US man shoots off-duty ICE agent who allegedly attacked him and daughter
ICE official, who was sleeping on man’s lawn and appeared ‘intoxicated’, faces felony charges, California police say
A 72-year-old man shot an off-duty Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) official in California early on Friday morning after the “intoxicated and agitated” official assaulted him and his daughter on their property, local authorities allege.
The Fresno police department said that the ICE official was receiving medical care after being shot in the midsection. The official, identified as David Gonzalez, is facing felony charges for assaulting the father-daughter duo, Fresno police said.
It was not immediately clear for how Gonzalez had been with ICE and what exactly he did for ICE. The Department of Homeland Security (DHS), which oversees ICE, referred all questions about Gonzalez to Fresno police.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/oct/10/california-man-72-shoots-ice-officer-fresno-off-dutyOpen linkView original on lemmy.world
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Faces felony charges, but the federal department he works for passed questions to the local authorities.
They dumped him on someone else to avoid accountability. Nice. Sounds like a Trump organization.
This is best case scenario. Local investigation and charges. Otherwise the feds will block access to to evidence and just say everything was done according to the books
The agents last name is Gonzalez. The feds will immediately disown him or throw him under the bus.
Those leopards are HUNGRY for faces
This just tells us there are still people in middle management who can’t stomach this shit. (Most people who couldn’t at higher levels have resigned already, and we can all see what’s coming for middle management)
I guess luckily they had a police officer in the family? I can't help but feel like things would have gone quite differently if they didn't have relations with the local police force.
100% it would have gone differently if they didn't have a police officer in the family lol
Yeah the blue line is wobbly on this one so whoever does cop optics first wins.
More people should.
"Gonzales" is a hell of a last name for a hired ethnic cleanser in California.
There’s likely a lot. In Texas here you see a ton of trucks with the punisher/blue line/trump wig stickers on their trucks with Hispanic men driving them. Completely disconnected from reality
This unfortunately, too real
I wounder how the police would have handled this if the homeowner name was Gonazels and the ICE agent name was William Baker.
Whitecap party
Shout out to you for calling this “anti-immigrant campaign” what it is. I think the phrase Ethnic Cleansing needs to be permanently attached to ICE and the Trump Administration, and I wonder how many decades it’ll be before the media uses it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Ghetto_Police
Seems to be a lot of people with that background within that department
You'd be surprised
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It should be legal to shoot ice agents, on duty or off, particularly if they, as usual, are masked and not following police procedures. And if the man was afraid for his life, as he definitely should have been if an ice agent was involved, the precedent set by multiple high profile recent cases in other states is that it was legal. I hope that jury finds the same.
Honestly, since ICE agents don't provide any kind of id when asked, we shouldn't refer to them as ICE agents, because that's really unconfirmed. It would be more appropriate to say "masked man dressed as ICE agent", because we can't actually know that they're an official rather than a criminal in a costume. And obviously, the correct and rational response to being assaulted or harassed by someone in a mask is to treat them like a criminal, and defend yourself appropriately.
This isn't self-defense, it's just plain murder. While I don't agree with ICE wearing masks and acting lawless, calling for more violence is not the way. Don't become the very thing you hate.
They willfully chose to become monsters. Your call for "humanity" is shielding evil from consequences.
Some armed, masked goon refusing to show ID trespasses on my property I'm not gonna greet them politely.
That's a different circumstance though and is not what OP is advocating.
Nazis are so very face-punchable
Shooting someone before they shoot you is deffo self defense wtf.
I agree with this but that's not how OP framed it.
It's murder like in killing a Nazi soldier in France as a French during Nazi occupation in WW2. Sure, it's illegal under the occupation forces' law. But it's still the right thing to do.
Stop the thugs, not the people punching back if you want it to stop. It's cowardly to speak down, speak up and these poor folks will have nothing* to bitch about.
I really don't think calling for no violence in a progressively more fascist, corporate-owned country that gets a hard on from shooting deadly weapons is logical.
It's in their constitution, go wild guys. Better it used on the people harming society at large than anywhere else.
America can deepthroat the barrel of a nice thick gun and pull the trigger as the climax
You’re human garbage.
"DAE killing Nazis is murder?"
I appreciate your sentiment against violence more than the community at large. While I do hate needless divisiveness, as many others have already said in this instance the person in question made a conscious choice to enact the hateful, barbaric policies of the trump administration as the instrument of violence for personal profit.
We who cherish tolerance must be the most mindful of the tolerance paradox.
I'm not advocating for ICE's lawlessness nor tolerance for it. I'm just pointing out the stupidity of someone calling out to go murder with next to no context. What I mostly see for comments in this post are people regurgitating talking points and buzz words. Then there are the attacks on me misrepresenting my message or just plain acting like idiots saying nazi, nazi, nazi, ..... To think, these are the people who consider themselves the more educated side. Funny.
