Elon Musk, Tucker Carlson, Jim Jordan, McCarthy, Dinesh D’Souza, Donald Trump, Jordan Peterson, “endwokeness” - wonderful influences for a fucked up man-child.
I would assume that they retain the data and are just hiding it from public view. That way they can fulfill one of their organizational goals, trying to prevent useful or accurate information from reaching the public, but still have the ability to respond to a subpoena.
I used to work for a company with a product for putting a legal hold on people’s accounts. It archived the data off to a safe place, with a signature so you can tell it wasn’t tampered with. By default, it kept things six months, but as soon as it ran, you’re free to delete the public copy
Every social media for as long as I can remember removes the profiles of mass shooters. Youtube does it, twitter used to do it, facebook does it, etc. Do you really think the fbi wouldn't be able to get the data because an account was removed from the platform? use your brain people
I know it’s absurd. Even if I had proof of something illegal, I have zero authority to do anything about it. I’m just venting because I’m annoyed, and I’m sick of Musk’s constant bullshit.
It helps establish a motive for the killer, which is very important in a court of law. Knowing why someone did something affects sentencing, for example.
Here's a fun read for you: functional illiteracy. It's the phenomenon whereby a person is capable of "reading", as in sounding out words, but functionally incapable of extracting meaning from them beyond the painfully obvious.
I have the opposite happen to me with Chinese, like I know 危高电压 means "danger high electric pressure (voltage)", but have no idea how to sound it out. Dysfunctional literacy? 😄
that scene from The Boys when the guy gets radicalized through online and TV sources to ultimately end up killing someone only for the exact people who encouraged that shit to distance themselves from the situation rapidly is so well done and probably flew right fucking over the head of most republican voters who watch that show
They know they have to stay mask on, no matter what.
They tried the whole "haha, we were nazis all along!" thing with the tiki torches and Unite the Right rally. They lost their jobs, families and the platform they'd built out of plausible deniability.
You could catch them dressed as Hitler, with a hand written copy of Elders of Zion, in the middle of lynching a jew, and they'd still claim "the left just calls everyone who disagrees with them a Nazi".
Same reason he skipped out of South Africa before the SADF conscripted him into the Apartheid war machine... him and his ilk believe the dirty and bloody work is beneath them.
Its hard to touch billionaires until they are directly involved. Example-trump otherwise nothing going to happen, his lawyers will deal with it. He won't even know that FBI knocked on his door.
It's not hard Musk has committed a lot of crimes as well the DOJ has always just been cowardly conservatives or moderates afraid to touch their fellow fascists.
i'm saying it is not atypical by any means for a social media platform to remove profiles of mass shooters. for as long as I can remember, every single time it happens and their social media is found, and it's subsequently removed. i know this sub is dedicated to hating Musk but you just look stupid when you spin narratives like this. People in this thread are calling for his arrest over it saying that he's hiding evidence of a crime.
Facebook does the same thing, and it doesn't hide evidence because banning someone's account doesn't remove their profile's data. It's still there for foi requests, warrants, and subpoenas. These social media companies aren't gonna host a mass shooter's profile. It's like how they banned Trump, that wasn't "hiding evidence," and it's likely if you hate Elon you were also loving that Twitter banned Trump.
Arguably analyzing such profiles would likely show that nearly all nowadays are at least in part radicalized via social media. Turns out if you rattle millions of grenades a few explode.
What is evidence?! I'll just pout like a child and call the system rigged rather than look at my own wrong doing! What is this shit?! Who makes these decisions?!
Mass shooting events like the one that happened July 4 near Chicago typically set off an-all-too-common chain of procedures at tech companies: unearth the attacker’s online presence, capture possibly incriminating posts and quickly shut their accounts.
proof that it's a common procedure to do exactly this across pretty much all social media platforms. interested to hear what sort of stupid shit you have to say back to this.
That describes America perfectly, and both can be true. People who knew him have voiced concerns for his mental health and that it was a complete surprise to them. Coming up with hypothetical reasons to ignore that information seems to venture in to less likely territory.
When crimes are politically convenient people always want to discount mental health as a factor, and on the other hand will acknowledge a mental health crisis and the politics around that.
If you have API access, just a matter of the right query for all public info. It’s how statistics analysis on Twitter are done by universities etc, at least before he made API access too expensive for them.
Resist_05 looks maybe like a disinformation amplifying account, follows dom lucre and that antisemitic warmonitors account, etc.
If the account is set to public, then yes, pretty much everything available except DMs. If you have it set to private, then no, at least not from the public APIs.
