3 days until reddit's 3rd party app shutdown, Lemmy users drive 985% surge with total 5.7 million comments this month
From 528k comments on June 1, 2023 to 5.7 million comments on June 27, 2023.
Source: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats&days=30
Speaking of 3rd party apps, here's a list of all lemmy apps currently in development: https://lemmy.world/post/465785
For iOS, I'm testing Liftoff, Memmy, and Thunder. For Android, I'm testing Jerboa. What's everyone's favorite app so far?> The top two instances, lemmy.world and lemmy.ml have a total number of comments of 156331 and 188364.
EDIT: @[email protected] has pointed out that this stat is for total comments by day, not per day. Thanks for the correction.
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We could only hope for a positive grow cycle: more people > more content > more people
This
edit: do we really have to copy the '/s' for sarcasm?
The /s should remain a thing of the past. It’s embarrassing.
No, no we do not.
I hope so but it seems the irony of my comment was lost to most readers until my edit.
Wear your downvotes like medals, you earn them both the same way.
And you don't carry them around with you here anyways.
I don't like tone indicators, but they're meant to help, among others, autistic people who have a hard time understanding tones
Came here to say this.
@Hank It's just a nice thing in text based communication in general, as there are no tone or body cues to indicate sarcasm.
@MicroWave
I know but it so oftens ruins a joke if you are so focused on eliminating any ambiguity that the original purpose of your statement is lost.
Honestly I like the /s but it tends to become formulaic/abused and loses its function
I doubt that this place stays that way lol
Dawn of The First Day
-72 Hours Remains-
EDIT: Didn’t expect this comment to get this many upvotes. Here’s a song for all you Majora’s Mask fans to enjoy at Time’s End, by the magnificently talented Theophany.
It's just sad. Like when you separate out the vitriol for spez, the whole situation just sucks. Reddit was my site for over a decade, and I know there are tens of thousands in the same situation as me. I thought I was insulated from this bullshit within Reddit, but clearly I was naive.
No one is really insulated. The way I explained it to someone is Reddit was like a girlfriend you dated for 10 years. It was great and it was mostly on autopilot. You both enjoyed each others company. Every so often you would get in a fight but it was never anything too extreme. The API change was like a massive blow up where you two finally say things that cannot be taken back. Afterwards your relationship isn't really the same. It is not necessarily damaged beyond repair, but one of the two in the relationship is just sorta sitting there thinking "This aint worth it anymore" so they go on a break to take some time. Many people will go back. Many will call it quits. Some will go between Lemmy and Reddit. But things are just not going to be the same moving forward.
I was also on reddit for more than 10 years, but in that time I have posted less there, than in a few days here.
Change keeps your brain young
I ultimately still need to use reddit for a few things, mainly a modding group from Skyrim I'm a part of and we use reddit as a sort of hub for our work, so I'm kind of stuck there until the heat death of either reddit or the project.
I do have hope for Lemmy though, but as of July 1st, reddit will lose me as part of their mobile ecosystem because I refuse to utilize that shit app of theirs.
Life is change. It's always good to be reminded of that by the relatively non-important things.
Theophany's work is incredible. Good shout
I'm done with Reddit. I can't support their behaviour so I'm moving on. I'm currently using Jerboa, and testing Liftoff and Thunder. All three are good, but Liftoff is my preference so far, just waiting for a few issues to be sorted which is happening over time. I'm interested to see what Sync does for Lemmy, as that was my go to Reddit app.
Yes!! I also like liftoff the best for now :)
Im waiting for SyncforLemmy. Using the website until it's launched
I’ve chosen to go 100% cut off from Reddit but was a daily Apollo user. I averaged around a couple of hours of use each day with Apollo. Since I left Reddit a couple of weeks ago I tried only using the browser version which has been pretty hard. But now that I found Memmy I’m super happy. A lot of the interactions are similar to Apollo and I feel I can interact a lot better with the fediverse using the app.
