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lemmy.ml

Rubbish. Not while Russian government officials, capitalists and TV propagandists all have real estate, children and Bank accounts in Europe

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lemmy.ml

Do you see her as a major driving force in Russian politics that would decide whether there would be strikes on Europe though?

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lemmy.ml

I see her as a major talking head and thus an indicator for ruling class' opinions

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The ruling class isn't homogeneous though. You have people who built their wealth on the relationship with Europe, but now a lot of the ties are largely cut. And trade with the Global South is now replacing it. So, you have a new group of capitalists who are not interested in Europe in the slightest, and even see resumption of trade with Europe as a threat to the niches they occupy. I don't think the actions Russia is currently taking suggest that she represents the capitalists who are in the ascendant right now.

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lemmy.zip

You'd be surprised. Putin's children are raised in Switzerland, and I bet their life is not funded by a hardworking mother.

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lemmy.ml

I don't know if you've been living in a cave for the past 4 years, but relations between Russia and Europe aren't what they used to be. Also, are you suggesting that rich people in Russia can't live well without needing Europe?

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lemmy.zip

I've been a Russian living in Europe and I follow the news closely both from European and Russian independent media. The cash flow is complicated, but it exists, and Russian oligarchs/politicians still own property and support their families in Europe, even if they are suctioned themselves. Also, it's not a reason for Putin not to attack anyone if thar would feed his ego and help to keep his position.

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It's pretty clear that the economic gravity in Russia has shifted towards the Global South at this point. So, in terms of political influence, Europe is largely irrelevant now because over the past four years there plenty of new businesses filling the niches left by decoupling from the west. It's in their interest to ensure western competition doesn't come back. And today they have far more influence in politics than a handful of people who still have any financial ties to Europe.

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Russia will bomb US military industrial complex donation centers, Foreign Minister says

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Are these the same weapons of mass destruction factories NATO used to arm it's jihadi militias in Syria, Iraq and Libya

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Do it. Close both straits and shut down the global economy at the same time. This life sucks and it's getting worse. Just put the economy out of its misery, cheers! We'll rebuild from the ashes.

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eldavireply
lemmy.ml

not if those ashes are radioactive.

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Why on earth would the oligarchs ever let you have anything? People aren't united and won't be working collectively on this kind of stuff.

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discuss.tchncs.de

Russia says a lot of things, but they increasingly fail at projecting power. There are few red lines left.

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noctebreply
feddit.org

If they would really see that as a solution why would they talk about it instead of just doing it?

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lemmy.ml

Keep talking that macho talk and throwing rocks while living in glass houses.

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ManixTreply
lemmy.world

Tell that to fascist russia who keeps starting imperialist wars.

I don't get what's up with you ml losers constantly simping for fascism.

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I got banned from Europe on ml because I've called out a link to Russia Today (and called me russophobic along the way). They are so anti-imperialist they started simping another imperialist force.

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nibblerreply
discuss.tchncs.de

I mean, sovereign states are seemingly a potential military target, so who would have thought that includes weapons factories.

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m532reply
lemmy.ml

Which sovereign states?

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m532reply
lemmy.ml

But are those sovereign?

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m532reply

"Ukraine gov is totally not a puppet of usa, I'll prove it with some unrelated idiotic comic"

Libs don't know how proof works

"Waah my narrative is failing, quick lets do another cia talking point"

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The whole damn world! The rooskies are gonna attack everybody cause they're orcs!

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