need users. YouTube had more than a decade to establish itself. Any new platform needs a few years to get users, and it will lose money every second of that time.
You have your smaller platforms, but they need to survive as well, and not everyone is willing to pay a monthly price to access it. Nebula lives as long as there are users willing to pay for it. Floatplane requires a subscription as well. Both platforms only host a limited number of creators.
In the video hosting business, unfortunately, there are no bad guys. I can understand why no one wants to watch the same 30 second long ads, 3-4 at a time, 2 times a video. I also understand the platforms that want to survive, and make a profit. Unfortunately, adblocks, as much as necessary, are the cause of the problem as well.
So it's not worth it. Gotcha.
We are a family of five who consume a lot of youtube, at home and on the go. I subscribed initially for YouTube Music, YouTube benefits were just an add on. I commute and there are areas with no phone coverage, so I liked the option to download videos offline (yes, I know there are 3rd party apps that can do that).
Now YT Music is the least used app, and a lot of YT is used on the TV. Sure, there are a bunch of alternative apps, VPNs, ad-blockers etc, and I could make it work. But I'm not sure my wife and kids will use them... Is there something that works on an Android TV?
I got the email telling me the price will change from 18€ to 24€/month, and I am still considering it...
on android you can use newpipe, and there's a sponsorblock version so it automatically skips in-video ads and such!
SmartTubeNext used to work, not sure if it still does
I watch like six+ hours of YouTube a day, even if it's on the side of a game or something, feel like I'm getting my moneys worth.
I'm all for paying for value but what are you getting? Especially if you're watching on a computer.
I mean, 6+ hours of video a day without ads, while actually supporting the creators I watch. I watch enough people I can't afford to give them all money on patreon or buy merch. I have youtube running like 50% of the time I'm home and awake, and after a decade of using ad block (because honestly, fuck ads), I figured it was about time I started paying for it.
There is an amount that I'll think is too much and I'll go back to my old ways, but I have a minimum wage job in a country where that means something so the fqct I'm now paying $17 a month instead of whatever it was before, like 13 I think, I'm not too bothered.
I also don't pay for other subscriptions because what youtube has is just better. Like cool, Netflix has movies and shit, but similar exists on youtube and a lot of creators make better content for me than most of what's on Netflix.
Apparently YouTube makes little to no money so of course they have to raise prices and go after ad blocker users. /s
Is it global? I didn't get it yet.
Read elsewhere that only certain countries are getting the hike, some got it before and some will probably get it in the future, I'm probably in the future category with one of the lowest prices in my country anyway.
Our buying power is so low they might lose all of us if they price hike.
Wow
For me it's 12€ for no ads, a music app and downloadable videos. I can't complain
I just get all 3 for free. I can't complain either
Good for you
Not every illness has its cure, but this one...
Alternatively, if the anti adblockers purges aren't targetting you
Imo you are fiscally irresponsible even if you paid the 17 bucks