YouTube's ‘War’ on Adblockers Shows How Google Controls the Internet
Google's anti-ad scripts are breaking browsers and privacy plugins. It could get worse because Google controls the ad market, Chrome, and the extension store.
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Still having 0 problems on Firefox with just Ublock Origin and adguard. Hopefully it stays that way
Are you logged in? Cause if not you don't get these popups.
I haven't logged out since they started this push and I don't get them with just Firefox/uBlock. I was getting them for a bit and they even blocked me completely at one point. But I just cleared my uBlock cache and updated and it's been working fine.
Yes I am. I even got the pop-ups for a couple days a week ago, but I just closed the pop ups and resumed the videos with no ads
I got those popups while not even being logged in at some points, but just purging the cache on uBlock filters seems to work.
Having Ublock Origin doesn't guarantee success, read this: https://lemmy.world/comment/4933251
Cool, well the next step will be to abandon the platform, then.
Having ublock origin set up properly pretty much guarantees success. If it doesn't work, go into the extension settings and clear the cache.
Same on OperaGX, zero issues with their Adblock+Ublock Origin.
Literally say I have uBO on so lol chill. It works fine so I see no need to swap. Been using opera since before it went chromium and it’s been fine so no real need to swap. Haven’t run into issues with being told to use chrome/edge I’ve seen people post on here, haven’t run into issues with having to update uBO or anything for it to work with YouTube so I’m fine. Plus workspaces and CPU/Internet limiters are nice.
I mean I don't really care if China has my data. Rather them than a US company. Not much china's government can do about me (and not like I'm gonna be some high priority target for them so, whatever. If they wanted my data that bad they could just buy it from every American company anyways. )
Understandable though if you don't want china having your data. I just have mostly given up on caring about it. Someone is gonna have my data anyways.
Its not the point of China having your data. Its the point of opera sells that data, and they have it in the first place
Not everyone cares so much about that.
Someone knowing things about me in general is not a big deal.
Don't fund their army with your data dude. Switch to some Firefox fork ASAP.
The problem is that it is chromium based, hence giving Google more power in deciding internet standards (like their web environment integrity API proposed a few months ago)
Also having zero problems here paying for it.
Paying isn't a bad idea if you want to do that.
Google creeping on your privacy and your right to view HTML the way you choose to is gross and violating.
These two ideologies don't have much overlap, and definitely can coexist separately.
Y'all have a strangely strong emotional reaction to me just informing you that paying for the product works well as well.
Sometimes you pay for a product and it’s not what you expected or it sucks.
Honestly, I think it's great: if it annoys people enough, they will move out from Chrome and install Firefox (or one of its forks) with good extensions for blocking ads on YouTube. It seems to be the only solution to break the monopoly of Google on browsers. So go Google, I believe in you!
Nah, most people are dumb, they will just continue to complain and assume there is nothing they can do.
Youre giving them too much credit. Most will just accept fate and deal with the ads.
Actually nevermind you're right. Dumb people never had an ad blocker on in the first place :D
Also there are people who continued to use IE before it got changed to Edge.
The key is "annoyed enough". I personally know many people who have never used adblockers and don't see why they're necessary.
And maybe more creators start using PeerTube as well...
It keeps breaking on FF too tho
Nope it doesn't. Mine works without any modifications but I heard that it happens occasionally. There are some easy steps to set up FF to work again, should be easy to look up.
I went through the instructions with the removing other extensions and resetting things and pasting filters etc. multiple times but it kept breaking, ended up switching to FreeTube. Maybe they've got it by now but I'm going to wait until it all shakes out more, too much hassle.
Plus if you read the article, you can't tell how it works overall just because it works for you, because YouTube is treating different groups of users differently here.