Narwhal user and I cut the cord on the day the protests started. I just wanted to pull the band-aid off and move on. I was holding out hope that Reddit would reverse course, but it was pretty clear from their actions since then that that’s not happening. 6/30 was the original date I gave myself to delete posts/comments/accounts, so I’m scorched earth this Friday.
I also originally thought I’d stick things out on Apollo until the 30th, and get last use out of the app, but after the admin interaction with iamthatis where they told him his app was inefficient but also refused to explain how (real “it’s not my job to educate you” hours) and then the spez AMA, I dipped. Edited and deleted my history. Account still exists because it’s a point of contact for some people doing website things, but that will go away once I get those people messaging my email.
I can’t go back to browsing Reddit after seeing how terribly they interacted with iamthatis, and with the community.
Not commenter, but I'm going to barge in - I literally went and touched grass. A week away from social media and reduced computer time. By the time I returned, the Lemmyverse was popping off.
When you’re AFK, the fediverse grows exponentially! Please touch more grass, for all our sake. 🥺
But you never mentioned which app is your favorite?
Narwhal has been my go-to Reddit app. I had downloaded every single Reddit app available at one point and that one just seemed to check all the boxes for me, with the "official" app being one of the first ones that I got rid of bc of how bad it was in comparison.
Try wefwef.app
Good rec, thanks. This might be the best webapp ive ever used, technically speaking.
Wow, nice first impression! Are you the developer?
Nope, I wish I was.
Wow I’ve been using Memmy, which has been great, but I’m impressed with wefwef so far!
I am in the exact same boat
I’m using Mlem on iOS right now, seems pretty solid for the most part. I haven’t tried others yet, but now I will! Thanks!
Edit: follow up- wefwef feels super slick, very Apollo like, has local docker hosting option!
Memmy crew rise up!!
+1 from me! Gk, Teflo, and Sean deserve more recognition!
I’m tag-teaming Mlem and Memmy right now. Mlem is buggier and a little less feature-complete, but it feels nicer to use.
I’m using the Memmy app, it’s pretty good. I might try Mlem and see what it’s like!
I’d highly suggest checking out Memmy too. Very active devs and imo has the most promising future
I believe mlem has been abandoned. I think I saw a post from the dev.
The original dev has transferred leadership to someone else, but development is still active. A new release came out today, actually.
Shit, good to know. Thank you.
Memmy is great!
EDIT: That link might not work in apps. If that’s the case go here instead: [email protected]
I've settled my focus on Memmy with some periodic checks on Mlem. I'm a sucker to try as many new Lemmy apps as I can but Memmy is where I spend my time. The development pace is amazing.
I’ve tried the others. None of ‘em are quite as good as Apollo (even with the basics) and both Mlem and Memmy have this problem where one of ‘em has almost all the basics right, but manages to miss out on one or two things where the other one is better.
Still, all of ‘em are so far ahead of the official Reddit app that it’s not even close. Hell, even using a home-screen bookmark for any Fediverse platform is better than the official Reddit app.
I have tried some iOS Lemmy apps, the most solid one for me is Memmy
Wow that's crazy! Curious to see what will happen on the 30th.
Hopefully they push a popup on the app itself to help with onboarding.
I believe the dev said yesterday that was the case.
There seems to be a big difference between browsing /all this morning and from when I first made an account. People seem to be motivated to add content which is making Lemmy punch above its weight at the moment. The Shit per User (SPU) index is pretty high at the moment.
Lol, with 19 days in you are actually one of the lemmy grampas . :)
What about me? I'm only 11 days in...
Anfänger
SPU... fuckin' a that's a good one. I'm trying to help push up the average the best I can.
Looks like it has already started. People are reporting limiting errors in apps.
Sync Dev was giving me limit errors today. I reinstalled it and it was working again but I know it's only a matter of time until the end. I won't use the official reddit app or website obviously, so I signed up for lemmy today!
Memmy is almost feature complete. wefwef.app if you don‘t want to install an app or don‘t have a testflight ticket.
I was just using Sync for Reddit when I noticed I can no longer load comments and then a pop up came up that said I was being rate limited by reddit. F this, I'll no longer visit that site even.
