Spyke
PunnyNamereply
lemmy.world

It's the for-profit way, baby!

*cries in corner with lower back pain*

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Aye glad your back pain is decreasing :)

Wait... :(

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Just throwing out there that my lower back pain (and pretty much all the other achy bullshit) cleared up when I started lifting weights. Obviously I don't know anything about your situation so if that's not an option for you to try I hope you can find another solution.

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Seems to make a lot of people sad. And angry. And broke.

Yet...somehow...we can't get this fixed.

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Yeah, but if you're rich you can cut in line. Won't anyone think of the rich???

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Had to go for a lung function test recently at the hospital - blew air into a tube for 5 minutes and the bill was $1,600 after insurance 😭

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kbin.social

It's amazing how many Americans think we pay more for having the best medical system in the world, instead of the fact that we pay considerably more for an at-best mediocre system by the standards of the industrialized world.

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PunnyNamereply
lemmy.world

It's amazing for the rich, and career politicians. Just not us plebs.

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metaStaticreply
kbin.social

but one day I might be rich and then people like me better watch out

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lemmy.ca

It helps offset the costs of healthcare in the rest of the world

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Affidavitreply
aussie.zone

Miracle drugs like penicillin, insulin, and salbutamol that have saved millions of lives were all discovered/purified outside the US. Still, I expect the US charges more for each of these drugs than the countries that actually developed them.

The 'Americans are martyrs' idea of the silly cost of the US system doesn't hold water. The pharmaceutical companies are just greedy, and politicians are in their pockets.

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lemmy.world

Thats so sad. Not a knock or anything, but free healthcare is amazing and Americans (along with the rest of the world) deserve better.

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Frankly, I question if we do. Many, even most of us do, but a significant portion of this country appreciates that this shit is out of control and still goes to the polls every November to vote for Republicans. Because they value their hatred more than they value their health.

That's how fucking broken the population of this nation is.

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TheOakTreereply
lemm.ee

So the price without health insurance would have been anywhere between $40-100k, probably.

Ouch

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blue9yunreply
lemmy.world

It can be <$6,000 cash and I wouldn't be surprised.

This is the figure I once heard:

Delivering a baby with awesome health care plan: $12,000, you pay $2,000 (of course you pay more monthly for having this plan)

With mediocre health care plan: $8,000 and you pay $3,000

Without health care plan: $4,000 and you pay all of it.

The same $4,000 care is priced based on how much money they can get from you (or your plan)

Same delivery

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moistclumpreply
lemmy.world

How do poor people afford to have babies? Double whammy given the statistically higher number of babies and limited birth control options for lower incomes.

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Oh ho, just wait till you hear about the costs of raising a child!

but seriously, that's a good question, and I have no idea 🙃

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moodyreply
lemmings.world

Actually, without insurance, it may be cheaper. Costs are massively inflated because it's expected that the insurance company will negotiate it down. If you have no insurance, they will probably bill you a more "reasonable" rate.

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I was speaking more of the billed cost before we're expected to beg the hospital to be lenient so we don't get financially destroyed.

I was born at a hospital that couldn't charge my parents much because they barely had money to their names - through the same process.

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Had my gallbladder removed in February, and pancreatitis 2 weeks ago. Spend a total of 3 days in the hospital. Total cost is 500 euro own risk. And 15 euros in parking.

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lemmy.world

Have uveitis. Multiple times. Tons of blood work. 5 different machines. Multiple eye scans. Three different medications, one has to be taken every hour. Seeing a bunch of specialists. Had to go to emergency multiple times.

About $150 total (all for medication).

It's good to be a Canadian.

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sh.itjust.works

I would love a detailed analysis of what this would look like in the US. My gut impulse is tens of thousands. Anyone know?

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Am ophthalmologist in USA. Treat uveitis regularly. The two drops I routinely recommend are prednisolone and atropine, which can be bought for under $50 via Goodrx (don't get me started). The retina scan cash price at my office is $40. The basic eye exam fee is $112 for a new patient with dilation. Not sure what other testing they required.

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The Fiji one is $2800 + tax per night for the single room villa.

Looking up some rooms in the UK, they stop showing prices above about £4k/night and change the "select" button to "enquire".

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Just had a random medical event that could have resulted in heart failure where I was in the hospital for a week. Major surgery included before insurance was 210,000$ lol

Still waiting to see what insurance denies coverage of

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That's sad, but true. The system works because voters keep voting for the wrong party, time and time again.

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