Considering the captcha doesn't actually know, and just judges if you are correct based off of other users entries I would click on it.
My guess is most users would click it, but it's ambiguous enough that you'd probably pass the captcha either way.
The Cube Rule is the most definitive and authoritative categorization of food topology I have encountered. I refer to it often in food related arguments.
Although the bagel half on the bottom and the top are split toroids, topologically they are flat (you can 'deform' it into a flat plane if you squish it). This is assuming it hasn't been cut down the center as well.
The filling of PB&J is between the two starches. Therefore this is Food Type 2: Sandwich.
I suppose it is neither a taco or a sand which, however it lives within the sandwich family. What's weird is if we take the inner radius as it runs towards zero it would look no different to a sandwich (save the weirdly thick bread that looks similar to a burger), but it would be topologically different shape.
I suppose it depends on if you consider a bagle split more naturally a sandwich or not, and, if so, then it matters if the if the space of the filling being connected matters or not.
If you take the traditional idea of a sandwich and draw a loop around the plane where the surfaces come together you get a mathematical sandwich.
Since the bagel abomination has two such areas and you can draw non-intersecting loops around each, it follows that there are indeed two sandwiches present.
That depends on your definition of a sandwichable surface. If crust can be buttered as well and is considered equal to cut surfaces (which, coming from a rye bread country, is certainly the case with these fluffy things), then this is simply a sandwich without filling in the middle. This might also be achieved by suboptimal spreading on a single surface.
I'm pretty sure it counts as a sandwich as defined by the ham sandwich theorem. The only part that might be debatable is that the filling is not a single connected volume, but that doesn't seem to be required by the proof.
A calzone is a wrap/burrito. Unless uncrustables are in play and are recognized as their own distinct category. In which case a calzone is an uncrustable or vice versa
Pastries are an umbrella category of baked goods that are usually but not always sweet. The composition of the dough and preparation techniques are different and distinct from the sandwich debate. Though I guess you could make the case for empanadas. Or that calzones are large Italian empanadas and uncrustables are also a type of empanada. Hmmm 🤔
Bread often has stuff baked into it, so what's the difference between a loaf of bread with cheese or nuts baked into it vs. a loaf with chicken, cheese, and marina sauce baked into it.
So sandwich is the parent category, and hot dogs are a type of sandwich? Are burgers, too?
Oh no I accidentally started researching, there is an actual British Sandwich Association that defines sandwich as "any form of bread with a filling, generally assembled cold". The USDA, however, has different definitions for open and closed sandwiches and it depends on the percentage amounts of bread and meat... I guess if you put cheese on your bread it's not a sandwich at all!
Heresy!
I demand the BSA's definition to be accepted and adopted everywhere!
"if you put cheese on your bread its not a sandwich at all!" - this is unbeliveable and hilarious
I like the way you think. That also leaves open the possibly of the yandwich, which is cut into three equal segments in the same way as the opening post, and the xyandwich when you combine the x and y options.
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I didn't give any definition of bread. The pictured bagel and also a cut-open baguette are bread, but neither of those are slices of bread, but thats what makes a sandwich.
This appears to be a variation of the "standwich." Please see the attached for an example.
The question is, if this appears on a captcha asking to click only on the sandwich images. Would you click on it?
Considering the captcha doesn't actually know, and just judges if you are correct based off of other users entries I would click on it. My guess is most users would click it, but it's ambiguous enough that you'd probably pass the captcha either way.
Ah, so this one would be a double horseshoe standwich?
I miss when Tesco Value ham would label itself as such, rather than hiding behind fake farm names.
Ah, but of course!
It's clearly two sandwichs.
The bold move would be to have the other side have the peanut butter and jelly swapped around. I'd call that the ouroboroswich.
[edit] what if it only had 1 cut? I think that'd be a taco
[edit 2] a torus cut once makes a cylinder. So really, it's a double decker sandwich
[edit 3] but it's cylinders that loop back on themselves. Is it a mobiuswhich or a Klien Wich?
[edit n] help
I'm here for this energy
Okay hear me out, what about the peanut butter on one axis (either conventional sandwich, or this rotated 90 degrees) and the jelly as it is here
What are we dealing with then? This might transcend the cube system of food categorisation.
The Cube Rule is the most definitive and authoritative categorization of food topology I have encountered. I refer to it often in food related arguments.
But what is the abomination I've described? I don't think it fits.
