The 'real' socialists are out there fighting Armed Rebellions against their oppressors not posting memes on Urbanite Eurocentric Meme-sites. You are a prime example of what is termed as 'Champagne Socialism'.
Neo-Nazis employ their ideology to promote hatred and racial supremacy (often white supremacy), to attack racial and ethnic minorities (often antisemitism and Islamophobia), and in some cases to create a fascist state.
Not sure what "left" or "right" mean anymore. I thought nazi would be on the right?
Either way this divides us instead of coming together as working class vs wealthy class.
Yes, it is a distinction, jargon used in politics.
I still see it as a learning and teaching opportunity when you meet people like that.
Hard to change minds and you need to listen much more than talk, neutral stances as a start then as you are more of an acquaintance you can get into the nitty-gritty topics.
National socialism has nothing to do with socialism. Its like North Korea calling themselves a democratic republic. Just play acting at being the good guys.
It's complicated and depends on who you're talking about. Classic Nazis prefer to ensure the workers are a productive exploited lot ala Henry Ford's idea of a utopia with the exploitive corporations tied heavily into the state, and the unproductive are to be shot.
Henry Ford is one of my favorite examples of an American exceptionalist specifically because you can bankroll a story about American Exceptionalism straight into authoritarian asshole.
Social democracy is still a capitalist ideology though, not the best recommendation to someone who said hates capitalism.
I'd recommend Anarchism or Post-Marxism
Only insofar as capitalism is the midpoint between feudalism and socialism. Democratic socialists are for allowing the majority to set the pace for moving towards that ideal so as to minimise societal disruption through rapid change.
Fuck the fascist nazis of lemmygrad.ml! Real socialists post memes right here on lemmy.world (:
The 'real' socialists are out there fighting Armed Rebellions against their oppressors not posting memes on Urbanite Eurocentric Meme-sites. You are a prime example of what is termed as 'Champagne Socialism'.
That's a real nice gate you're keeping there.
I prefer to be called "Salon Bolshevik"
Us democratic socialists that have already clawed out of the third world vote against our oppressors because we've already bled against them.
We wish those that still struggle the best with changing their countries.
Socialism is when you have a gun and shoot people and the more guns you use ti shoot people the mote socialister it is
If there's one thing tankies can't stand (other than the slightest whiff of dissent), it's mockery.
Red scare still happening to this day, censor everything for the protection of our great capitalism!
Fuck capitalism.
Fuck neo-nazis dressing up in drag to play leftist too.
Not sure what "left" or "right" mean anymore. I thought nazi would be on the right?
Either way this divides us instead of coming together as working class vs wealthy class.
Left stands for equality, right stands for hierarchy
That is in theory.
When you talk to actual people, I do not think they see it that way.
I still see it as a dividing mechanism that the wealthy class uses to divide the working class.
Well like it or not, some members of the working class want to perpetuate hierarchy, so it's a useful distinction.
Yes, it is a distinction, jargon used in politics.
I still see it as a learning and teaching opportunity when you meet people like that.
Hard to change minds and you need to listen much more than talk, neutral stances as a start then as you are more of an acquaintance you can get into the nitty-gritty topics.
Thanks for pointing it out!
They like "spicy socialism", socialism + authoritarianism, bigotry is preferred.
National socialism has nothing to do with socialism. Its like North Korea calling themselves a democratic republic. Just play acting at being the good guys.
They still like social services, but only for the Nazis.
It's complicated and depends on who you're talking about. Classic Nazis prefer to ensure the workers are a productive exploited lot ala Henry Ford's idea of a utopia with the exploitive corporations tied heavily into the state, and the unproductive are to be shot.
Henry Ford is one of my favorite examples of an American exceptionalist specifically because you can bankroll a story about American Exceptionalism straight into authoritarian asshole.
I get a lot of mileage out of him.
As evidenced by your username I guess
I think he means java the programming language, and not java the Indonesian geographical location.
I think you got your users mixed up haha
you are correct.
Yeah, it is just used to divide.
Learning more and more everyday.
Main groups should be the working class vs. wealthy class.
What if I hate capitalism and authoritarianism?
Theres no need to repeat yourself.
I would say that is a good stance!
Feel free to check out social democracy - it's socialism except that it has actually worked great on numerous occasions.
Social democracy is still a capitalist ideology though, not the best recommendation to someone who said hates capitalism. I'd recommend Anarchism or Post-Marxism
Only insofar as capitalism is the midpoint between feudalism and socialism. Democratic socialists are for allowing the majority to set the pace for moving towards that ideal so as to minimise societal disruption through rapid change.
Idk maybe they meant Democratic Socialism
They didn't censor communists, they removed tankies.