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lemmy.world

Oh, there's definitely a moral objection.

Turns out "the" bible is a terrible source for morals, so I don't care what some bloodthirsty asshole's interpretation of that text happens to be.

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Oh yeah and turns out that egotistical megalomaniacs aren't the best source when it comes to ethics.

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"But if you're atheist, where does your moral compass come from?!"

I'm all for freedom of religion, but their rights need to end when they infringe on others' rights

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Which tells a lot about the lack of morals in such "megachurch pastors".

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lemmy.world

Christians are ushering in this brutality because they see a country lead by Islam, which punishes women and has public executions and think, damn, I want that, only with my bullshit religion.

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lemmy.world

If even Mike Johnson, who is a professional liar able to justify anything, is saying that live streaming is not a good idea, maybe is not a good idea

But the book says something like this, right?

if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, strike him back sevenfold and show no mercy killing him, so that everyone may know the full wrath of your vengeance

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That's definitely somewhere in the Old Testament, but needs more smiting.

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zbyte64reply
awful.systems

The difference is Mike Johnson actually has the power to whip votes and put a stop to this.

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In theory he has power but I'll remind you that his position is also quite weak. He barely got the speaker position and could easily be removed if he pisses anyone off on the Republican side. Even if he wanted to do something he'd at best be shouted down.

Not defending him mind you I want to hang and spear him but it is the reality of his power, he is less a leader and more a lightning rod.

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PattyMcBreply
lemmy.world

The loopholes make it moral whenever they deem it so

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From the state that requires public schools to inscribe “Thou Shall Not Kill” on their walls, no biblical or moral objection.

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Every single motherfucking church like this should be taxed into oblivion.

Church and State separate.

Freedom of religion also means freedom from religion.

Time for all these charlatans to be shut the fuck down.

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I think there was a story in the Bible about Jesus seeing an execution about to happen. How did it end again…? Oh yeah, I think it was ‘everyone grab a rock and kill, kill, kill!’

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Yeah, but that's from Jesus. A lot of so-called xtians seem to be far more excited about the OT, especially the nasty and bloodthirsty parts. And from the NT, they often seem to be more interested in what Paul has to say, which is interesting since Paul never even met Jesus.

I think these types of xtians would be better labeled as Paulians.

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Yeah, just like when Jesus saw money lenders in the temple. He said "Holy shit that's a good idea. Let's keep making money off these smucks so I can buy 3 private jets."

Also, one cannot serve two master. Between God and money, you will hate one and love the other, and I don't see God around only money, so you might as well focus on that one.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Coming from the group that used to throw stones at people is pretty rich.

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I mean... technically it will be throwing a really small stone made mostly of metals, at a high rate of speed.

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prolereply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

You sure about that one?

Where did Jesus speak out against public execution?

In fact, he specifically said that he wasn't here to abolish the old law, but to fulfill it.

And guess what was included in the old law...

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Evoke5reply
lemmy.world

Not a Christian but I read the new testament and Jesus does stop a public execution:

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=john+8&version=KJV

They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou? This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not. So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

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His public execution was literally necessary too, according to his father's stupid plan.

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prolereply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

This story wasn't about condemning the practice of public execution, it was about pointing out the hypocrisy of the people participating in a stoning of a woman for adultery. Was it even a public execution (that is, an event people would attend and watch)?

Always just came off as a more vigilante justice thing so I'm not even sure it was a public execution in the way we're referring to. Even if it were an officially adjudicated sentence, I don't recall mention of a crowd to watch or anything. Though it has been years since I've read it so I dunno.

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Evoke5reply
lemmy.world

You can read the whole thing in the link I sent. It was a public execution, with audience participation even.

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Lol yeah no thanks. I'll read a good book instead.

Nothing you said changes the message of the story. He doesn't condemn the public execution at all. He just talks people out of participating.

There's also that whole thing about he himself needing to be very brutally publicly executed in order to fulfill some convoluted, nonsensical plan that he himself (in the form of his own father) came up with.

That's like the ultimate condoning of public execution. It literally saved humanity, according to Christians.

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The guy who walked knowingly to his own public execution and never once condemned the practice? That guy??

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It's not surprising that a Death Cult has no objections to live streaming a human execution.

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God is death. Just read the old testament. Spread the word, "God is death".

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Oh great, because some mega church clown is the moral instance that can accurately judge this. 🙄

Kind of like the pope if he wasn't too woke I guess 🙄

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If your megachurch pastors are below the humanitarian level set by the fucking pope, then your slimeball pastors are wrong.

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This is what Fascism is to me. Not the brutality of this. It’s the fact that there are no actual rules and anything is okay as long as “we” are doing it to “them.”

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Man without a soul unsuccessfully contemplates morality, more at eleven!

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sns
lemmy.dbzer0.com

I suspect he feels the same way about raping children.

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Aren't these the same assholes complaining about beheadings live streamed? Maybe we should see public executions for pedos like the hundreds of holy men.

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He he he, these American demons are funny. Well, I'm sure he can explain that one to God when he meets Him. 🙃

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I mean... Sure. Why would one of the most violet, genocidal, oppressive and vile religions on the plant have any issue at all with an execution being live streamed?

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