Trump Responds to Gag Order Reinstatement by Attacking Potential Witness
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Just jail the fat, mouthy fuck and let him talk to the walls.
"This is a great crowd here at the Atlantis Correctional Facility. You folks do some of the best underwater in terms of wetness....what's that? Atlanta? Atlanta, I mean. How about those Seahawks?"
Call it "Person woman man camera TV" and have those as the things he draws on the walls.
Now I want to see that Robot Chicken / SNL skit.
Make it somewhat like the SNL sketch, where we see what Trump is seeing, except this time, it's realistic, and only in the end, is it revealed that he was in prison all the time.
Title: Trump's Grand Show
Setting: A lavish TV studio set. Cameras flashing, audience clapping. There's a prominent desk with a shiny sign: "The Trump Hour".
Cast:
Trump (Baldwin): (Smiling, waving) "Welcome, everyone, to the greatest show on Earth - 'The Trump Hour'! Tremendous lineup tonight!"
Audience: (Loud applause)
Trump (Baldwin): "Our first guest tonight, a man of wisdom and knowledge, Eddie!"
Eddie: (Looking bewildered) "Uh... Thanks, Don. Happy to be... here?"
Trump (Baldwin): "Eddie, tell the people about our latest venture."
Eddie: (Hesitates) "You mean... the crayons?"
Trump (Baldwin): "The MAGA crayons, Eddie! The ones that let you draw your own reality!"
Eddie: (Nervously) "Right... Um, with these crayons, folks, you can... change the world?"
Trump (Baldwin): (Beaming) "Exactly! No more fake news! Draw your own stories!"
Audience: (Cheering)
Trump (Baldwin): "Now, for a special segment. Tweets of the week!" (Takes out a piece of paper) "Ahem. 'Just had the most tremendous steak in Shawshank. Best ever!'"
Eddie: (Whispering) "That was gruel, Don."
Trump (Baldwin): (Ignoring Eddie) "And another one: 'Huge rally in Cell Block C. Tremendous crowd!'"
Eddie: "That was lunchtime..."
Trump (Baldwin): "Moving on! Our musical guest, the Shawshank Shakers!" (No music plays, just the sound of distant clanging)
Suddenly, the studio starts to shake, and the illusion starts to crack. The lavish set fades, replaced by cold, gray walls. The audience becomes rows of empty beds, the TV crew transforms into prison guards.
Guard: "Lights out, Trump!"
Eddie: (Sighing) "Every night..."
Trump (Baldwin): (Holding his crayon, looking around the prison cell) "They loved me, Eddie. Did you see that crowd?"
Eddie: "Goodnight, Don."
End.
Very nice. 😀 👍
That’s an unparalleled writing prompt, could go in several directions. Noice.
I'd like to read it when you're finished.
And then pretend the drawn audience is asking him while he wants to run for president of the cell block in that prison since he had already been disqualified for POTUS by Amendment 14, section 3.
I get that gradually tightening the screws and doing this extremely methodically will ultimately end up with the most amenable outcome. This is a fundamental test of our legal system and it has to be followed to the letter for it to work.
That being said that's pretty fucking small comfort to a country that jails people for decades for possessing a plant that is legal in many states and yet won't hold accountable a man who we witnessed stirring up a mob to attack the fucking captial building on live television. He's a cult leader that is given a chance to speak on a national media stage again stirring up his base until they storm the capital again.
More severe penalties is still following the legal system. I completely agree that it should all be by the book, but letting him flout the law with minimal repurcuasions undermines the law, not strengthens it.
As you say, there should be equivalency in justice, otherwise it's unjust.
Hitler served 9 months of a 5 year sentence, and wrote mein kampf in jail. Its not over yet, my friend.
True, but Trump is old. It's not over, but it likely is for Trump. Someone else will be waiting to take his place though.
Do you think the country that allows slavery and legalized bribery will make the right choice in terms of justice? The world isn't holding its breath.
Put this fucker in jail for contempt. Someone really needs to get a pair of balls. WTF!
Want to know what's the first thing you should not do when getting a gag order? Eliminate plausible deniability that you saw said gag order and then violate it.
And then admit he can't defend himself without verbally attacking everyone in sight
He's so fucking stupid it hurts to watch
If stupid works why change, the guy stupided his way into the white house, stupided his entire life into getting away with countless crimes and potentially will stupid his way back to the white house. Seems pretty smart to be stupid in his situation
And yet he keeps getting away with it.
He's pushing the limits because he's never been held accountable for anything in his life or had to deal with serious consequences. If anything, getting in trouble for this now will just make all the MAGAts even more fanatical and say that he's being targeted by the system, it's a political hit-job, blah blah blah. He should've been locked up a long time ago, but the next best time is today.
If you somehow managed to reach into a beehive multiple times without being stung you'd probably think you'll never be stung. It shows why the law can't ignore white collar crimes, you get people like Trump who have never faced real consequences for their actions. I'm pretty sure it's compunded by his narcissism but then you get into sensitive situations because now he's a public figure. Trump should never have been a sensitive situation for the law, he's a criminal and has always been one but they're treating him softer than someone in traffic court where the ticketing officer isn't even there.
