U.S.-Canada trade talks collapse, setting new 50% tariffs in motion
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All of this is so dumb, my god.
Fucking 3 year olds.
"50%!!"
"55%"
"100%"
"Infinity percent"
"Infinity percent plus one".
I hate how accurate this is and the fact that, no matter whose hands we place this power in, we as a working class are fucked.
At a certain point just close the border. It isn't as if Canadians are going to want to buy any USA products now anyway is it?
Carney: Tariffs will only hurt the American people... Same breath.. we will match the tariffs for Canadians dollar for dollar.
bullshit carney did not say tarrifs only hurt american people this is a lie and you are a liar for repeating a lie. liar.
I suppose you are right Only is a incorrect word to use.
Yeah, let's let the bully get their way, that'll only work out well for us.
Edit in case someone needs a meme to understand that eye for an eye doesn't apply to every situation evenly
If you are content to throw around pithy aphorisms in place of rational discussion, consider that an eye for an eye leaves the world blind.
You realize dollar for dollar doesn't mean retaliation with tariffs directly, right? There are other tools in the toolbox.
Bring on the export tariffs on potash and oil.
Uh huh. So I guess you have no idea what happens when you cowtow to a rapist country that is content to keep taking whatever it deems fit
You're a treacherous POS if you think whatever you said isn't completely stupid
Buddy, you are ALL up in your feels and not in control of yourself. You're not responding to what I wrote, you're responding to voices in your head. I was commenting on the quality of your argument, not on the underlying truth of the situation. The point being made is that any position can be justified when you use cliches instead of actual reasoning. For that you have to resort to childish name calling? Clearly you are not being a serious person right now. If you can pull yourself together, you're welcome to try again, but I have reported your abusive comment.
I'd also like to add that even if I was advocating for Canada to be annexed or some shit like that, your response would still be unacceptable. You don't get to abuse people because you don't respect their opinions. That's fucked up.
Welcome to Lemmy, where insults are thrown around freely and any comments encouraging constructive discourse is voted straight to the bottom of the thread.
We like to think that this forum is a place for intellectuals, but it's unfortunately just another mirror of society.
The statement about tarrifs hurting american people wasn't in the statement yesterday, but it has been said before. He doesn't mean they hurt US people solely, he means they bring no benefit to the american people.
So while it sucks for everyone, I think the point he's trying to make is to highlight that the canadian gov is using the retalitory tarrifs to mitigate the damage caused by US tarrifs, not just for punishment or to impose a tax on canadians. Perhaps important to note is that it's "dollar-for-dollar" not like-for-like, as to reduce impact on sensitive sectors.
Canadian EXPORT tariffs make even more Canadian products more expensive in the US, on items the US has no choice but to buy from Canada, like Potash and oil.
That's not a tariff, that's an excise tax.
I'm not following? Is this a correction or an addition to something in my comment?
Yeah, tariffs also hurt the importer. Hopefully they're going to target industries that Canadians are less reliant on / can easily substitute with domestic or allied nations' goods. The restrictions on US alcohol worked well for this.
There may also be some industries where, if you are reliant on America and you believe that's a problem in the long-term, then cutting that reliance down may justify the harm of the tariff.