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I finally am in the club, 4 accounts banned over a buddy using my wifi... (appeal denied)

Finally in the truly permabanned club.

They have some type of ban detection. I use a VPN and bounce between logging into my different accounts.

Not for ban evasion but for doxxing, I don't post personal info on my politics account, my hobby accounts are pretty open, etc.

I pissed off somebody and the sub reddit banned me. I go thru and filter that sub out of my accounts. Didnt think about other people using my wifi.

Buddy comes over and posts a single post in that sub. His account and ALL of my accounts are now permabanned.

The reason I know is they AI mod replied then deleted a post about ban evasion to him, so he knew the comment he made on what sub and we pieced it together.

The rest of the msgs I got from reddit made no sense as I didn't post in the sub and until he mentioned the reply it all came together.

I would like to know how they are tracking me as I use a VPN. Kinda makes it useless if it doesn't work as advertised. I put an appeal in, we know how thats going to go...

Updates to follow, not that I'm likely to stay on there. Maybe for my hobby subs.

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piefed.world

Yeah their banning system has become too aggressive. I've read quite a few stories like yours, where someone got a sitewide permaban, and if anybody else in the household happened to be using Reddit from that same network, they also caught the permaban on their own accounts too for ban evasion, even if their accounts had no connection whatsoever with the OP's. It's pretty ridiculous and they are becoming too ban happy like Facebook.

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lemmy.world

I will say the one great thing to come out of this is coming back to Lemmy. Its different but I'll get used to it. I was on here previously just didnt take at the time.

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piefed.world

In that case you might like to try out Piefed! It accesses the same threads as Lemmy and also the new Piefed instances as well, if you found Lemmy difficult to stick with due to the way it works it might be better for you. piefed.world is ran by the same people that setup lemmy.world.

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I'll check it out, I do say I like the lemmy old view vs the FB/New reddit feed. I just have to get out there and load up on all my favorite subject for the subscribed feed.

I never like endless reddit so thats not an issue.

But will check out piefed and see how its navigation is. Thank you!

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Device fingerprint, browser ID, text and behavioral analysis and some more unknown things.

Basically you have to buy a new phone, make completely brand new google/apple users on that phone, never use your home WiFi for Reddit ever again, that IP is tainted permanently. Then make it appear that the phone has actual history instead of a just a blank slate. Then join Reddit, but don't do anything atypical of a new user, otherwise you get shadowbanned aka not joining too many subs in rapid succession, not having full blown discussions. Basically laying low for a few weeks to months.

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Wait so if I VM'ed it would likely trip off the behavioral analysis as I would blank out my history in every instance? Also probably the device finger print?

The world is getting Draconian.

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There's a few ways I could think of to connect these things together

  1. Perfect VPN opsec is actually pretty hard to achieve, if you ever used the account when VPN wasn't working they could get your local IP. Could be ipv6 wasn't going through VPN, VPN wasn't turned back on after a shutdown, VPN leaked IP, etc.
  2. Reddit likely has a unique browser fingerprint for you, if you used the same device to access two different accounts one on VPN and one off VPN they could still tie them together with a matching unique fingerprint across both accounts.
  3. If your buddy was using one of your devices same thing as above.

With perfect VPN usage and perfect opsec and complete separation of devices and accounts it is very unlikely they would have been able to correlate this activity.

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