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micgernereply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

It tastes like a cross between beef and venison, but even more gamey. The tail is quite fatty though, even fattier than lamb. It isn't chewy and dry like roo steaks or whatever bits they use to make sausage with.

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micgernereply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

It's meat. Far more environmentally sustainable than eating beef, pork or lamb.

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lemmy.zip

This is an interesting thought experiment.

Pork comes in after chicken in the traditional meats as it can be farmed intensively to reduce land use impacts and can eat waste streams. Besides the ethical concerns of murdering an intelligent animal in pork, kangaroo farming would take a fair bit of space and some unusual fencing. Could you even herd them well to be factory efficient?

Now if everyone dropped their meat consumption to near zero and we stopped land clearing and started fire stick farming to create palatable pick for kangaroos then used targeted hunting, I guess it would be sustainable? Certainly less erosive than beef/goat/sheep.

Just thinking out loud. Thanks for sharing regardless. Butcher or hunted kangaroo, where did it come from?

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micgernereply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

It was from the butcher, roo shooting licences are even more restrictive than gun licences.

As far as sustainability goes I think it comes down to whether you look at it under "ideal" conditions or conditions as they are now. Under "least environmental impact, highest farming intensity" I'd agree that pork is probably better, but that's not how things are.
Kangaroo populations are basically a byproduct of European grazing practices in Australia for sheep and cattle, they'll exist at more than sustainable population numbers regardless of if they're harvested or not and thus harvesting them has little to no environmental impact.

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lemmy.zip

All good, mate. It really comes down to how we define the words used and I like your second choice over the first; low impact vs sustainable.

We won't be feeding the population nor having any ecological benefit but eating kangaroo in that situation is definitely lower impact than any other farmed meat.

Just splitting hairs with you, not looking for arguments. Enjoy the meal.

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yeah nah you're good, no argument here. It's an interesting point of discussion as to what constitutes environmentally sustainable.

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lemmy.world

I don't believe you can farm kangaroos. All the kangaroo meat sold is an animal that's been culled to reduce overgrazing from my understanding

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That's they way I understand it too. Kangaroo "overgrazing" directly relies on other animal agriculture to create the food sources that they need to thrive since we don't manage the land in similar ways any more. Kangaroos also like a nice golf course/sportsfield/lawn/road edge which is fossil fuel dependent.

Back to the drawing board it seems.

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lemmy.zip

Same old story, in parts of Australia, beef would outnumber any other terrestrial animal in number and weight.

We are winning mammal extinctions for a reason.

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My cousin has taken to keeping the tails when we butcher steers for friends and family, he's gotten addicted. We used to just throw them to the coyotes with the rest of the hide.

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Never even heard of people eating roo meat. I read all the comments, and I think kangaroos are cute creatures (albeit dangerous, they will kick the shit outta you gladly), but I'm also of the opinion cows are cute (I think cows can even be cuter than horses, depends on the markings) but I also eat hamburger/beef. I quite like pigs, as animals. I think they're misunderstood. BTW, please pass the sausage. I do prefer turkey sausage, but I won't turn down pork. Tender pork chops and tenderloin is the best, but bacon is also awesome. And that bacon better be pork. We don't do turkey bacon, and plant-based? Make your plant-based food with black beans or whatever, but don't lie or be vague about what it actually is. That's some bullshit right there. Impossible Beef? Beyond Beef? It's fucking plants. Own that shit. Make it good. Don't confuse people. Those who are smarter just think it's bullshit marketing and it doesn't get a chance to stand on its own, and it absolutely should. Veganism is absolutely valid, but it's being presented dangerously wrong.

So, that being said, I would love the opportunity to try roo tail or roo steaks. I'd rather meet a tamed roo, but one does not cancel out the other for me.

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I was told they were a pest and to come try it by friends when I visit.

It's kind of like deer are cute! Until you're scraping them off your bumper. There's too many since their natural predators got wiped out. Be a vegan if you want but realize there's people that are paid to exterminate wild hogs so those vegetable fields aren't destroyed.

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I've been at a few places that had kangaroo streaks as a special. They're pretty good if you get the chance.

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Never had roo, did have croc though. Bit expensive in Brisbane but pretty good replacement for chicken on occasion

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The few times I've had crocodile it's always been a bit meh. I found it not different enough to watery chicken to really warrant the added cost.

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lemmy.zip

Probably works better mixed in to a stew or a hot malaysian rendang or something

Should be more popular however the beef industry doesnt like it

Actually way more sustainable than beef or lamb

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micgernereply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

It's not just the beef industry. Kangaroo exports to the US have been effectively banned due to extensive lobbying by PETA and a largely ignorant seppo population.

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micgernereply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Nothing to do with inspection infrastructure, otherwise they'd be allowed to import kangaroo leather. It was outright banned for sale in California in 2016 due to lobbying by animal rights' groups. When California makes consumer legislation there tends to be a big flow on effect to other states.

https://www.independent.com/2007/06/04/peta-protest-downtown-sb/

https://archive.is/rec2X

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/sep/14/california-set-to-ban-kangaroo-imports-despite-lobbying-efforts-by-australia

Similar campaigns have been waged elsewhere:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/isabeltogoh/2020/01/15/versace-reveals-ban-on-kangaroo-skin-amid-savekangaroos-call-from-campaigners/

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As a Californian, you're better off, mate. Start importing roo meat to California, suddenly it becomes Trendy, now it's profitable to overkill the Aussie roo population, and also someone starts a roo farm in ChulaVista with nasty factory-farm methods.

Keep your roos, cull the extras and leave healthy populations as natural as they're willing to be, with all that good grazing lying around.

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It's gross delicious to eat animal corpses.

It's gross to show up unwelcome in a cooking thread to proselytize and insult OP's cooking.

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Any movement has a wide range of activist behavior.

Militant behavior is but one flavor, if we can call what I'm doing militant when I'm really just posting online.

Veganism is what you perceive, and what you perceive isn't 100% true.

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piefed.social

Imagine going on a cooking community to troll people about eating meat.

Really it’s a sad existence and I feel bad for you.

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the_qreply
piefed.social

I didn't seek it out. You lack the ability to feel bad for others, bud.

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piefed.social

Right now I have a cow, a pig and lamb in my freezer and they were all lovingly raised and when they got to the right age, lovingly butchered to be enjoyed as amazing meals.

You know nothing about me.

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the_qreply
piefed.social

A psychopath is a person characterized by a persistent lack of empathy, a shallow or absent capacity for guilt and remorse, and a tendency toward antisocial, manipulative, or exploitative behavior.

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It's so sad. I'll need some delicious smoked kangaroo tail to cheer myself back up.

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