Fiat launches Topolino mini EV in U.S. with $13,995 price tag
Car has range up to 46 miles, speed up to 25 mph
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It's a big fucking golf cart
It's legally not a car, but a quadricycle.
Those doors really inspire more FIAT jokes....go!
It's a death trap on US roads. It's going to be run over by a pickup truck on the first day.
Sounds like a problem with US roads having too many poorly designed vehicles that endanger others, not a problem with this vehicle. If the road is too unsafe for this surely it's too unsafe for cyclists and other light vehicles.
Yeah exactly. Like why do you need a 4 ton truck to go to the grocery store?
Not US road legal.
In Europe it works well tho. For narrow and slow roads is good
ok, but getting hit in this is about as safe as a motorcycle.
I think these actually aren't even street legal in most states.
Yeah so if I understand correctly, it doesn't actually hit the minimum federal requirements to access public roads without that upgrade kit.
In Europe it does 45 km/h, so I don’t understand why they limited the US model to 19 mph
So it's classified as a quadricycle, basically a mobility scooter with a roof.
Really tough sell when there are cheap used EVs on the market. Bought my 2013 Nissan Leaf for <$5k, ~60 miles range (given degradation), >80mph. There are only going to be better options out there as time goes on and more used EVs hit the market.
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Just get an e-bike then.
Ebikes go faster. This is a Boomer car for gated communities that lock out brown people.
Expensive golf cart that won't even fit the clubs. Well done.
It's a Stellantis product so it will probably be a gigantic pile of shit.
Or more accurately a sub compact pile of shit.
It's a rebranded citroen ami. So a PSA product, which might be worse (they're all stellantis now though).
I've driven one (The original, Citroen EV AMi, of which this is a badge engineered version) in Madrid. It's well suited to European cities, and probably to NY, Boston, Pittsburgh, SF, and some others of that type of layout. That thing is a glorified golf cart, as many have said. Naked tubular frame covered by a cheap plastic shell, about as safe as the aforementioned golf cart, but street legal. nearly zero equipment beyond a cigarette lighter power socket. In Europe it costs around 7.000€, and I find that a huge ripoff. I could probably put together such a low tech cart for under 2.000€, not hyperbole. With economies of scale, Stellantis can probably make them for under 1.500€ or less. They want to sell them in the U.S. for 10x the mark-up...
Well, at least there is the legendary Stellantis reliability.
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That rope looks pretty safe...
I could see retirees in South Carolina and Florida gated communities driving around with this and trying to out-Karen each other
That's all this is for. The current options are Chinese Scooters, which are only $4K.
It cost half that price in Europe. It makes no sense to buy something like this if it cost more than $13.000. I don't understand why they would release it at that price, if they couldn't get it any lower they should have just abstained.
Because braindead Boomers buy anything.
Is this a joke?
No more a joke than any other Stellantis vehicle.
Have you seen the Renault Twizy? Top selling plug in electric vehicle in Europe in 2012, and it looks even more like a sci-fi concept car.
Yes that's ridiculous too, the thing is kind of cute, but the price of that type of vehicle is insane.
Here that's not called a car, but a cabin scooter. Like this:
https://lindebjerg.dk/shop/kabinescooter-country-572p.html
They are way to expensive, but can be driven legally under different laws than a real car, and that make them cheaper to have.
IDK why that type of what isn't more than an E-Bike with a tiny cabin are so expensive? 10 years ago you could get an actual ICE car for that price, that could drive 130 km/h on Autobahn, and could take 4 passengers and drive 500 km on a tank.
Do the math. With fuel savings and easy parking, it's a free car in 5 years. No, 10 years ago you could not buy an ICE car for €10,000.
Doesn't change the fact that they are overpriced.
Relative to Chinese options, yes. But this has a dealer network for support.
Y'know those fishing tales told by ICE officers are as real as Abagnale's stories, right?
It's like we're all in on it
Is the conversion kit /addon free or in addition to the 14K USD price?