I had it pop up a couple times in Firefox, but it went away when I enabled the Annoyances filter in ublock settings. The videos just work now, no problem
The irony of this post being behind a paywall
It made me switch to Freetube
I'll add that ReVanced and FireFox + UBlock are working fine for me still, still need to install STN tho
I even recently dropped my Premium sub (when they ditched Pixel Pass) so I was kinda expecting retaliation for bailing on em but nothing so far
Is revanced annoying to build? I've been putting it off for that reason since AFAIK there is no manager for it
https://github dot com/ReVanced/revanced-manager
It's easy enough. You'll need to grab an apk for YouTube so ReVanced Manager can modify and install it. That's about it.
There's a better one than revanced, it's called grayjay
The only different thing about grayjay is the polycentric account instead of having your YouTube account other than that all the features are the same or even better. What is there not to understand.
Nvm on building revanced! There is Revanced Manager, a couple clicks now to download and install, no need to use grayjay now.
No pop-ups on NewPipe x Sponsorblock.
ublock origin works
NewPipe is a third party app, hence you don't get any popups. Doesn't mean YT can't do anything to stop you tho
Could they really do anything though? Newpipe directly scrapes the content, after all
My only issue with it is that it's slightly outdated, so I run BraveNewPipe: https://github.com/bravenewpipe/NewPipe/tree/v0.25.2-2.1.4
(It implements the same features while also adding support for some extra platforms)
So far a Firefox workaround seems to be copying the URL into a fresh private browser window.
It may not be enough to matter, but a not-insignificant number of users will simply abandon YouTube if this keeps up.
Having Ublock Origin doesn't guarantee success, read this: https://lemmy.world/comment/4933251
You're linking to one instance where it partially fixed the issue amidst a sea of people saying updating filters did work for them (or saying that they didn't have to do anything at all).
I’ve had no issues
Allready done. 😃 Some puts a YouTube link, I just scroll past. Can't be that important if it's on boobtube
Is…is boobtube a thing?
It sounds like it should be a thing
Modern day adaptation of a much older term.
Note: don't look up boobtube at work lol
Well well well, today I learned!
Trust me. I'm that old. 🤣
Or just use uBlock Origin? It blocks YouTube's ads (and their adblocker-blockers) right out of the gate. It's also available on Firefox for Android.
For the moment, Youtube is managing to push ads onto me despite uBO.
Have you followed the instructions in the devs' Reddit thread? (At the bottom of the thread, they also have a section of instructions for people who've already gone through the process of purging their filters before.)
Also, make sure nothing else (ex. another adblocker, including your browser's built-in adblocker) is causing issues.
It's too much of a pain to use for me personally. I really don't want to spend time figuring out which scripts to enable every time I visit a new site. Adblock I can just turn on and forget with minimum effort.
I have never had to touch anything on uBlock origin. Well, before this youtube stuff when I sometimes have to manually update a block list when YT gets a new adblocker blocker
I already use uBlock Origin. I haven't had any issues with it. I was replying to the person who said NoScript was better.
I never had to touch anything in uBlock Origin, not even once, I just have to remember to check for updates every now and then. I see some people saying sometimes they still get ads on youtube, not sure if it's youtube testing new targeting, but I've never seen ads on YT anyway, I guess I'm not interesting enough to them XD
Download Firefox. Look up "ublock origin firefox" in search engine of choice. Click install. Done!
It's that easy....
I was replying to the comment saying that NoScript was better...I already use uBlock.
Piped.video (on Firefox) works fine for me
Piped is so slow for me, I'm not sure if it's a me issue or a host issue. I finally spun up viewtube to test it out since running my own piped instance seemed cumbersome.
Same here. I tried loading the same 13-second video on Piped and YouTube. YouTube played it instantly. Piped took several seconds (probably longer than the video lasted) to start playing.
To be fair, Piped serves as a proxy, you're not getting the content served directly from YouTubes' servers
Yeah it works file for 720/1080p and no captions.
@JRepin, best combination is uBO + this one
https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/477725-youtube-iframe-adblocker