I'm not ready for a world where the cube rule isn't all encompassing
Although the bagel half on the bottom and the top are split toroids, topologically they are flat (you can 'deform' it into a flat plane if you squish it). This is assuming it hasn't been cut down the center as well.
The filling of PB&J is between the two starches. Therefore this is Food Type 2: Sandwich.
Okay but, what about down the centre as well? I think this is where the paved road ends
It is still a Type II sandwich, just that the middle portion is air.
In crappy text form it's equivalent to:
Bread
PB&J | Air | PB&J
Bread
Okay so I think I'm failing miserably at articulating quite the monstrosity I've imagined. For illustrative purposes:
It’s an infinity sandwich.
A mugenwich?
I suppose it is neither a taco or a sand which, however it lives within the sandwich family. What's weird is if we take the inner radius as it runs towards zero it would look no different to a sandwich (save the weirdly thick bread that looks similar to a burger), but it would be topologically different shape.
I suppose it depends on if you consider a bagle split more naturally a sandwich or not, and, if so, then it matters if the if the space of the filling being connected matters or not.
https://cuberule.com/
Hmm... so a steak is a salad, and a salad is nachos? Something screwy here...
Salad is only nachos if it contains croutons, won ton strips, or some other form of free-floating non-structural starch.
I'm amazed this page didn't have a featherless chicken labelled "Human"
Food identification war intensifies
So answer is yes
It's sushi. The carbs form four sides of the cube.
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Hey, pass me that sandwich.
You mean this ba-oh my god.
The last time someone made a bagel with everything on it it put the universe in jeopardy.
The everything bagel needs to include smaller everything bagels on it or it doesn't include everything.
Recursion
It's two sandwiches...topologically speaking.
If you take the traditional idea of a sandwich and draw a loop around the plane where the surfaces come together you get a mathematical sandwich.
Since the bagel abomination has two such areas and you can draw non-intersecting loops around each, it follows that there are indeed two sandwiches present.
That depends on your definition of a sandwichable surface. If crust can be buttered as well and is considered equal to cut surfaces (which, coming from a rye bread country, is certainly the case with these fluffy things), then this is simply a sandwich without filling in the middle. This might also be achieved by suboptimal spreading on a single surface.
I'm pretty sure it counts as a sandwich as defined by the ham sandwich theorem. The only part that might be debatable is that the filling is not a single connected volume, but that doesn't seem to be required by the proof.
It is a sandwich because the toppings are sandwiched between bread. But it's not a good sandwich.
Now, they wouldn't be toppings in this configuration, would they?
middling
Inbetwingers
This is clearly a sandwich. The confusion comes from how absurdly sub-optimal its construction is.
Top bun? Check
Bottom bun? Check
Yep, it's a sandwich. I'd like to see a video of you eating it now.
Political lol
The most political a topic could possibly be, in fact.
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Yes.
A hot dog is also a sandwich
Pretty sure flatbread predated leavened bread, so it’s reasonable to conclude tacos predated both hot dogs and sandwiches.
Conclusion: Hot dogs are tacos, sandwiches are broken tacos.
Are pizzas just unfinished tacos then?
Pizza is just an open face sandwich, but arguments can be made that New York style is a taco because most people fold it to consume it.
Have to ask yourself what a calzone is then.
A calzone is a wrap/burrito. Unless uncrustables are in play and are recognized as their own distinct category. In which case a calzone is an uncrustable or vice versa
Yeah, they’re baked burritos for sure!
Next thing you're going to tell me is a pasty is a burrito.
Pastries are an umbrella category of baked goods that are usually but not always sweet. The composition of the dough and preparation techniques are different and distinct from the sandwich debate. Though I guess you could make the case for empanadas. Or that calzones are large Italian empanadas and uncrustables are also a type of empanada. Hmmm 🤔
Pasty.
A loaf of bread.
Bread often has stuff baked into it, so what's the difference between a loaf of bread with cheese or nuts baked into it vs. a loaf with chicken, cheese, and marina sauce baked into it.
Sort of. As the other commenter pointed out, they are open face.
Sandwiches are broken tacos, but pizzas are not broken.
Pizzas are open face tacos.
and thus kitchens are just covered campfires now?
So sandwich is the parent category, and hot dogs are a type of sandwich? Are burgers, too?
Oh no I accidentally started researching, there is an actual British Sandwich Association that defines sandwich as "any form of bread with a filling, generally assembled cold". The USDA, however, has different definitions for open and closed sandwiches and it depends on the percentage amounts of bread and meat... I guess if you put cheese on your bread it's not a sandwich at all!
