2023 Mexico City Grand Prix - [RACE] discussion thread
ROUND 20: Mexico 🇲🇽
FORMULA 1 GRAN PREMIO DE LA CIUDAD DE MÉXICO 2023
Circuit stats
- First Grand Prix: 1963
- Number of laps: 71
- Circuit Length: 4.304 km
- Race Distance: 305.354 km
- Lap record: 1:17.774 Valtteri Bottas (2021)
- 2022 winner: Max Verstappen
Sigh, Yuki. That prob would've been best finish for AT. Both Top 10. And now he's down in 16.
That would've been driver of the day for me too. From 19th to 8th in the first half of the race. He needs to make fewer mistakes like these. Then again, I guess he hasn't had much experience with a car that can overtake others.
Admittedly, he did get lucky with the red flag. Free pit stop from old hards to new.
end plate breaks off immediately
Actual Kings of comedy in ferrari
To be fair, Leclerc has been having more speed without the endplate!
Ye, the should have removed the front wing entirely for weight gains 😃
♪ RETURN OF THE MARIACHI THEME! ♪
Best version of the F1 theme.
Bruh, the Redbull mechanics were looking at perez as if they knew the dude is out lmfao
That was my feeling too. "Get out, you're blocking our view of the screen".
Did we just witness the return of question, question?
I am not sure, do you think so, question?
Seems like it. If they got a chance to win, they want to blame the drivers for potential strategy mistakes.
Stop inventing, stop inventing
Perez playing the short game.
Perez forgot he's driving a real race and not a F1 23 multiplayer race.
Turned right into the side of a Ferrari...
YUKI NOOOOOOOO GOD DAMNIT
He needs to make fewer mistakes. He had such an incredible recovery until then, probably would've been right behind Ricciardo. I guess he doesn't really have enough experience overtaking other cars given how crap his car has been until this race.
He should have been more patient I suppose. But thats easy for me to say, im crap at sim racing
What happened? :(
He did a Perez :(
I'm really surprised at how well the mediums are holding on.
Lap 69 and HAM is increasing the gap to the hard LEC behind him.
Ferrari was managing heat as I understand. A lot of lift and coast for them. But the mediums were great still, ham got FL at the end 😲
Checo is losing me. I don’t know if I can keep doing this. Get your shit together man
I think today was the day he blew it with Red Bull.
And Danny Ric's performance just makes it even worse for him. At this point I would be amazed if Checo is in a Red Bull (F1 car) next year
RB dont need someone to win races, they just need someone who can qualify well, not make stupid mistakes and finish 2nd-3rd behind Max
Yep. I think that’s right on point. And if Danny podiums today, I think he’s in the second RB seat next year.
Even if he doesn't get on the podium he'll still be finishing 71 laps ahead of Perez. That counts, too.
Prediction, Danny Ric on podium after ferrari puts leclerc on used softs
Stop it, you're getting my hopes up!
Nah, he'll think he's back in 2018 and crash into Verstappen. Or at least that seems more likely than Ric finishing in the top 3. A top 10 finish should be doable though.
Absolute masterclass by Norris holy fucking shit
That Horner/Checo chat needs a caption competition
"So, Checo, how would you rate your performance today?"
"No Checo, it's alright. You'll still get to drive the AT next year "
That was some F1 23 level shit there Checo.
I am happy for Danny. What a great race. Lets go!
Charles post-race interview: "I'm sorry, I'm sorry, that wasn't my fault with Checo! I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Don't hurt me!!"
Ferrari: Mediums will be slower than Hards in 5 laps
Narrator: But that wasn't true..
They were all of them deceived...
For another tyre was made.
Max pit under SC? he has to, 21 second lead, cannot waste that
edit: yup
This worked out absolutely perfect for Max, especially as he was the only one with two new sets of hards
If this gives us a second standing start he might be less than thrilled. But, he seems to have the starts well in hand, too.
With the red flag, that's no longer true. Free repairs for Lec and less optimal position on that long straight with a danger of crashes.
Though I'm worried for Ricciardo losing position with the restart.
yeh, the red flag quickly undid the benefit
God, I want Danny to hold on to that 4th, but there is no way in hell that Alpha Tauri can beat a Mercedes... right? I NEED SOME FUCKING COPIUM
Job well done hanging on to 4th for as long as he has, though.
Ocon lmao what kind of radio message was that
Well that was as predictable as the sun rising and setting.
I completely failed to predict Checo's stupidity though
GOD FUCKING DAMN AGHHHH
anyways, nice move Lando it was a juice one
Oh Yuki, patience! You would've had him sooner or later.
I think that is his main problem now. He hasn't really had a car that can keep up and overtake with cars until now and he clearly lacks experience in overtaking.
I feel like Max pitted early just so he could pass some people
He's about to overtake Sainz, again. Already.
That was never going to work.
RIC in red bull next year
The mediums will die in the end, I think mercedes risk didn't pay off
Merc have bet on Ferrari having higher than average deg, if Ferrari don't start reeling them in soon they be right
I can see that, lets see if it works out for them
If he could have proven he could keep a cool head he might have strengthened his case but this is just dumb. He just needed to cede second, overtaken in the next laps and cruised to second for a crowd that would have adored him.
So damn unnecessary and dumb. Apart from his contract he still needs to keep second place.
Osama bin Russell i swear to god if you take out riccardo im going to say something very not nice
Did Russell fuck his tyres? He has been slow compared to what Hamilton has managed.
He needed another lap.. damn.
If Danny can climb to 4th, I'm going to actually lose it
Sainz puncturing after driving over Charles' end plate under VSC would have been the crowning glory.
thankfully we have avoided that fiasco :D
Holy shit what a bad crash for KMag. Glad he's out.