For android I was using Jerboa but switched to Liftoff and am liking it so far.
I'm having trouble clicking on some of the links on Liftoff which I have no issues with on Jerboa but it's still early stages so keeping my options open.
I searched for it in the Play Store but couldn't find it. Is it an F-Droid/GitHub app?
I like Liftoff, but have issues with duplicate posts, blocking communities, and something like 'you aren't logged into X, login to comment' when I am actually logged in. Liftoff and Jerboa both get better with each release though, and the releases are fast.
By default it integrates multiple instances into one feed. So you end up with duplicate posts since lemmy.world pulls in posts from lemmy.ml for example but then it will also show the original post from lemmy.ml. I suppose this feature could be useful if you wanted to look at multiple sites that weren't synced together already.
I'm part of that, I quit Reddit and nuked all my content on the way out because they're not only forcing Apollo to close down, they tried to blackmail Apollo's developer. I used to be a premium subscriber too.
This doesn't appear to be correct, it should be labelled total comments, by day, not per day. You can see the total number of comments on https://the-federation.info/platform/73.
The top two instances, lemmy.world and lemmy.ml have a total number of comments of 156331 and 188364.
Per day comments on lemmy.world averages between 6,000 - 10,000.
Unlike on Reddit, you can rename threads.
I still use Infinity for reddit from time to time. But these days I spent most of my online time with Jerboa. I had tried the offcial Reddit app and it's basically unusable on my phone.
Not bad at all🌈
We can hope for a positive growth cycle: more people > more content > more people
Wait, there really are 5.7 million comments a day on Lemmy?
Maybe, but how many of them are by bots?
Yeah there are a lot of communities out there where there is just a bot that appears to be mirroring what is posted on the subreddit it mirrors. There are a ton of posts like that I have seen.
You know, if we had mass tagging built in to the platform, it would solve a lot of bot problems. Probably create whole new ones, too.
We've seen a isolated instances of a version of some of these problems already.
Human artists having their artwork deemed "computer generated". I, myself have been accused of being a bot. I'm assuming my accusers have arrived conclusion at that because of my choices in use of speech. Would I, on Lemmy, have to fend off a 21st century version of the Scarlet Letter, a "bot" label?
Bot detected
I’m using Memmy right now. All the Apollo users should fully migrate when it’s down.
Not a fan of Lemmy's "new Reddit" type interface (posting from kbin), but I'm happy to see the Fediverse getting some traction regardless.
Let’s just all agree that some prefers Kbin’s interface and others like Lemmy.
Not trying to stir shit, just genuinely curious what you have a problem with in Lemmy's UI? Seems fine to me so far.
As a desktop user, I hate all the negative space on the left and right of the screen. I wish it looked more like Old Reddit.
Oh what luck, there's an old.reddit in your beard.
If you're comfortable with CSS you can use a browser plugin to modify the CSS to address specific dislikes. I've got mine set to use most of the page width, increase the sub-comment indent size, and a few other little tweaks.
There are some fancy complete restyles you can use too, but if you just want to tweak a few things an injection plugin is a good option.
I'm not a fan of how it's a narrow, centre-aligned thing. A lot of my web usage is on a Framework Laptop with a 3:2 screen, so the extra width of kbin and old Reddit's interface is valuable to me. Lemmy.world feels like it's made to be used in a window off to the side of something else.
Gotcha, that makes a ton of sense. I guess I just got used to a bunch of websites using this style so it doesn't bother me as much, but it is annoying to have so much wasted space.
That's funny, I chose Lemmy because I didn't like Kbin's UI
I use wefwef.app, it's not an app but a website specialized for iOS. It feels like Apollo.
Right?!
Neat, I’m pretty sure this my first comment! Excited to be here
Welcome to the Fediverse, active user!
I'm a bit dubious about this stat; it feels similar to the User's stat being over run by bots.
Lemmy has about 50,000 users, similar to Kbin, but it's users are commenting 120 times and also posting 16 times each a day on average? That seems unrealistic.
