It's good as a picture but depressing AF at the same time, that much of the world's woods are perfect rows of plantation. Planted only for human economic gain or aesthetics.
This is literally two rows of trees next to a river, you couldn't get further from a forest without removing the trees.
I get not liking plantation forests, I don't either, but this is just not that. Its also right next to a fairly natural part of the Danube wich is quite beautiful in its own right.
Don't get me wrong, trees are better than no trees. But the normalisation of perfect rows causes great harm by making people think it's good and natural and how it should be. It normalises a fascistic view of nature that it should be controlled and perfectly ordered.
Nature is chaos. Nature needs chaos to properly thrive.
Yes, planted for aestetics, also the home of dozens of bird species, because its poplar trees that very much belong on the waters edge.
As far into a millennia old city as this is you really aren't going to see many "natural" trees.
Tree guy, pretty sure those are all maple. Poplar have pinate leaves with a serated edge, the leaves in the picture appear to have 3 lobes. Also poplar bark is rather smooth, while maple species frequently develop that furrowed bark pattern when they mature. These look to be more than 50 but less than 100 years old based on diameter at breast height.
Very much not a tree guy, but its literally called poplar alley and these tree guys seep to agree with the poplar diagnosis https://www.baumkunde.de/forum/viewtopic.php?t=31139
They also make the annoying ass fluff
The bark on young trees is smooth and white to greenish or dark grey, and often has conspicuous lenticels; on old trees, it remains smooth in some species, but becomes rough and deeply fissured in others.
Learn something new every day. In America the dominant species of poplar are grandidentada (big tooth) and tremuliodes (quaking), both of which maintain smooth bark into maturity. I also learned that the crowns of those (likely black) poplars is 35m up, so we absolutely aren't seeing leaves from the trucks pictured. The maple leaves in the picture are likely from understory saplings or sub dominant mature trees.
Aye, which is why I said trees are better than no trees. I'm not advocating for ripping them out or anything ridiculous like that.
Just that when people see pictures like this, because there's trees, they think it's nature. It's good. And yes it's better than nothing, and it supports some life, but it could be so much better.
I don't buy the argument that just because a city is old it should be absolved of its duty to nature. Poplar trees don't get particularly old as trees go, all of these will have been planted sometime in the last 100 years. Future plantings should be sporadic, to mimic nature, but due to tradition and the normalisation of perfect rows most around the world still aren't. People like their perfect neat rows, nature be damned.
Sure, let's not keep this culturally protected 200m long stretch of trees. This image massively compresses the distance between these trees, surrounding this area are large parklands with much more nature-like planting, so no thank you this one place can stay.
And as you walk down there a bandit khajiit will pop out
It's good as a picture but depressing AF at the same time, that much of the world's woods are perfect rows of plantation. Planted only for human economic gain or aesthetics.
This is literally two rows of trees next to a river, you couldn't get further from a forest without removing the trees. I get not liking plantation forests, I don't either, but this is just not that. Its also right next to a fairly natural part of the Danube wich is quite beautiful in its own right.
So planted for human aesthetics.
Don't get me wrong, trees are better than no trees. But the normalisation of perfect rows causes great harm by making people think it's good and natural and how it should be. It normalises a fascistic view of nature that it should be controlled and perfectly ordered.
Nature is chaos. Nature needs chaos to properly thrive.
Yes, planted for aestetics, also the home of dozens of bird species, because its poplar trees that very much belong on the waters edge. As far into a millennia old city as this is you really aren't going to see many "natural" trees.
Tree guy, pretty sure those are all maple. Poplar have pinate leaves with a serated edge, the leaves in the picture appear to have 3 lobes. Also poplar bark is rather smooth, while maple species frequently develop that furrowed bark pattern when they mature. These look to be more than 50 but less than 100 years old based on diameter at breast height.
Very much not a tree guy, but its literally called poplar alley and these tree guys seep to agree with the poplar diagnosis https://www.baumkunde.de/forum/viewtopic.php?t=31139 They also make the annoying ass fluff
Very much not a tree guy myself tho
Learn something new every day. In America the dominant species of poplar are grandidentada (big tooth) and tremuliodes (quaking), both of which maintain smooth bark into maturity. I also learned that the crowns of those (likely black) poplars is 35m up, so we absolutely aren't seeing leaves from the trucks pictured. The maple leaves in the picture are likely from understory saplings or sub dominant mature trees.
Aye, which is why I said trees are better than no trees. I'm not advocating for ripping them out or anything ridiculous like that.
Just that when people see pictures like this, because there's trees, they think it's nature. It's good. And yes it's better than nothing, and it supports some life, but it could be so much better.
I don't buy the argument that just because a city is old it should be absolved of its duty to nature. Poplar trees don't get particularly old as trees go, all of these will have been planted sometime in the last 100 years. Future plantings should be sporadic, to mimic nature, but due to tradition and the normalisation of perfect rows most around the world still aren't. People like their perfect neat rows, nature be damned.
Sure, let's not keep this culturally protected 200m long stretch of trees. This image massively compresses the distance between these trees, surrounding this area are large parklands with much more nature-like planting, so no thank you this one place can stay.