New Polls: Democrats Demand 2028 Presidential Nominee Back Arms Embargo and Sanctions On Israel
cross-posted from: https://piefed.world/c/politics/p/1357623/new-polls-democrats-demand-2028-presidential-nominee-back-arms-embargo-and-sanctions-on
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The establishment doesn't take demands. You are their bitch as far as they are concerned.
Fuck Isreal, bomb Russia into compliance, Medicare for all, abortion on demand. Those are my least radical items that need support for a vote.
I say end all participation in all wars. No more guns, bombs, or weapons for anyone. Focus on domestic infrastructure and services.
I hear Democrats LOUD and CLEAR! NEWSOME it IS!
-HIGHLY Paid Democratic Strategists!
More recently, the AIPAC strategy on Israel is to splinter where it sends money and attack candidates on grounds fully independent of Israel.
Maine was a great example of this in action (for better or worse). Platner was taken down (belatedly) based on his history of infidelity and misogynist violence. Francesca Hong lost to David Crowley largely because of the endless harping on her excessively-Woke views on Thanksgiving. El-Sayed is facing a deluge of TERFism going into the general, paid for by a constellation of Zionist-backed media. Mamdani getting an endless hate-parade from the NYPost on anything tangentially related to cops.
I suspect the AIPAC playbook is going to look very similar to the New Labour playbook in the UK. You'll get smeared from every angle except support for Palestine.
Candidates lose when nobody endorses them. In Hong’s case she could’ve pulled through with a Bernie or AOC endorsement.
The other 2 should’ve never entered. Campaigns are popularity contests and if you know you’re unlikely to win voters or have skeletons in your closet you should stay home or work for somebody else’s campaign.
Zohran Mamdani and Abdul El-Sayed? They did win
The DNC to voters,
Failed to load media, if this is intentional it still fits.
Ha! I guess so. It was a gif of groundskeeper Willie, "Willie hears ya, and Willie doesn't care"
Optimistic to think that there will be legit elections in 2028. Watch this next election. Mail in voting is fucked., Trump is going to put his ICE stasi at polling places to suppress turnout, and there will likely be violence. Even if democrats win control, there will be claims of voter fraud and a refusal to swear them in. Mark my words, the MAGA era won't end until the U.S. is in total collapse and they are physically removed. What the people want doesn't matter, as MAGA has seized control and ejected from military leadership those who oppose them. Things are going to get a whole lot worse before they can get better.
Ironic, since this comment also seems to have the goal of suppressing voter turnout.
It is necessary to point out the shit that Trump et al are doing, and to also express concern that traditional methods of change such as voting are at risk and may not work as they should, but do not try to convince others that it’s pointless to even try. At best you come off as someone who has given up on democracy and are advocating for an immediate violent revolt, and at worst you sound like a fascist plant.
*This isn’t to say that a violent revolt might not be necessary in the end, it very well may; but when there’s still a chance to elect more progressive leadership to save this country from fascism, we have to try. Turning to violence should be a last resort, and while we are unfortunately absolutely getting appallingly close to it, this wave of progressive support means we aren’t there quite yet, and there is other work to be done
That was not my intent. I just call it like I see it. By all means, everyone should get out and vote.
Ok good. Totally understandable to be skeptical and angry, hell, fucking furious at the situation we find ourselves in. I just wanted to emphasize (not even necessarily to you, but to anyone who might be reading) it’s important not to give up on things like activism and voting while they might still have an effect.
Again this next part isn’t aimed at you but rather at everyone, but there’s a concept I’ve seen here on Lemmy a few times lately that is very appropriate for our current situation called the four boxes of liberty that basically says that there are 4 boxes citizens can use to defend liberty / prevent fascism; the soap box (free speech), ballot box, jury box, and ammo box. It seems like the upcoming elections may be our last opportunity to utilize the soap and ballot boxes, and since the jury box already seems to be almost entirely either corrupted or populated with limp-dick cowards, the ammo box might indeed be just around the corner. Still, we gotta try the soap and ballot while we still can
If lying to people to achieve the common good (which is to say better than the common worst) worked, the democrats would be in power.
You are the reason we lose, not the one you are trashing. Enough lies.
94% of democrats thought Harris was the best candidate in 2024 so remember that when you see Michigan and its 65% in this poll.
You have a source for that 94% poll?
Maybe 94% of self described democrats, I have to tell you I got a lot higher percent of agreement amongst people that vote democratic arguing to nominate someone that doesn't suck so much. I was roundly shouted down but still got support.
I googled so you didn't have to.
That's a poll between a Harris and Trump in California after she'd already been selected as the nominee you disingenuous twat.
Here's one from Oct 1-12 2024 with the same number.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/652178/harris-approval-rating-higher-biden.aspx
What the fuck do you think you're trying to show here? That's another poll from even closer to the election about approval for an already selected candidate. Do you read the things you post?
That 94% of democrats thought Harris was the best candidate in 2024 just like my original comment stated.
That is interesting thanks for sharing. I feel like this is a push poll or that gallup there disingenuously explained what people were agreeing to.
Although to be fair some of the actual leftists I know, including the more radical ones, were not aware kamala was going to lose. I did.
41% of independents and 8% of republicans approved of her in the same poll.
I don't recall us actually having a choice between dems to vote for, so this criticism seems disingenuous at best.. she was better than trump, almost anyone is, but a primary would likely have resulted in a better candidate.