For comparison, Kbin (which actually has a slightly larger active user base) is produced about 100,000 comments a day, which is about 2 comments a day and about 0.6 posts per user per day. Interestingly Kbin's total users and active users are almost identical.
The threadiverse is certainly doing well, but I think the Lemmy stats continue to be skewed away from reality. I'm wondering if this is not actually all to do with bots, but some fundamental error in the counting/collection? Are the same comments and posts and maybe even the total user count in Lemmy being counted multiple times in the data fed back by the different servers?
Things like this always fall into a power law distribution, so it will fall off very quickly.
You need to juice the numbers by posting each paragraph as a separate comment, otherwise you'll never hit your daily 120.
I'm doing my part.
Thank
you.
Because of me, some other kbin user can just sit down and shut up.
I thank you for your contribution.
... Wait...
Me too!
You'll use up all the internet ink doing that
The posts could definitely be inflated by those bots that post everything from reddit and RSS feeds. Haven't seen anything like that for comments but yes 120 is weirdly high, interesting.
That also seems fishy. Except for a couple hundred people, everyone that makes an account also leaves a comment?
Plus one
I just hope there are fewer assholes like me
I would never join a group that would allow someone like me to be apart of it.
I would definitely block me
Not going to happen
What's crazy is this is only tracking comment traffic. The real unique traffic should be an order of magnitude higher, at least.
We will see on 1th Jul :)
Really hoping they can get the version incompatibility and stability issues worked out. Most users are going to want to use a mobile app they can just get on the play store/app store and currently Jerboa is still experiencing a lot of crashes and weird glitchiness. I tried Thunder too, but it also crashes randomly, but at least it lets you log into whatever instance you want, unlike Jerboa 0.0.35+
I agree. The Jerboa 35+ incompatibility with Lemmy v17 is very unfortunate timing.
There is also Summit
Can't log in with Jerboa, Connect crashes on startup for me. wefwef.app is a very pleasant experience though, and just the web interface of lemmy.world itself is great too. I used to use Reddit on my phone just normally on the web in the before times, before they started ruining everything. Pretty refreshing to just go back to that.
I still can't figure out how to subscribe to a community using the Lemmy mobile website. There doesn't seem to be any button or option for it. I can do it on wedwef.app, and on some actual apps, but not on the website itself.
If you press the button to expand the sidebar, there should be a button to subscribe to the community. Alternatively, you can go to the communities page, search for what you want to subscribe to, and subscribe from there
We're rolling (doing great)
Gonna be super interesting to see this curve from 1st Jul...
Started by checking out Mlem. Currently using Liftoff and enjoying the feel so far.
For apps, Connect and Summit seem to be the best I've tried. Summit is closest to the app Slide that I used on the website that shall not be named.
Jerboa crashes on older servers so I haven't really been able to use it as Lemmy.world is a 17.X server because of the captcha removal "feature".
I breifly had that issue, but it seems to be resolved. Reading and posting from lemmy.world
Connect and Liftoff are my favorites so far.
here we come!
Very impressive for Lemmy.
Kbin looks a little bit incomplete at first, but I find it's interface so logical and satisfying (except for top bar), that I jump back every time I try to use lemmy
It's been in development a lot less than Lemmy. By how things look right now I'm preffering kBin over Lemmy.
Also more developers
5,7 mil daily seems a lot. does it count other instances like kbin etc?
gas gas gas
I wonder, is that over 0.1% of what Reddit got?
my bad, my bad, a 985% surge is absolutely insane and I adore this community!
Wow that's a lot of comments, I've definitely contributed a lot to that
Relevant username? 😁
Haha yes
let's keep it up
Give social media corporations a taste of their own medicine
Let's call it the reddit effect. When attempts to monetize, centralize, and control forums on the internet results in less monetzeable, centralizable, and controllable forums on the internet.
Redidt: just like Digg
I just realized i got to find a new source of wallpapers for Displayfusion.
Viva la revolución!
Cool, but I bet most are bots
I'm not getting that impression from the comments in the threads I'm in.
Yes I'd assume anyone and anything could be a bot on reddit r/all but here everyone seem to be human
shallow and pedantic