Shchadov was portrayed in the HBO mini series Chernobyl by Michael Colgan,[9] but the drama lowered his age and depth of experience in the coal industry for dramatic and narrative purposes.[10]
Chernobyl pisses me off because its a genuinely excellent piece of television in terms of the cinematography, casting, acting, set design, storytelling etc. but of COURSE it has to toe the line on the ahistorical and unscientific propaganda bullshit around chernobyl to ruin all the hard work people put into the show.
Ugh no he wasn't? Schadov was born in a peasant family in Irkutsk Region and up until 1944 (when he was 17) he was working around/on collective farm. In 1944 he entered a college, finished in 1948 at the age of 21 and was assigned as a mechanic to a mine.
So no, he didn't mine coal since he was a teenager.
Edit: oh golly y'all are sensitive about Soviet propaganda. The scene in Chernobyl is bollocks because a) nobody in USSR would put a finger on a minister; b) at the depicted moment from 1979 Schadov was in his late 50s; c) he was generally respected by working miners and the dispute was about administrative measures.
That's a different source which also doesn't say that he worked in mines. It literally just says "started working at 15'. And it overlooks his college period where he was educated to do that work later.
С 1936 года учился школе, окончив в 1943 году 7 классов. Затем в течение одного года работал в колхозе «Ангарстрой» (до осени 1944 года). В сентябре 1944 года приехал в Черемхово и поступил там на электромеханическое отделение горного техникума (ЧГТ).
В 1948 году окончил Черемховский горный техникум, был отличником. Все дипломы с отличием:
окончил в 1953 году Высшие инженерные курсы при Томском политехническом институте по специальности «Разработка пластовых (угольных) месторождений», горный инженер;
в 1965 году — Всесоюзный финансово-экономический заочный институт по специальности «Экономика промышленности», экономист; и в том же году — Высшую партийную школу при ЦК КПСС.
В 1977 г. успешно выполнил учебный план и выпускную работу в Институте управления народным хозяйством в области современных методов управления, организации производства и планирования с применением экономико-математических методов и вычислительной техники.
Трудовую деятельность начал с 15 лет. После окончания техникума получил распределение на шахту и был назначен механиком участка шахты, с мая 1949 года начальник участка, затем заместитель главного механика шахты.
После окончания в 1948 г. Черемховского горного техникума М.И. Щадов работал электрослесарем на шахте "Коксовая" им. Сталина в Кузбассе,
затем механиком, начальником участка, ...
В Томском политехническом институте (университете)
ВИК начали работать в 1948 г. В 1950 г. приехал учиться из
Черемхова Михаил Иванович Щадов. Ему было тогда
23 года, но он уже владел немалым жизненным багажом –
отлично окончил горный техникум, три года отработал механиком участка шахты
There are no sources that claim that he was in mines since teen years. At best he was around mines at 17. No evidence whatsoever that he was a miner, more an engineer.
He started his career at the age of 15. After graduating from the technical school, he received a distribution to the mine and was appointed mechanic of the mine, since May 1949, the head of the site, then the deputy chief mechanic of the mine. After graduating from the Higher Engineering Courses - Chief Mine Engineer, since 1955 - the head of mines. Manager of the Trust "Mamslyuda" (1960-1963). Since 1966, he worked at the Vostsibugol plant as deputy chief, then as the head of the plant, then as the general director of Vostsibugol software. Deputy Minister (1977), First Deputy Minister (1981), Minister (1985-1991) of the USSR Coal Industry. President of the International Mining Congress, Director General of the Finance and Industrial Complex "Transugol" (1991).
I looked through a couple different sources and a lot of them seem to conflict with each other. There are some that claim he came from a peasant family, when it seems his father was instead a chairman of a kolkhoz, which would be a fairly influential local leader who would work directly with the central party.
There are sources that claim he began his career as a site manager, mechanic, or electrical technician at the age of 15 or 17. He has sources claiming that he graduated in 47, 48, and 53 from two different technical colleges and then getting a degree in economics in 65.
It really is hard to parse out exactly what is what especially since a lot of the different bibliographies have broken original sources or are just missing.
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Lmao even wiki calls on this "perfect" narrative:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Shchadov
better to just copy the text, comrade :^)
But an image contains a 1000 words /s
or just 35 in this instance
Chernobyl pisses me off because its a genuinely excellent piece of television in terms of the cinematography, casting, acting, set design, storytelling etc. but of COURSE it has to toe the line on the ahistorical and unscientific propaganda bullshit around chernobyl to ruin all the hard work people put into the show.
Subconscious propaganda is pushed super hard in all mainstream Western entertainment when you start investigating it. It's all very much on purpose.
I recently found out many of the most racist anti-Muslim trope characters in C&C Generals Zero Hour were voiced by an Israeli Jew
Ugh no he wasn't? Schadov was born in a peasant family in Irkutsk Region and up until 1944 (when he was 17) he was working around/on collective farm. In 1944 he entered a college, finished in 1948 at the age of 21 and was assigned as a mechanic to a mine.
So no, he didn't mine coal since he was a teenager.
Edit: oh golly y'all are sensitive about Soviet propaganda. The scene in Chernobyl is bollocks because a) nobody in USSR would put a finger on a minister; b) at the depicted moment from 1979 Schadov was in his late 50s; c) he was generally respected by working miners and the dispute was about administrative measures.
But the statement in screenshot is still wrong.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Shchadov
That's incorrect translation.
He only arrived in Chremkhovo when he was 17.
I don't think the translation is incorrect. If you want to doubt something you can only doubt the original source being incorrect
That's a different source which also doesn't say that he worked in mines. It literally just says "started working at 15'. And it overlooks his college period where he was educated to do that work later.
Source your own claim then
Sure why not
https://itexts.net/avtor-mihail-ivanovich-schadov/
Another one, https://www.ugolinfo.ru/Free/spec2007.pdf
There are no sources that claim that he was in mines since teen years. At best he was around mines at 17. No evidence whatsoever that he was a miner, more an engineer.
Translated:
I looked through a couple different sources and a lot of them seem to conflict with each other. There are some that claim he came from a peasant family, when it seems his father was instead a chairman of a kolkhoz, which would be a fairly influential local leader who would work directly with the central party.
There are sources that claim he began his career as a site manager, mechanic, or electrical technician at the age of 15 or 17. He has sources claiming that he graduated in 47, 48, and 53 from two different technical colleges and then getting a degree in economics in 65.
It really is hard to parse out exactly what is what especially since a lot of the different bibliographies have broken original sources or are just missing.