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Automated translation from Prigozhin's new statement

"Border guards were coming out to meet us and hugging our fighters after we crossed the state border... We will destroy anything that gets in our way"

https://twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1672381915431596034

"The current situation today was a rocket attack on us. After that the helicopters worked off. After that the artillery commands came from the Chief of General Staff to destroy the Wagner Cheka. After a meeting with Defense Minister Shoigu, where they made this decision to destroy the recalcitrant units, which are ready to defend their homeland, but their asses are not. At the moment we have crossed state borders in all places. Border guards were coming out to meet us and hugging our fighters. Now we are entering Rostov, a unit of the Ministry of Defense, or rather, the conscripts who were thrown to block our way, have stepped aside. We do not fight children, we do not kill children. Children are being killed. Shoigu throws untrained soldiers, including conscripts, into the war. He put 18-year-old boys against us, they are our children, they are all our grandchildren. So these guys will live and go back to their mothers. We only fight professionals. But if anyone gets in the way, we will destroy anything that gets in the way. We extend our hand to everyone. No need to spit in that hand. We move on. We go all the way. As for the statements about the arrests. This is brotherhood, this is justice, this is honor, this is conscience. That's what we have. And when you make statements, you don't have these feelings, you have destroyed these feelings. So you cannot understand anything but betrayal."

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What an absolute insane rambling from Prigozjin, "We only fight professionals." and "throws untrained soldiers, including conscripts, into the war." This from the guy who used prisoners with 3 days of training, as meatwaves in Bakhmut.

Despite that, I hope he will cause a lot of trouble for Russia and Putin.

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lemmy.world

getting reports of heavy aircraft leaving rostov, this means they do not intend to hold the airport and are evacuating everything. thats a wagner win without a fight

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Putin must wish he'd never invaded Ukraine. He had it so good before that total miscalculation.

Thanks for posting these updates.

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Remember 97% of the Russian army is fighting in Ukraine right now, according to U.K. Defense Secretary Ben Wallace.

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just saw this article on Moscow Times ( neutral, now in Amsterdam based news)

"Following speculation that he had de facto announced an armed revolt against Russia’s military, Prigozhin later added: “It is not a coup d’etat. It’s a march of justice. Our actions do not impede [regular Russian] soldiers at all.”

Whatever he said or meant, it's going to be chaos imo.

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lemmy.world

TikTok Kadyrov's Akhmat 'special forces' battalion has been tasked to stop Prigozhin from reaching Moscow.

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lemmy.ca

Time to see once and for all whether the bastards are good for anything other than TikTok videos.

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lemmy.ml

New statement by Prigo in reaction to Putin:

https://nitter.nl/wartranslated/status/1672536701997072384

❗️Prigozhin audio message 10:19AM BST - "no one will surrender to the demands of the President":

"Regarding the betrayal of the Motherland, the President is deeply mistaken. We’re patriots of our Motherland. We fought and we are fighting, all fighters of PMC Wagner. And no one is going to surrender to the demands of the President, FSB, or anyone else. Because we don’t want the country to live further in corruption lies, and bureaucracy.

When we fought in Africa, we were told that we needed Africa, and then they dumped it, because they stole all the money that was meant to come for help.

When we were told we are fighting with Ukraine, we went and fought. But it turned out that the ammo, weapons, all money put towards this were also being stolen, while officials are sitting and saving them for themselves for an incident that happened today, when someone is going towards Moscow."

Now they are not saving anything, they are striking us with planes and helicopters at the columns with civilians. And they hit civilians because they’re missing. And they hit anywhere they can.

Thus, we are the patriots, but those resisting us today are those who gathered around scumbags.

Audio: t.me/Prigozhin_hat/3812

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lemmy.world

Russian Army is now the second best army in 2 countries. Ukraine and Russia.

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lemmy.ml

So any remaining conspiracy thoughts of this being orchestrated by Putin as an awkward "out" are clearly gone. Also, this will more clearly set up direct armed confrontation between Wagner and the Russian armed forces. It's probably not that hard to get some of the regulars riled up against Shoigu and the MoD, but now Wagner has to convince them to go against Putin.

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lemmy.world

Listening to their intercepted phone calls, it seems like they mostly hate Putin for sending them to Ukraine.

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While I agree there will be a lot that hate Putin like that, I think the intercepted phone calls are too anecdotal to get a reliable picture of the loyalties within the military.

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lemmy.ml

Woke up in the middle of the night to fail the three day poop challenge and see this news at 3:30am. I wonder what the ripple effects will be.