Heresy! I demand the BSA's definition to be accepted and adopted everywhere! "if you put cheese on your bread its not a sandwich at all!" - this is unbeliveable and hilarious
I know, lol. Seriously how many well-known sandwiches have “cheese” or “melt” right in their name?!
What? No.
A hot dog is a taco.
A taco is also a sandwich
Ehem, well actually leavened bread came out way after flatbreads - so sandwiches are broken tacos.
It’s all tacos.
Well, everyone knows that.
But by current BSA standards a taco is a sandwitch. So it checks out.
Taco is Mexican for sandwich.
Yes but it’s not a very good one
What do we call it if it is also cut and filled in the conventional bagel plane?
xandwich
I like the way you think. That also leaves open the possibly of the yandwich, which is cut into three equal segments in the same way as the opening post, and the xyandwich when you combine the x and y options.
Not a Δandwich?
Now I'm just getting hungry.
Tesserwich is a possibility if you start fucking around in the Fourth dimension.
I've been trying to work out if, by cutting a helix around the bagel, you can create a mobius type sandwich with two, interlinked parts.
Moving in to higher dimensional bagel cutting is probably the sort of thing you can really make one's brain hurt.
I think a Mobius bagel would be a SCP artifact. In before it's actually cataloged and numbered.
The right answer.
Not an xorwich?
An xorwich would be crosscut, or ripped, but not both.
Sandwich cut in half
I realise that you are correct, but which way is the sandwich, and which way is the cut? It's filled on both planes.
https://cuberule.com/
According to that, I think OP would have a sandwich.
Goodbye horseshoe theory hello half-bagel theory.
The theory of a donut shaped galaxy is genius. I stole it from Homer Simpson.
It's a sandwich, but it's not a sandwich sandwich
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No, a sandwich is made from slices of bread.
Is this not a piece of bread that was sliced in half?
doesn't make it slices
What about an Ice Cream Sandwich? No bread, but sandwich is in the name.
Cube rule says starch is on the outside, so it's a sandwich.
IF you refuse to recognize the cookie as a starch, then an ice cream sandwich is a salad.
Salad, mah fav
thus no sandwich
Are you suggesting that baguette is not bread?
It's definitely not slices of bread.
Maybe it's not pre-sliced industrial factory produced pseudo-bread. Assuming that's what you mean.
But as you described it, it's definitely slices of bread.
It's not sliced bread.
if slicing is the correct term for cutting something in half, then slicing something does not necessarily give you slices
The issue is that you guys
gavehave a very restrictive definition of bread that's very US centric.I didn't give any definition of bread. The pictured bagel and also a cut-open baguette are bread, but neither of those are slices of bread, but thats what makes a sandwich.
A French Sub, so L'Englouti.
a stuffed baguette
you cant just label any combination of food that contains bread a sandwich
Technical definition is a 3-Torus sandwich, defined as any sandwich that is homeomorphic to the Cartesian product of three circles.
Isn't it S_1 x S_1 x [0, 1] here though?
It's a bagel "standwich"
I'd say yes but you definitely have to eat it in that direction.
No, this is a red flag of sociopathic tendency
That, I believe, is what we refer to as an "abomination"
More specifically, tomatoes are berries, as are bananas. But strawberries are not berries at all.
Cucumbers though
Some people just want to watch the world burn.
It is a kind of sandwich.
Strange flex, but okay.
Ugh reddit shiver.
It's clearly a burger.
It fits the description.
No and only demented sociopaths put jelly on the bagel.
Peanut butter goes best with cinnamon raisin bagels should you choose a bagel.
Nothing goes with raisins. They are an abomination and should be outlawed. Especially in baked goods.
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Wall cracks.
It's two conjoined sandwiches.
Yesn’t it ain’t not no sandwich
No it isn't. I won't be clarifying my position
Technically it is, but that doesn't mean I don't hate it
Abhorrent bagel
If I have to see another "is this a sandwich" mind twister, I'm gonna scream.
I don't know but it makes me hungry.
There are some technologies that should remain forbidden…for the safety of all.
If you have a strong opinion either way that's fine with me, I don't want to argue it with you.
You pervert!
It hits all criteria for me to define it as a sandwich. I can eat it and I can stick my dick in it.
A baby is also a sandwich.