Leclerc will need armed escort out of Mexico, no matter if it was his fault or not
For once I agree with all 3 drivers who are in the lead for driver of the day. That last move by Norris was chef's kiss.
Did Sargent just box a lap early?
He had an issue and had to retire. Bummer for him, he was doing pretty well.
Was that a bit of lando's car falling off on that curb?
No McLaren, leave Danny alone.
Probably broke on last lap, before he run wide last turn.
Yea crash looked pretty bad
Oof. DNF at home race.
Could also have not gone any worse for Ferrari, as expected.
With the Mercedes cars on the medium it seems Ricciardo could end up fourth, with Yuki maybe fifth or sixth considering Piastri is also on mediums.
Mhm, far from impossible. Fingers crossed.
bye Perez
Fucking Hell Checo...
Leclerc was the easy part Lewis
3 wide is always difficult and not really a specific fault here, but reflects overall poorly on Perez yet again.
It reflects insecurity and overeagerness. His car is faster in the race and even if he couldn't overtake a podium is nice result for him. Both PR wise and in the standings.
It would prove his team boss isn't delusional when he argues that Checo's seat is safe.
Is Stroll trying to get his dad to fire him?
Lance has seemingly been trying to escape his racing career for some time now.
He's after the Red Bull seat :')
That was almost an awesome pass, bottas at fault
Is plan A for Charles another: Adventure, choose your own, question, situation?
Ooof, that's a pretty big one.
All the cars running mediums mean that we have more pitstops in this race. This may get interesting.
Verstappen was complaining about his mediums even before lap 20. So those guys with used medium tyres now might be forced to stop soon after the restart, losing lots of positions due to tight traffic.
Rear left puncture? Or did the suspension give in? Maybe the brakes even.
Suspension gave up, it looked like to me..
Sky said suspension failure, probably caused by his off on the pit straight earlier
Makes sense.
You could see it on the replay, the rear left broke off as he turned right - was pointing backwards
Must've missed the replay, will surely be in the highlights.
https://lemmy.world/post/7511832
HOLY FUCK
226 point lead on his teammate, and 2nd place. Max had been unbelievable this season.
What are we expecting for race restart? Max keeping P1?
It a standing start so can be a replay of lap1.
Yeap, but hard tires might make it a bit more exciting.
Who will be the filling of the sandwich?
I'm personally rooting for Max to keep P1 but I think Hamilton can slipstream to p1 like Verstappen himself did.
I suspect Russell will go bowling and Tsunoda will overtake Ricciardo.
Edit: shows what I know.
Boring race so far
We need more Gunter this season, we've barely heard from him.
Perez is trying everything he can to hold on to his seat, I guess. That move was never going to happen, not in a million years
Man, George's tyres are shot
So two sprint races essentially. Should be a good restart to shake up the order.
Vote for your Formula 1 Gran Premio de la Ciudad de Mexico 2023 Driver of the Day
went Danny Ric
He has not done anything except pretty much maintain position, but, that's exactly what AT would have hoped for
And thats all RB would want from him next year
yeah, Norris did some great overtakes and had awesome pace, but I had to give it to Ricciardo for bringing in the points
I’m angry so I voted Checo.
Come on Danny!
What was that chained gorilla statue in the crowd?
Russell, you pussy, just shut up and drive lmao
That's a safety car.
Danny Ric needs to find that 3/10th on Sainz from somewhere to get himself some DRS
look the race is fun again
Plan A for Ferrari feels like a loooooong time ago.
Yeah, considering the filing cabinet full of plans they usually have, they should get cracking.
They should lean into the reputation and pick random letters. I want to see a plan Z
It's 15 more laps, even if they do manage to get ricciardo, how are they planning to hold it?
EDIT: I stand corrected
Hulk more than 10 seconds down on Russell. The Hass really isn't great on race pace.
Norris back down to 15th ☹️
Bad decision for Norris and Albon. Was an obvious red flag situation imo.
Norris only lost 2 places - possibly better to definitely get new tires cheaply - imagine what we would have been saying if they just left it as a safety car
Just with the history of races where the Tecpro was dislodged, it was highly likely that it was going to get red flagged.
They played the Mariachi version of the F1 theme wooooooohooooo
I was trying to quit the bias of the Sky Sports casters and tried to watch it with F1 TV commentary, but the american/canadian accent really ruins the experience, uff
Does anyone watching Sky know what happened to Martin Brundle? Seems like an unexpected change based on how the presenters are handling it
NVM he's in the commentary box but in the grid walk they referenced Martin being missing
He's in business now, at least?
Yep! I was wondering if Crofty would need to do the whole thing solo for a moment there!
Does anyone know if Aston are running the new or the old package?
Alonso should be running the new one. At least that was mentioned in the grid walk on F1TV.
Ah, Ty.
Maybe that's why stroll is faster this week - really strange
Old, I think? They reverted Alonso's car in Austin and Stroll's car here.
Alonso is on the new package from Austin, Stroll is back on Qatar spec which is why he started from the pit lane.
Inverse of last week where Stroll was on the new package and Alonso was on Qatar spec.
No mariachi theme is the first dissapointment of today. :-(
The music is on now during the starting grid rundown
Yeah, it's good to hear. Shame they didn't start the broadcast with it still though.
There it is!
I wonder if the one stop will work out for Ferrari...
Max is on track to get the second stop for "free", compared to the Ferraris.
nah, they will pit Charles with 2 to go to go for the fastest lap, and one of the tyres will get stuck...
Splitting the strategy would be a good bet I think, looking at how the people who pitted are doing.
So far the hards seem to be working well.
Pit him already, Alpha. I swear to god, man