I am vegan for animals, indeed, and there are other issues, but I learned the healthy way, it is not just what would be vegan for us, it is with variety of whole foods from plants and avoiding processed stuff that comes in many foods people eat. I do this since I learned to for the much better health there is with this a few years after being vegan, and I benefit noticeably from ten and a half years with it, there is my direct experience.