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JUST IN: Mayor of Moscow says that "anti-terrorist measures" are being taken to reinforce security in the city - TASS

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Footage of Prigozhin in Rostov, pictured with Deputy Minister of Defense, Colonel General Yunus-Bek Yevkurov (at left, from 0:13 on) — see the latter's official portrait photo for reference; looks like a match.

edit: and Lt. Gen. Vladimir Alekseyev, deputy chief of GRU military intelligence 1

Partial translation summary: Wagner issues orders to MoD commanders it has captured; will "blockade Rostov and go to [ed: towards?] Moscow until we get the Chief of the General Staff and Shoigu" 2, 3

  • Machine translation here. Highlight: Lt. Gen. Alekseyev tells Prigozhin, "the biggest thing that upsets me is... I hear there's a party in Kyiv. With champagne"

https://nitter.net/Tendar/status/1672463623078158337#m

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lemmy.world

I'm just waiting for "Swan Lake" to start broadcasting.

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Wagner needs to survive 24 hours, this coup will in no doubt help Ukraine, the goal is to allow the infighting to continue

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Incoming reports of Wagner Group soldiers leaving their missions in Africa and Syria to join the military coup in Russia against Putin.

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I don't want to jump the gun, this could easily be Russian misinformation and logic dictates that I should treat it as such until we've got a hard confirmation, but PLEASE let this be real. Wagner and Russia engaging in infighting now would be absolutely perfect. I want the counteroffensive to have every edge it can get, and this would be one hell of an edge.

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U.S. Officials have reportedly told CNN that they are “Closely Watching the Situation unfolding in Russia,” further stating that the Situation is very much Real.

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Videos of military vehicles on roads in Rostov Region have started to appear in Telegram channels.

Some of them clearly show government troops. Other vehicles are more difficult to identify - military trucks.

But it is not clear whether these are Wagner forces or a regular army.

It is also reported that part of the Rostov-Moscow highway is blocked.

In Rostov, according to Russian media reports, PMC Wagner is still neither seen nor heard.

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1672399393226473472

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That means they have made halfway from where they started to Moscow in the last 16 hours. At this rate we will be seeing them clash with Moscow troops in the next day.

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A Rostov-based telegram channel has shared this footage claiming that it was shot in the vicinity of Rostov-on-Don this morning

t.me/tutina/3571

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lemmy.world

The FSB of the Russian Federation urged "not to make irreparable mistakes, to stop any force actions against the Russian people, not to carry out Prigozhin's criminal and treasonous orders, to take measures to arrest him"

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lemmy.world

What's the goal? To take over the armed forces and be Putin's 2nd? Or to replace Putin?

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Prigozin said to hang Gerasimov and Shoigu

Russian MOD has been begging Prigozin to listen to commander in chief "Putin"

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Girkin now seemingly pointing out that Prigozhin has de-facto won:

https://nitter.nl/pic/orig/media%2FFzaIoo2aQAAbQsC.jpg

I have to admit with great bitterness that the Russian Federation is one step closer to its final and irrevocable demise.

As of today, the Russian Federation has two presidents - the real president, Yevgeny Viktorovich Prigozhin, and Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, the acting president to serve his term. The main purpose of the acting president is to periodically address the real president, kneeling down, with the question: "What do you want, Yevgeny Viktorovich?"

Never, even in my worst nightmare, I couldn't imagine that I would see this shame and destruction of my country.

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If i were a russian soldier i would be looking to get the fuck out of Ukraine right now. I can smell a mass desertion coming!

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lemmy.ml

If twitter is to be believed, this was posted to Pringle's Telegram channel (machine-translated):

https://i.imgur.com/wq8cnuF.jpg

So the press release by Lukashenko might be smoke and mirrors or a genuine misunderstanding

EDIT: Might well be bullshit, BBC currently reporting Prigozhin has confirmed a deal has taken place

EDIT2: Now also more clearly confirmed with quote by Prigozhin - https://nitter.nl/maxseddon/status/1672657882117013504

Right now the moment has come when blood could be spilled. Therefore, understanding all the responsibility for the fact that Russian blood will be spilled on one side, we are turning our convoy around and going back to our basecamps, according to the plan.

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lemmy.sdf.org

Does someone have a link to Prigozhin's actual outlets? All of this is pretty indirect and suspect as a result. (In the age of deepfakes, a recording means little with no provenance)

Edit: BBC is now repeating this.

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kbin.social

Maybe some kind of fake operation to get Ukraine to launch it's main counteroffensive early? I just can't believe any type of coup would hold water

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It seems too complex operation for russia to be able to organize such thing

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The link doesn't seem to work, error message: "Hmm...this page doesn’t exist. Try searching for something else."

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White House national security council says that they "are monitoring the situation in Russia and will be consulting with allies and partners on these developments" - Reuters

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