Though I do wonder where society is supposed to draw the line on this. Selling sex to boys is endemic. Babs Lola Bunny is pretty openly sexualized as just one of many examples. Why are Elvira's low cut dresses not-OK but Col Wilma Deering's skin-tight jumpsuits are OK?
I had a dream recently about Deanna Troi and debating with myself how she was supposed to be hot. I concluded in dream logic that she was NOT, some contrast to Seven of Nine, who was obviously... What. They're hot ladies wearing ridiculous getups. Synthetic fibers look weird friend, that's the post dream logic
They're both fantastic characters, played by fantastic actors, don't get me wrong. But TNG and subsequent spinoffs was so AWKWARD as deployed by middle aged dads, fuck I am unable. I do love voyager and ds9
Oh my fucking god it is marvelous trash! There is enough cringe in there to fuel the shame of multiple generations of teenagers!
Thank you so much for this tip! It is sexist while making it clear who actually is the problem, it is offensive while deservedly pissing on the morality nazis, i love it!
Elvira was fun but absolutely a caricature. Cassandra on the other hand is still the real deal. I was a little disappointed with her participation in the Rob Zombie Munsters train wreck. Her showing up as Elvira wouldn't have saved it. But would have made it more entertaining. As opposed to just painful. I really wanted to like it just from the casting of Sylvester as Grandpa's assistant. But then maybe I'm just too big of a who fan lol.
Was Elvira, Mistress of the Dark the first "make fun of b-movies" TV show? I'm 53 and I remember watching her show and the hilariously awful horror films as a tweener.
She certainly wasn't the first horror hostess. Vampyra and Tarantula Ghoul have her beat out by about a decade. But the combination of camp and comedy she brought were definitely her own. The camp coming from the time she worked with drag queens. And the comedy she developed in the Groundlings with Paul Reubens.
The only thing remotely close I can remember in the decades that followed would be Svengoolie? But that's more goofy than anything else.
Elvira is awesome. I always thought she was interesting, but I mostly saw her in advertisements and never saw enough of her to really appreciate the character. This Matt Baume video essay really upped my respect for her:
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Elvira is under rated
And underappreciated! She's a treasure.
Yeah, usually TV would give her a PG or PG-13 but she’s clearly not meant for children. :V
Hey-o!
Though I do wonder where society is supposed to draw the line on this. Selling sex to boys is endemic.
BabsLola Bunny is pretty openly sexualized as just one of many examples. Why are Elvira's low cut dresses not-OK but Col Wilma Deering's skin-tight jumpsuits are OK?Oh my God, I forgot about the zipperrrrrr
Cause she'd need two more tits to equal one of Elvira's.
As Yakko and Wakko say, Hello, Nurse!
Wanted to say that - this poor gal needs a very strong hex to get a fraction of Elviras might.
It's not skin tight and it's very rigid.
There might as well have been a man under the jumpsuit.
I had a dream recently about Deanna Troi and debating with myself how she was supposed to be hot. I concluded in dream logic that she was NOT, some contrast to Seven of Nine, who was obviously... What. They're hot ladies wearing ridiculous getups. Synthetic fibers look weird friend, that's the post dream logic
Between Deanna's plunging neckline, ability to read minds and her no-nonsense attitude, she inspired equal amounts of arousal and anxiety.
They're both fantastic characters, played by fantastic actors, don't get me wrong. But TNG and subsequent spinoffs was so AWKWARD as deployed by middle aged dads, fuck I am unable. I do love voyager and ds9
Why... whatever do you mean?
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Yeah. So that was not attractive
Plunging neckline? Looks pretty high to me
Both Elvira and Cassandra.
The Elvira movie is, by today's standards, offensive as fuck.
Which also makes it refreshing to watch, it has a couple of superbly delivered gags! It's still so much fun!
https://youtu.be/mbejXti_sgg
I'm gonna watch this trash tonight, thanks for the rec!
Oh my fucking god it is marvelous trash! There is enough cringe in there to fuel the shame of multiple generations of teenagers!
Thank you so much for this tip! It is sexist while making it clear who actually is the problem, it is offensive while deservedly pissing on the morality nazis, i love it!
I'm glad you liked it :)
It's a solid classic in the drag community. 10/10 hilarious camp.
Heh and there's good reason for that.
She shaped what I find attractive at a young age.
Elvira was fun but absolutely a caricature. Cassandra on the other hand is still the real deal. I was a little disappointed with her participation in the Rob Zombie Munsters train wreck. Her showing up as Elvira wouldn't have saved it. But would have made it more entertaining. As opposed to just painful. I really wanted to like it just from the casting of Sylvester as Grandpa's assistant. But then maybe I'm just too big of a who fan lol.
Was Elvira, Mistress of the Dark the first "make fun of b-movies" TV show? I'm 53 and I remember watching her show and the hilariously awful horror films as a tweener.
She certainly wasn't the first horror hostess. Vampyra and Tarantula Ghoul have her beat out by about a decade. But the combination of camp and comedy she brought were definitely her own. The camp coming from the time she worked with drag queens. And the comedy she developed in the Groundlings with Paul Reubens.
The only thing remotely close I can remember in the decades that followed would be Svengoolie? But that's more goofy than anything else.
Elvira is awesome. I always thought she was interesting, but I mostly saw her in advertisements and never saw enough of her to really appreciate the character. This Matt Baume video essay really upped my respect for her:
https://youtu.be/Gm5jcF4i3O0
My heart’s on fire.