Spyke
kbin.social

Good. Columbus was a shithead even by the standards of 16th century shitheads.

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lemmy.world

Contemporary observers were talking about how much of a shithead he was. It's pretty safe to say he was a shithead.

The fact that people with an agenda managed to retroactively make him into a glorified hero centuries later says more about our current culture than it says about Columbus's contemporaries 500 years ago.

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Nothing is quite so disgusting than realizing all the bullshit we were fed about him back when I was in school.

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Malek061reply
lemmy.world

He did do something no person in the world had done before. He may be a shithead , but his impact is undeniable.

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If you're talking about DiScOvErInG the the new world, both the Irish and the Vikings beat him to it

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Sleep with the queen of Spain. But yeah let's be honest, he wasn't exactly the first.

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lemmy.world

He didn’t discover it. There were clearly already white people there.

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One of my favorite parts about this new holiday is just how much it pisses off bigots.

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lemmy.world

Sorry, I don't celebrate genocidal maniacs, but I am enjoying a happy Indigenous People's Day.

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Malek061reply
lemmy.world

The Aztecs committed genocide. Do you celebrate them?

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Malek061reply
lemmy.world

All humans were pieces of shit back then. Judging them by today's standards is bullshit.

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lemmy.world

You know that even Columbus' contemporaries condemned him, right?

Columbus’ cruelty was recognized in his own day. Spanish churchmen condemned him for carrying off women from their husbands and subjecting them to the pleasures of other men. Friar Bartolomeo de las Casas, who accompanied Columbus on his third voyage, wrote, “The silence.” His published accounts included contemporary illustrations of native mothers drowning their children to save them from Spanish cruelty.

https://www.telegram.com/story/news/local/north/2008/10/18/columbus-was-cruel-exploiter-great/52228974007/

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Malek061reply
lemmy.world

Yes. He still did something that changed the face of the world forever.

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Malek061reply
lemmy.world

Every group of people have murdered someone from another group of people.

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Also not true. You'll need to be more specific. Every individual person has not committed atrocities and neither has every group of people. Once you start getting into governments of countries you might be getting somewhere.

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Tb0n3reply
sh.itjust.works

That's today. They deliberately tried to make an indigenous people's day because they didn't want Columbus Day. We still have Columbus Day today.

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My people celebrate "huh? We have Monday off next week? Nice."

We celebrate it several times a year.

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Which was a total cop-out.

You don’t reform by renaming Evil Guy Day to Victims Day.

You drop it from the calendar to make outcasts of anyone who still celebrates the guy.

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You reached the end