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lemmy.zip

What self-respecting Klingon would marry someone that orders their steak burnt?

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Warl0k3reply
lemmy.world

I know it's a common joke, but man steak elitism is so lame. So long as they eat & enjoy the steak, why do you care how it was cooked?

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BillyClarkreply
piefed.social

Recently, I was telling some older people about what a Rickroll was, and I mentioned why I thought Never Gonna Give You Up worked so well. Some of the reasons were that it was instantly recognizable in the first second of the song, that Rick Astley doesn't look like you'd expect if you'd only heard the song, that he dances the whitest white guy dance ever, and that the song itself is actually a pretty good song.

My brother heard that and immediately strongly disagreed with me, saying that Never Gonna Give You Up is an objectively bad song, that everybody agrees, and that's why they hate being Rickrolled.

It topped the charts in 25 countries when it first came out, but it's a bad song? I guess that can happen, but I don't think so in this case. What I think happened is that the song has been associated with a negative meme so prominently that some people judge it by that rather than on its own merits.

Anyways, my point is that I suspect that the Rickroll meme has influenced my brother so that he cannot enjoy a song that he'd otherwise like. I think there are parallels to the well-done steak thing. Sometimes, memes can ruin otherwise enjoyable experiences, even if they're just jokes.

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I think I broadly agree, that while the joke in isolation is inoffensive it's been the frequency with which that joke is used in a context where it literally "yucks someone's yum" that has characterized it so negatively for me. That's a very interesting perspective, thank you!

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SippyCupreply
lemmy.world

Man I've had some disappointing steak. I've finished some crimes to steak and lied through my sore jaw about how good it was. I've had steak served so rare it was still cold in the middle. As if it had been cooked until barely warm on the outside, from frozen. Despite that establishment swearing it only ever serves fresh, never frozen anything.

I've never once had a steak so bad it made me not ever want steak again.

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And on the other hand, I've had some very good steak, regardless of its doneness. I've had surprisingly good well-done steak, even though I generally order it medium. I've enjoyed quite rare steak, as well as raw beef (but not a steak). Each piece of meat, if prepared well according to the standards of that dish, was wonderful.

When people complain about other people's preferences... Well, my experiences have simply not led me to a point where I think I'd want to do that.

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Is it similar to the whole "Nickelback bad" thing? They're generic commercial rock, bland and easy to listen to, but they're not really bad. Their sings got played, placed in the charts and all. For many people "safe" and "easy to listen to" are desirable traits in music, and Nickelback caters to that market quite well.

But then some cunt started making jokes about how much he hated them ("they say rock music doesn't make people violent, but listening to Nickelback makes me want to kill Nickelback") and the jokes somehow took off and I eventually found myself hating a band I'd never actually listened to.

(I mean, the joke is funny. Tasteless, uncalled for but definitely funny.)

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You're right of course, but the difference is that done Steak is simply not a pleasurable experience as opposed to Never Gonna Give You Up

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lemmy.zip

So you knew it was a joke, in response to a joke post, and you still felt the need to respond that way?

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Warl0k3reply
lemmy.world

A joke that is lame despite being common, yes. You can still be toxic, even if you're acting that way ironically.

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lemmy.zip

I know it's a common complaint, but man joke elitism is so lame. So long as they chuckle & enjoy the joke, why do you care that they made it?

Get over yourself, dweeb. And stop diluting the meaning of things like "toxic" with overuse.

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Warl0k3reply
lemmy.world

The degree to which someone enjoys their steak cooked is a choice that effects nobody but themselves - mocking someone for it is a choice that affects someone else negatively. Which I assume you know, and your reaction is just down to not enjoying having your poor behavior called out?

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lemmy.zip

My reaction is due to being baffled why someone would respond this way to a post about a species that famously likes much of their food raw, or even still living.

You are a douche. People who like their steak medium-well do not need your douche ass riding to their rescue. If they can chew that leather they're tough enough to handle themselves.

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i gotta be honest here. she sounds respectful. you appear to be the douche.

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... Dude this a conversation about how steak is cooked.

I called one very minor thing you did "lame". It seems genuinely concerning that your reaction is this extreme over such a very mild callout.

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It's more honorable if you need to fight your steak while chewing.
If that means that it's raw, still alive and fleeing or so hard to chew that you get tears in your eyes is up to you (and Kahless).

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lemmy.world

Was wondering how a ribcage skull could possibly be beneficial. It might be worthwhile if they have a chaotic circulatory system that allows for expansion of the brain case under times of stress.

Or maybe metal for armor is just that much more common on Qo'noS compared to calcium so a new fitness maximun was found.

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A previous evolution frequently BONKed foes with their foreheads, like a Pachycephalasaur?

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lemmy.ml

Holy shit I only now realized Dwight Schultz was on the A-Team lol. To be honest he sounds quite normal but of course has his unique mannerisms.

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rainwallreply
piefed.social

Hes has been a right wing podcaster and radio host for more than a decade and is a big MAGA supporter:

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Dwight_Schultz

Schultz made a name for himself as a Rush Limbaugh wannabe, hosting the conservative talk radio podcast Howling Mad Radio,[1] writing on the blog Big Hollywood (Breitbart)[2] and acting as a substitute host for America's favorite talk-radio Republican Michael Savage. The Howling Mad Radio podcast ended in 2009.

Schultz is a big Donald Trump fan and is critical of both Republicans and Democrats who are against Trump. Schultz criticized John McCain for criticizing Trump, gone after Fox News host Chris Wallace for being upset after Trump called the news media an enemy of the American people, called Debbie Wasserman Schultz a liar for warning that Republican policies were dangerous for Israel, and called Barack Obama a "hard left socialist", among other disparaging declarations.[3]

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Damn. Thanks for letting me know. I really need a browser plugin that lets me know immediately if a celebrity is a monster or not before I say anything about them lol.

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