Can't jail rich people. That is why fines exist. Once we fine him enough, he becomes poor people, and you can put poor people in jail.
They better step those fines up then.
How many times do you have to fine someone worth 9 figures a 5 figure amount to make them worth 5 figures?
He is not working 9 figures.
He's worthless
PUT. HIM. IN. A. CELL.
...WITHOUT. HIS. CELLPHONE.
Give him one of those toy ones you give to infants and see if he notices
I wonder if all the judges can cooperate on fines. So this judge can say "You pissed off the other judge twice and he doubled your fine? Well I'll double his fine!" It won't take for him to get to 1,280,000
Absolutely. Doesn't even need cooperation. His previous violations will be available to the current judge, as well as previous sanctions. They absolutely can and should take that into account.
They sure as fuck consider priors when dealing with normal people.
Watch congress pass a law making fines illegal for him.
Third violation. Lock him up.
you cannot put him in jail it is not possible
Does he not fit?
He would die from hamberder and diet coke withdrawal.
He has a doctors note.
Why
Those fines are insultingly small. But putting him in jail would only make him more of a martyr. The law is still struggling to cope with this man.
And...just do it. They are setting a message that if rich = immune to punishment.
Sadly, all this is doing is acknowledging the truth we already knew.
Tbf that’s been the message my whole life.
He's hardly the first rich American to escape justice if he continues to do so. Rich folk in America have literally gotten away with murder. (OJ for one)
He makes a terrible martyr, though.
He just won’t shut up! Martyrs are supposed to be dead. You ever hear a dead guy blabber?
If Trump was martyred half the MAGAs would insist he's alive and another half will insist he's going to come back some day. The former will point to AI deepfakes created by Russia as proof, and will declare a holy war on the other half. Eventually the problem will solve itself.
Eh. You given them more credit.
Pretty sure they’re not competent enough to get the job done,
That's the important thing to note here. They are not trying to get the job done, they are trying to ensure that nobody can get the job done, the one thing morons excel at.
OC was suggesting relying on MAGA to split into a civil war and exterminate themselves... you just laid out the argument for why they won't manage to do that.
I either read this incorrectly or read something else and replied to the wrong thread, you right.
I could care less if the morons see him as a martyr and rise the fuck up. Fucking let them. At this point I'd rather they get gunned down in a blaze of glory than let them silently breed and plan the next fucking coup. Fuck Trump supporters and any who sympathize.
But it does matter. Maybe not to you directly, but the January 6th treason attack was a direct result of his influence. Obviously people who follow him are massive bell ends, but they still matter and they still vote. America's democracy is far from perfect, and has definitely struggled to cope over the past few years, but it put him in the most powerful position in the world for four years and despite all the evidence, enough people are still supporting him that a second term still can't be ruled out.
It beggars belief, it really does, but you really should care about it and a single person being a martyr has historically changed the world.
That didn't take long...
There we go. Obvious violations of the gag order. He'll see consequences at the heat death of the universe.
One violation, I think - Bill Barr. Both of the judges who have put in gag orders have specifically excluded themselves from being covered by the gag orders.
Thankfully, I have handy a document to review.
She may have said something different from the bench to clarify this, but she could fall under the emphasized point three. The Court is one entity, the Judge is another entity, which serves the Court.
I've been listening to a couple legal podcasts, and they've both said they don't think the judges are covered by the orders.
Let’s just sew his mouth shut so I don’t have to keep hearing about this piece of shit traitorous fuckbag
I assume this is just going to continue escalating, and I'm really curious to see what the supreme court will respond to this when it inevitably reaches them. Will they allow their fellow judges to be bullied and harassed, discrediting themselves in the process, or finally squeeze this necrotic orange.
Of course Trump would.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Judge Tanya Chutkan reinstated a gag order on Sunday night barring former President Donald Trump from attacking court staff, potential witnesses, and members of the prosecution team in the federal case against him for allegedly working to overturn the results of the 2020 election.
Trump responded by attacking Attorney General Bill Barr, a potential witness in the case, while continuing his public assault on Chutkan.
While Chutkan has yet to respond to the posts, she would not be the first Judge overseeing a Trump case to level penalties against the former president for violating court-ordered restrictions on his public statements.
Trump has already been fined twice, and threatened with jail, for violating a separate gag order imposed in New York’s civil fraud case against the former president.
Judge Arthur Engoron fined Trump a total of $15,000 last week, accusing him of violating an order barring him from attacking court staff.
Engoron first slapped Trump with a $5,000 penalty and threatened to revoke his bail after the former president failed to delete a copy of the Truth Social post attacking his clerk from his campaign website.
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Don’t threaten. Do! He has demonstrated that he is a danger to everyone involved in this case.
Exactly. I dunno what it's gonna take, short of one of these judges, their staff, witnesses, or jurors getting outright killed, for someone to finally realize "oh he's actually trying to raise enough hell to get someone to make us go away".
Sounds like this is just going to continue escalating until the judge decides to throw the necrotic orange asshole in prison and lock him up.
Where are the consequences? He continually breaks all these orders and nothing is happening.