I don't think you know how war works.
I don't think you remember what war does to everyone who actually has to go do it instead of sitting on their asses telling other people to go do it.
But what does war do to people who won't fight back, but is still forced upon them?
Mankind loses. War always wins, mankind always loses.
Only once?
He's not a cop. He's got some self control, restraint and a general unwillingness to commit murder.
I'd argue killing an ICE agent is closer to pest control.
True, but ICE agents are barely human anyway, so I say fuck em.
They're human. They represent the worst of humanity, but dehumanizing is their game, and it's best not to play it.
Mmm nope, gonna have to disagree. Your statement is a demonstration of the paradox of tolerance in action.
Any ICE agent, at any time, can choose to no longer be an ICE agent. The people that ICEatzgruppen are targeting and repressing and brutalizing and deporting and killing cannot choose to not be targeted.
Fascists should be scared for their lives, always. The fact that they aren’t anymore, and haven’t been for at least a decade now, is a big part of how we got here.
I'm not saying they're good people. They're the worst of us, but they aren't doing anything humans aren't capable of doing. Don't trust them, but keep an eye on your own limits, too, as you don't want to follow their lead.
I saw someone else say they think of it as "pest control" and I agree with every fiber of my being.
I don't agree with your statements at all. It's not a slippery slope to want to protect your fellow citizens from a modern Nazi SS
ETA: I bet others back in the 1930s Germany were saying/thinking the exact same as you are right now. And I'd tell them to fuck all the way off because of it.
"They're human" is not the same as defending them. Kinda cringe to call someone a Nazi for refusing to dehumanize their enemy.
Exactly. Intolerance can't be tolerated.
Never said they should be tolerated. Being human doesn't make them good or right; it's just a reminder that they weren't born different.
But they were though, or else they wouldn't be fucking fascists.
How many ice agents have you shot?
THE HIGH ROAD
...LEADS INTO HELL
Naah. They’re subhuman garbage.
I've been counselled to make sure if you ever have to shoot someone that you empty the clip into them, as it implies you were pannicked , in fear for your life, and and not in control of the situation.
Yep... the whole clipazine 🙄
If the person counselling you knew what they were talking about they wouldn't call a magazine a "clip".
oh no, did I get the term wrong. So.. I'm not a gun guy and am unlikely to become one. I dont really care what the proper term is. If you want to shake your head that I'm not getting your terminology correct then you're as bad as the trekkies who pshaw people and say, "theres not even a warp core conduit going throygh that part of the ship". I just dont care.
Right, but you're kind of painting the person who advised you as an expert. That person is clearly not an expert, an expert would get the nomenclature right.
"USA MAN Stands Ground."
Do Not Forget Rule 2.
Feelgood story of the year.
And THAT is what your vaunted second amendment is for.
I hope the recoil didn't hurt him.
I absolutely love the comments here. On cucked Reddit this would have been locked and nearly all comments deleted. I got permabanned there a couple days ago for going off on Russia and their stupid plague situation. Of course, I had previous bans, one of which was for wishing these Chinese kids, that killed those beloved village dogs a while ago, the absolute worst mob justice imaginable.
Anyway, fuck ICE, keep firing at the bastards.
Are you looking to see someone firing this at the ICE bastards while watching them drop by the hundreds and their vehicles blow up?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfRpiem7yps
"Sight? What sight? I just see where the bullets land, that's my sight"
all those in PA remember one thing. If you vote for Frank Pastella and the rest of the republicans, you vote to let Pastella rape your kids. Vote no to Republikkkans like Frank Pastella to keep their dicks outside of your children's bodies. even cucks should be smart enough to keep nazi dicks out of their children's bodies.
That'll teach that domestic terrorist.
They're not capable of learning
Too much hate and less intellect, mixed with a dollop of greed.
Put a bunch of unqualified fascist screw heads in uniforms AND masks. We are just a sad joke.
More of this.
Finally some good news out of Fresno.
Good. Shame the fucker survived.
Hopefully he'll be ashamed (not likely) and be fired and have this follow him for the rest of his life. Fuck those ICE thugs!
It took a remarkably long time for one of these assholes to get shot at.
Yeah, honestly I'm surprised with how many gun happy people there are and tend to be anti authority to some degree. I feel like they wouldn't put up with a lot. Which in this case I'd high five them lol.
That's why they've been targeting demographics with low gun ownership. They're well aware of that possibility.
At least they can't justify more violence with "they are shooting at us, we gotta shoot first to protect our little fragile egos!"
How could they even tell he was off duty? He wasn't behaving any differently to when he's at work.
Maybe less tacti-cool gear?
Pity his aim wasn't better.
