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Surveillance State. NSW Police to seize mobile phone data without a warrant

So this is super sucky and likely to spread. Alternate source. Key points, at roadside stops etc, people are required to give access to their phones using Cellebrite Israeli phone crackers, likely to download a complete image. No limits placed on data retention, no noted protection against Cellebrite having unfettered access.

Has it gotten to the point where we should be striving to keep only a minimum viable configuration on phones and have some sort of searchable backup on a home server, or even an out of country VPS? Anyone got any suggestions on how to achieve this?

Having GrapheneOS doesn't help much when it's a ten year felony to refuse access. AFAIK it's still a warrant to get access to your home computer, for now.

This may get shot down in the courts, but that won't help much if it happens to you in the meantime, this stuff is forever. The right to digital privacy has the price of eternal vigilence, but they just keep raising the bar on how onerous that vigilence is.

https://michaelwest.com.au/the-police-state-of-nsw-legislation-to-enable-warrant-less-phone-suriveilance/Open linkView original on slrpnk.net
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aussie.zone

God I hate labor right so fucking much and I hate how much labor left enables them

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reddthat.com

Exactly. How the fuck is this a left wing policy? What the fuck is the “left” faction doing enabling the enforcers of a fascist state?

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Honestly I believe they dont think how it could be used against them. There's also a tendency to compromise too much and be defensive which ofc just accelerates the decline

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Labor are neoliberals, first and foremost. They've made that abundantly clear most of my adult life. They're only left of unapologetic fascism, but these criminally corrupt, treasonous, crimes against humanity prove the difference is superficial.

We live in capitalist dictatorships masquerading as "democracy". Every business is an oligarchy/plutocracy, and all major political parties reflect their profit motives. They used their capital to "seize the means of democracy".

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slrpnk.net

Also note that it's stated to be already the case in QLD, VIC, although details are unclear.

Not a peep from mainstream media AFAICT.

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Honestly didnt know that. I do need to keep ontop of these things but as you said mainstream media dont say much on it

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piefed.social

Having GrapheneOS doesn't help much when it's a ten year felony to refuse access

It's my interpretation that "access" means you have to give them your phone physically. Otherwise Cellebrite wouldn't be needed

people are required to give access to their phones using Cellebrite Israeli phone crackers

We know Cellebrite can't crack GrapheneOS.

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We know Cellebrite can’t crack GrapheneOS.

Yah, one of the reasons gOS is hated and I have it :) but you know Cellebrite is looking for that zero day. Still an issue for the other 99.9%.

It’s my interpretation that “access” means you have to give them your phone physically. Otherwise Cellebrite wouldn’t be needed

Your lips to gods ears... But until it's clarified legally the pessimistic interpretation is you have to unlock it (otherwise impeding an investigation or some shit) and then they use Cellebrite to suck it dry.

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Great job. I wonder if this passes, if NSW police will celebrate by strip searching more kids at central station.

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What if run android vm at home and stream to phone only, no data on there? Or every app launch through ssh with something like xpipe/waypipe/wprs? Basically put real phone at home and only carry thin client.

If no data to extract what they do?

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slrpnk.net

Interesting, might be an option. Likely Cellebrite can pull your ssh key though, but OTP or something plus kill switch, maybe. Worth thinking about.

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reddthat.com

Two factor ssh (likely two hop, one key one password). And could take down server remotely before control and claim "my homeserver very unstable".

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Yeah, something like that. Damn shame we even have to consider it though.

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lemmy.zip

Wait, like every rest stop you go to will have a cop waiting there for you, to check your phone. Like in a line?

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slrpnk.net

Nah, pulled over for speeding or something, random breath tests, etc.

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Telorandreply
reddthat.com

If an authoritarian regime doesn't like you, it doesn't matter what you say. You can "be careful" all you like, and they will find other spurious reasons to abuse you (such as accent, parentage, skin color, sexual orientation, etc.). It might change who they go after first, but operating within their guidelines is not some guarantee of safety.

No, your best bet is to be loud, proud, and to join with others and tear down the system that enables this kind of abuse. We do not need to accept this as inevitable.

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Telorandreply
reddthat.com

Put simply, there are advantages to appearing unthreatening, stupid, and boring.

I agree, but anyone with the same notion should ask themselves: are you appearing to be all those things, or are you just trying to convince yourself that you're more than that? Because unless you're actually doing something useful in secret, I submit that you're actually just unthreatening, stupid, and/or boring.

And to be clear, I'm using a royal "you," not directing that at any one person.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

I still say the things so people know they aren't alone in their thoughts. They aren't the crazy ones to think it.

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