That's fucked up. It's not that different from leaving your browser history for the world to see when there are jokes about taking browser history to the grave.
fyi, unless something has changed (and anyone feel free to correct or update me), Mastodon is every bit as open. Last I checked, DMs aren’t even as private as on Twitter, and it’s recommended to use DMs only as a less-public direct message, and not use it for anything private that you wouldn’t want to risk getting leaked anywhere.
If you use your public tweets like a private diary you're going to have a bad time. If this hypothetical person is ashamed of their deviant sex behaviors, don't use Twitter.
Hell the privacy minded even say an incognito browser is still not very private.
But to claim your Twitter history is private is a bit of a stretch.
That said I don't use Twitter so do people use it like a diary?
the shocking things isn’t so much that it’s not private per se: we expect twitter to see everything we do and “personalise our experience”… we don’t expect arbitrary people to be able to
Well it's not a matter of just this guy, but also normal people who aren't criminals, extremists, or politicians. While still awful, it's one thing to use that info for profit by giving other companies access to it. It's another thing to make it accessible to just about anyone.
That said I don’t use Twitter so do people use it like a diary?
I don't think which accounts or statuses someone has viewed/visited is public information. This is just a list of likes the account had, right? (Which is public and anyone can see without API access).
This is making me wonder if he scrubbed the account not only because Elon was viewed so much, but because he had recommended that warmonitors account before deleting the post, and probably many of the others. So guilt by association as well.
Here is the problem I see- you make this news and maga will immediately turn it into a deep state/antifai/Soros/FBI false flag operation.
Maybe they have already, i stay out of that nonsense these days. You just can't change these people's minds as easy as they can be programmed by right wing media.
Pretty obvious what this guy was listening to and I'm sad for the families that have to deal with his bullshit actions. I can't even imagine being gunned down just bowling with friends. We can't ignore the RW media's role in this.
We are still waiting for that Trans shooter's manifesto that was never released. We have enough actual instances of Tom fuckery woth the government that we don't need to make more
The trans shooter manifesto will probably never be released, it's probably deeply personal and about the abuses he sufferred at the hands of some predator at that school, i don't get why that's somehow a cover up?
Whomever he clicked on shows up, so benign accounts are in there, but are definitely the minority. I feel bad for Billy2K, all he did was make dogecoin as a joke that spun out of his control.
Elon Musk, Tucker Carlson, Jim Jordan, McCarthy, Dinesh D’Souza, Donald Trump, Jordan Peterson, “endwokeness” - wonderful influences for a fucked up man-child.
Reactionary right figures inspiring stochastic terrorism? Say it ain't so!
You can keep going… Charlie Kirk, Benny Johnson, Hodge Twins and f*cking catturd
edit: oh and Robert Kennedy Jr, I totally missed him until now, that’s great
Dude was 40 years old. Man-child, not a kid.
Missed that. Thx - edited
Kid? Isn't he like 40?
Yes, but like a proud boy 40.
He went full boomer
He's likely when they catch him.
My bad. I didn’t catch that.
Destroying evidence is a crime. Put the fucker in prison.
I would assume that they retain the data and are just hiding it from public view. That way they can fulfill one of their organizational goals, trying to prevent useful or accurate information from reaching the public, but still have the ability to respond to a subpoena.
I feel like I should laugh at this, yet not.
I wonder if subpoenas get the poop emoji back when they are sent to Twitter.
Also, it had to actually be evidence of a crime. Following Elon may be a bad-look association but it's not likely related to any crimes
You might be right, but trying to apply logic and reason to Musk’s behavior is always a gamble.
I used to work for a company with a product for putting a legal hold on people’s accounts. It archived the data off to a safe place, with a signature so you can tell it wasn’t tampered with. By default, it kept things six months, but as soon as it ran, you’re free to delete the public copy
Every social media for as long as I can remember removes the profiles of mass shooters. Youtube does it, twitter used to do it, facebook does it, etc. Do you really think the fbi wouldn't be able to get the data because an account was removed from the platform? use your brain people
That's a bit absurd. In what way is this evidence? Evidence of what crime?
I know it’s absurd. Even if I had proof of something illegal, I have zero authority to do anything about it. I’m just venting because I’m annoyed, and I’m sick of Musk’s constant bullshit.
It helps establish a motive for the killer, which is very important in a court of law. Knowing why someone did something affects sentencing, for example.
Are you illiterate?
Wonder how many illiterate people know the word "illiterate"... 🤔
Here's a fun read for you: functional illiteracy. It's the phenomenon whereby a person is capable of "reading", as in sounding out words, but functionally incapable of extracting meaning from them beyond the painfully obvious.
