What I'm getting at by that is, it seems like the creators of the show have a habit of saying somewhat trollish things about it online, and people read into those things and argue about them to determine the canon and message of the show. What the OP imageboard poster is dissatisfied about revolves around meta stuff, but you can also just watch the show itself and decide what it means to you on your own without that context.
Also, as far as I can tell, part of its message is that it is a good thing to still have compassion for people who have done awful things and acknowledge them as human, which seems to be an idea that just does not compute for certain people who think the only response to someone crossing a moral line is utter contempt. I associate that mindset with twitter and blame twitter for it.
The ending was too rushed. Goose's excuse for it sucked (That she lost the spark for creating after the TADC fandom went berserk: But now she's also helping on making Gameoverse?). Lots of questions were left unanswered.
Despite a couple of words I wouldn't personally use, I actually agree with the broad strokes of this post, and I admire Amazing Digital Circus more for it! Jaxx is the antithesis of the main morals of the story - about opening up, showing vulnerability, and showing empathy to others when they do the same. While Pomni and the others took those lessons to heart, and grew to make genuine connections with one another, Jaxx doubled down on his(?) toxicity and cruelty for the whole show, and ended up seeing the irreversible consequences of that in a harrowing cautionary tale. I don't think the finale was ever supposed to make us feel bad for Jaxx or that his actions were justified.
Maybe? I didn't know Goose actually said that, and I'll have to look it up, but even assuming she did say that, I'm still not too bothered by it. Often characters that start off as self-inserts aren't one-to-one, and can develop into completely different characters over time. As a good example, the main writer of Ed, Edd, 'n' Eddy based all three main characters off different sides of himself.
You didn't watch the movie where they reveal that Eddy's brother was a abusive asshole who he was desperate to earn the approval of. His constant need to scam people and talk up his brother all stems from their terrible relationship. This culminates in the rest of the kids in the culdesac siding with Eddy when they see how his brother treats him despite literally spending the entire movie hunting him down for a scam that went too far.
They're still some kids who at most try to have child fun. Jax is NOT trying to have childish fun, that was straight up harassment.
(Can you give me the episode name? Yea, I didn't watch it, I didn't find most episodes avaliable at YouTube)
Goose is a trans woman herself. I see Jax not as a literal copy of herself, but rather as her idea of a "bad ending" if young-Goose (Gosling?) wasn't able to come out and be herself
I think it's also worth comparing Lee(roy) in real life versus Jax in the Circus. Jax is a snapshot of their mental state at possibly the lowest point in their life, immediately after their coming out apparently killed their mother. But while Lee was able to find friends and build out of that (on the way to a "good ending"), Jax never got that chance and ultimately succumbed to it
Hnmm, yeah, your point makes something. But Jax is still dislikeable, and I bet Lee(Roy) didn't harrass a lesbian and caused deaths of 2 (humans? digital copies? we need a term for them.)
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My takeaway is that not being on twitter enhanced my enjoyment of this show
Mastodon is a much nicer place to enjoy a thing :)
I don't have other socials rather than Lemmy, so I guess so?
What I'm getting at by that is, it seems like the creators of the show have a habit of saying somewhat trollish things about it online, and people read into those things and argue about them to determine the canon and message of the show. What the OP imageboard poster is dissatisfied about revolves around meta stuff, but you can also just watch the show itself and decide what it means to you on your own without that context.
Also, as far as I can tell, part of its message is that it is a good thing to still have compassion for people who have done awful things and acknowledge them as human, which seems to be an idea that just does not compute for certain people who think the only response to someone crossing a moral line is utter contempt. I associate that mindset with twitter and blame twitter for it.
Yup. I fully agree with this. Having been on the recieving end of too many people like Jax, I couldn't even feel sympathy for their character arc.
Tadc had so much potential to be so much better.
The ending was too rushed. Goose's excuse for it sucked (That she lost the spark for creating after the TADC fandom went berserk: But now she's also helping on making Gameoverse?). Lots of questions were left unanswered.
Despite a couple of words I wouldn't personally use, I actually agree with the broad strokes of this post, and I admire Amazing Digital Circus more for it! Jaxx is the antithesis of the main morals of the story - about opening up, showing vulnerability, and showing empathy to others when they do the same. While Pomni and the others took those lessons to heart, and grew to make genuine connections with one another, Jaxx doubled down on his(?) toxicity and cruelty for the whole show, and ended up seeing the irreversible consequences of that in a harrowing cautionary tale. I don't think the finale was ever supposed to make us feel bad for Jaxx or that his actions were justified.
But the part about him being Goose's self insert is still bad.
Maybe? I didn't know Goose actually said that, and I'll have to look it up, but even assuming she did say that, I'm still not too bothered by it. Often characters that start off as self-inserts aren't one-to-one, and can develop into completely different characters over time. As a good example, the main writer of Ed, Edd, 'n' Eddy based all three main characters off different sides of himself.
But the Eds were kids who just wanted to have fun. Jax is straight up terrible.
You didn't watch the movie where they reveal that Eddy's brother was a abusive asshole who he was desperate to earn the approval of. His constant need to scam people and talk up his brother all stems from their terrible relationship. This culminates in the rest of the kids in the culdesac siding with Eddy when they see how his brother treats him despite literally spending the entire movie hunting him down for a scam that went too far.
They're still some kids who at most try to have child fun. Jax is NOT trying to have childish fun, that was straight up harassment. (Can you give me the episode name? Yea, I didn't watch it, I didn't find most episodes avaliable at YouTube)
ed, edd n eddy’s big picture show, the series finale!
Oooh, thanks!
Goose is a trans woman herself. I see Jax not as a literal copy of herself, but rather as her idea of a "bad ending" if young-Goose (Gosling?) wasn't able to come out and be herself
I think it's also worth comparing Lee(roy) in real life versus Jax in the Circus. Jax is a snapshot of their mental state at possibly the lowest point in their life, immediately after their coming out apparently killed their mother. But while Lee was able to find friends and build out of that (on the way to a "good ending"), Jax never got that chance and ultimately succumbed to it
Hnmm, yeah, your point makes something. But Jax is still dislikeable, and I bet Lee(Roy) didn't harrass a lesbian and caused deaths of 2 (humans? digital copies? we need a term for them.)
Uhh ohh uhh.
clearly a CIA psyop, no channer would ever use unicode " and ', they are not icrapple users
Even the CIA dislikes Jax.
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Oh, okay :) Wait why don't we have one for JumpMania?
There is! I gave it "[UJ]"
Yeeah! Thanks :)