A shocking percentage of American gun owners put little effort into learning basic marksmanship.
Not that shocking tbh.
Many own a fun just to protect themselves from others that own guns
I naïvely thought that putting projectiles where you intend would be considered more important than larping or collecting.
The idea of "larping" is that if they pull a gun on you, you pull one back, but with zero intention of either of you firing a bullet.
I don't know if you meant to type that, but it certainly works.
Don't bring a fun to a gun fight you lose !
Hehehe, I fully didn't, damn autocomplete
Hope they don't get in trouble over this. Many HOAs frown upon disposing of garbage on your front lawn.
We need to get this man a gun range subscription.
More please!
This is NOT true! That person was a PRETEND ICE Agent because REAL ICE Agents have IDENTIFICATION and PROTOCOL to Ensure they ARENT a Random Person KIDNAPPING CHILDREN and Murdering People!
Source?
The user you are replying to is a novelty account who presents facetious but entirely plausible MAGA flavored ironic responses using Donald Trump's trademark TWITTER POSTING STYLE with RANDOM phrases in all-caps for EMPHASIS. Thank you for your attention to this matter!
Some may call it simply a parody account ;)
I swear to god peoples' sense for detecting humour and parody is dying. Except the Brits and the Aussies, fuckin' love those cunts
Ahem... it's spelt "coonts"
If you're from Birmingham or something then yeah haha
I definitely wasn't being a sarcastic coont
Did you really read this and think this person is making a genuine argument?
I've been seeing the weirdest comments lately. Idk anymore
Stop eating shrooms, and can I have some shrooms?
You do have a point there
That's fair, Poe's Law is broken. Edit: Or proven. One of those
What a tragedy. (That the ICE goon survived the shooting, I mean.)
Straight to jail.
This is why journalism still exists in the US for now, and why the regime is trying very hard to kill it.
Why do they keep using this thumbnail of the caked up Nazi?
Stupid, sexy, fascists
It’s like I’m wearing nothing at all! Nothing at all! Nothing at all!
Oh no!
Well anyway...
There are more of us than them at any given time. It's not illegal to kill your local ICE agents. Make them fear waking up in the morning.
I think you mixed up “illegal” and “immoral”.
No I didn't. Can't be charged with a crime when there's no one left to report it.
Make Homeland Security start naming their "officers" after they're dead. Spoiler alert, they won't because the majority of them are J6ers, formerly dismissed cops, or convicted felons. No way Homeland will admit to hiring the absolute worst people for upholding immigration enforcement.
They admit it all the time. They’re proud of it. It’s how fascists brag about the power they’ve amassed.
Not bring prosecuted doesn't mean its leagel. See: President
Good. Just next time, aim for the head
Needs to get firing squad to set an example
They could televise it, I heard that was the new thing.
If it was in the West Bank , he would got shot instantly, his whole family and neighbors would be killed and their homes destroyed
Give it a second. Shit.
Karma
That's a legit crashout if I ever see one.
Yeah. They've been low-key happening on the regular since ICE started going hard on deportations, side items in the media that are reported but without any fanfare, usually involving drinking + bad acts that together result in an arrest.
It's almost like some of these wannabe sociopaths have just enough of a stub conscience left to fuck them up when they're away from the team and forced to be alone with themselves, but not enough of one to just walk away.
it's more because they're all typically people who couldn't make it in the police or military, either because of criminal records, addiction, behavior problems, or worse, like all official street thugs of a fascist government, they are the worst people, and when this finally falls apart and people start doing through the details they'll be identified.
Maybe. All that may be true, but it has nothing to do with how you handle who and what you are after the rest of your team has left for the day and you're faced with the silent emptiness that contains only you and the knowledge of what you've been up to in it.
A distant threat of criminal prosecution, that may or may not ever even happen, has nothing against the recent memory of the woman looking up into your eyes with a mix of horror and revulsion, seeing you as the monster you are as she fights you trying to rip her kid away from her, or the remembered cries of the family members screaming at you as you take their father, or the shouts of "Shame!" from the crowd as they watch you violently subdue some guy whose only crime is being brown.
Some people enjoy it, even feed on that shit. Some people are deeply horrified in some remaining corner of inner sanity and try to drink it away so they can keep doing it. Both are fucked, but deep down where it counts when a human being is alone with himself, they are not the same.
I blame it more on the pressure to deliver unreasonable numbers of arrests/deportations causing a high amount of "work stress" combined with the fact that they're garbage to begin with.
I seriously doubt any of them have a conscience or feel like they're doing anything wrong if they willingly took that job.
Woo ![email protected] !!! We are in the news again!
good.
I love this story. Good way to start the week.
Where is that Kylo Ren MORE animated gif?
He's just going to go missing.
We should build a statue of this hero