I have the opposite happen to me with Chinese, like I know 危高电压 means "danger high electric pressure (voltage)", but have no idea how to sound it out. Dysfunctional literacy? 😄
Haha, I think that's usually just called "learning a language from books". My magyar (Hungarian) suffers from a similar issue.
that scene from The Boys when the guy gets radicalized through online and TV sources to ultimately end up killing someone only for the exact people who encouraged that shit to distance themselves from the situation rapidly is so well done and probably flew right fucking over the head of most republican voters who watch that show
Almost, they realized they were one of the ones being made fun of. To them, The Boys "went woke."
If Elon loves being authoritarian, why does he try to distance himself from far right terrorists?
They know they have to stay mask on, no matter what.
They tried the whole "haha, we were nazis all along!" thing with the tiki torches and Unite the Right rally. They lost their jobs, families and the platform they'd built out of plausible deniability.
You could catch them dressed as Hitler, with a hand written copy of Elders of Zion, in the middle of lynching a jew, and they'd still claim "the left just calls everyone who disagrees with them a Nazi".
Does seem like he and other had a brain brake around same time. Or could just be wealth effects.
Same reason he skipped out of South Africa before the SADF conscripted him into the Apartheid war machine... him and his ilk believe the dirty and bloody work is beneath them.
"Terrorists" are the bad guys, you want "freedom fighters" (fighting for your freedoms, of course).
the coward Elon can't admit he knowingly incites this exact behavior
Of course he did. What's the provenance of this history?
Twitter sleuths, as usual.
Here’s a video of someone scrolling his likes before it was scrubbed:
https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status/1717462615272632534/video/1
How many users were they subscribed to overall?
Don’t think he was subscribed to anyone, but the video shows following only 14 people. Probably includes Musk, Don Jr, Tucker, etc
I wonder if the FBI will want a word with Musky over this. I hope so.
Its hard to touch billionaires until they are directly involved. Example-trump otherwise nothing going to happen, his lawyers will deal with it. He won't even know that FBI knocked on his door.
It's not hard Musk has committed a lot of crimes as well the DOJ has always just been cowardly conservatives or moderates afraid to touch their fellow fascists.
what do you think he even did wrong? you know the fbi can get data on deleted accounts right?
Lol🤣🤣🤣
fbi has all the data it needs. social media platforms have always removed mass shooters profiles.
Elon, y u no like your fanboys? :(
His heroes are Tucker, Elon, etc? To the fainting couch!
Very unsuspicious
literally every social media platforms removes the accounts of mass shooters. not anything new at all
i'm saying it is not atypical by any means for a social media platform to remove profiles of mass shooters. for as long as I can remember, every single time it happens and their social media is found, and it's subsequently removed. i know this sub is dedicated to hating Musk but you just look stupid when you spin narratives like this. People in this thread are calling for his arrest over it saying that he's hiding evidence of a crime.
Facebook does the same thing, and it doesn't hide evidence because banning someone's account doesn't remove their profile's data. It's still there for foi requests, warrants, and subpoenas. These social media companies aren't gonna host a mass shooter's profile. It's like how they banned Trump, that wasn't "hiding evidence," and it's likely if you hate Elon you were also loving that Twitter banned Trump.
Arguably analyzing such profiles would likely show that nearly all nowadays are at least in part radicalized via social media. Turns out if you rattle millions of grenades a few explode.
liking some ben shapiro tweets does not mean you are radicalized by social media lol. people will seek out things online they agree with
Have you been on social media there are a lot more radical ideas than bens.
the guy in question just liked some run of the mill conservative influencers
It's blatantly obvious he was trying to hide the shooters connection to Republicans and Trump. Come on now.
What is evidence?! I'll just pout like a child and call the system rigged rather than look at my own wrong doing! What is this shit?! Who makes these decisions?!
can you find me any major mass shooter who had their social media profile stay around after the news broke
Here's a source for you https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-07-06/tech-firms-delete-mass-shooters-accounts-but-it-s-not-enough
proof that it's a common procedure to do exactly this across pretty much all social media platforms. interested to hear what sort of stupid shit you have to say back to this.
Selective Enforcement
can you name an example of a major mass shooter who didn't have their profile nuked by social media platforms?
On twitter? Most of them
I said social media platform, not specifically twitter. If you were to actually look into it, you would see it happens on all of them.
"iTs BeCaUsE tHeY tEcAh EvOlUtiOn iN sCHoOLs aNd aLlOw aBoRtIoNs!!!"
Hey elon musk, look his alt https://twitter.com/RobertC2004180/. Different number but it has one zero instead of two. No way it is not his alt.
