Remarkably, Wobble and Laswell have pretty similar approach to the sound, playing the bass so thick you can swim in it and both making it quite jazzy; and Laswell has produced PIL's album ‘Album’ — but they didn't meet then! Wobble was already out of PIL, and apparently it was only two years later in '88 when he was making ‘Without Judgement’ with the Invaders of the Heart, that a tape reached Celluloid Records, where Laswell was a producer at the time. Specifically it was guitarist Nicky Skopelitis (whom Laswell drags along on his projects for decades now) who heard the tape and introduced the dudes to each other. There's also the anecdote that Skopelitis asked Wobble about his favorite album, which turned out to be Miles Davis' ‘Dark Magus’, same as Laswell's favorite.

Wobble has also done some bass on Laswell's production projects like Ginger Baker's ‘Middle Passage’ — during which, by his own story, he never met Baker, because Laswell organized the production that way for some reason.