Just clicked the link ,it no longer exists.
Someone did try to archive it, but let me say the dude was fucked up.
I don't doubt it for a second.
That's wild, I read through a ton of his posts on that account and that I went back to refresh the page and it was already gone 👀
It's some fucked up thoughts for sure
Look at whatever this guy was against and support those things.
Elon is a joke gone wrong.
Musk is an accomplice.
Stochastic terrorism
So...not enough Musk spam, then?
If you have a problem with it
👇
Theres something incredibly hilarious about this screenshot, its like Elon's daring you to
Sounds like a right winger who had a psychotic episode or something, did he target people based on their politics?
Doubt it. If you've been constantly screamed at to see enemies everywhere for long enough, sooner or later you start seeing enemies everywhere.
That describes America perfectly, and both can be true. People who knew him have voiced concerns for his mental health and that it was a complete surprise to them. Coming up with hypothetical reasons to ignore that information seems to venture in to less likely territory.
When crimes are politically convenient people always want to discount mental health as a factor, and on the other hand will acknowledge a mental health crisis and the politics around that.
No, his personal circumstances
You can get this info?
Someone want to say what "resist_05" is?
If you have API access, just a matter of the right query for all public info. It’s how statistics analysis on Twitter are done by universities etc, at least before he made API access too expensive for them.
Resist_05 looks maybe like a disinformation amplifying account, follows dom lucre and that antisemitic warmonitors account, etc.
edit: speaking of that warmonitors account, icymi
https://reddthat.com/post/5443043
I'm shocked that viewing history for individual accounts is public info!
If the account is set to public, then yes, pretty much everything available except DMs. If you have it set to private, then no, at least not from the public APIs.
That's fucked up. It's not that different from leaving your browser history for the world to see when there are jokes about taking browser history to the grave.
fyi, unless something has changed (and anyone feel free to correct or update me), Mastodon is every bit as open. Last I checked, DMs aren’t even as private as on Twitter, and it’s recommended to use DMs only as a less-public direct message, and not use it for anything private that you wouldn’t want to risk getting leaked anywhere.
If you use your public tweets like a private diary you're going to have a bad time. If this hypothetical person is ashamed of their deviant sex behaviors, don't use Twitter.
Hell the privacy minded even say an incognito browser is still not very private.
But to claim your Twitter history is private is a bit of a stretch.
That said I don't use Twitter so do people use it like a diary?
the shocking things isn’t so much that it’s not private per se: we expect twitter to see everything we do and “personalise our experience”… we don’t expect arbitrary people to be able to
Anytime you see one of those vast Twitter connection charts between disinformation accounts that make you think of this guy
well, that’s one way how they make them.
Well it's not a matter of just this guy, but also normal people who aren't criminals, extremists, or politicians. While still awful, it's one thing to use that info for profit by giving other companies access to it. It's another thing to make it accessible to just about anyone.
No point asking me, I never use Twitter either.
I don't think which accounts or statuses someone has viewed/visited is public information. This is just a list of likes the account had, right? (Which is public and anyone can see without API access).
I was already rolling my eyes at another mislabeling of anyone who criticises Israel in any way but no... this is the real thing.
This is making me wonder if he scrubbed the account not only because Elon was viewed so much, but because he had recommended that warmonitors account before deleting the post, and probably many of the others. So guilt by association as well.
You know it’s bad when Elon can’t cover it up with a 💩
Here is the problem I see- you make this news and maga will immediately turn it into a deep state/antifai/Soros/FBI false flag operation.
Maybe they have already, i stay out of that nonsense these days. You just can't change these people's minds as easy as they can be programmed by right wing media.
Pretty obvious what this guy was listening to and I'm sad for the families that have to deal with his bullshit actions. I can't even imagine being gunned down just bowling with friends. We can't ignore the RW media's role in this.
We are still waiting for that Trans shooter's manifesto that was never released. We have enough actual instances of Tom fuckery woth the government that we don't need to make more
The trans shooter manifesto will probably never be released, it's probably deeply personal and about the abuses he sufferred at the hands of some predator at that school, i don't get why that's somehow a cover up?
There's no reason to. I thought we were against glorifying shooters
Because other manifestos are released almost instantly. Esp when they fit an agenda.
All of these people will of course have their excuses ready why their constant button pushing couldn't possibly have set this nut off.
Jim Cramer…
Lame
Am I the only one that saw BBC World on there?
No? You’re not the only one?
Whomever he clicked on shows up, so benign accounts are in there, but are definitely the minority. I feel bad for Billy2K, all he did was make dogecoin as a joke that spun out of his control.
Ability to read is not something exclusive you know...