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Israel, stunned by Trump’s Iran deal, sees it as a ‘catastrophic capitulation’

Israel awoke to a frightening new reality on Thursday as it absorbed, with disbelief and largely in silence, the terms of Trump’s agreement to end the war with Iran.

It is a disastrous deal from Israel’s point of view, analysts said, because it accomplishes none of Israel’s war aims and arguably leaves the country in worse shape on each of them.

“It’s a bad agreement in which the Americans are paying with cash, and got, at the maximum, a letter of intent,” Yaakov Amidror, a hawkish former national security adviser to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel, said in an interview.

Israel, stunned by Trump’s Iran deal, sees it as a ‘catastrophic capitulation’https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/18/world/middleeast/israel-iran-deal-reaction-netanyahu.htmlOpen linkView original on lemmy.world
lemmy.world

These people wanted us to implement a draft and throw millions of Americans at Israel’s most fortified enemy in the region for peanuts. Fuck AIPAC and all other Israeli organizations that want us to fight their battles for them. We’re staying home and we’re not fighting anyone.

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lemmy.world

That's exactly what Israel wants: let someone else do their genocide for them.

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It's because their people are special, and shouldn't be sent to die.

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Should we remind them they started this dumpster fire? Bombed and invaded their neighbors, then dog walked Dementia Man into joining them. Sorry but they played themselves and now they're stuck with the consequences.

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it accomplishes none of Israel’s war aims and arguably leaves the country in worse shape on each of them.

Arguably?
Haha Israel you done fucked up this time. 🤡 🤣

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Very much a “tragic, the worst person you know makes a great point moment”

Edit: to be clear fuck Israel’s motives here but it is a capitulation on an unprecedented scale

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lemmy.world

I still dont know why Israel exists. Like no one needs a "homeland" that was promised in a fairy tale a million years ago. Creating a homeland for an ethnic or religious group doesn't work. Just look at India and Pakistan. Worked out wonderfully right? Wrong.

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infosec.pub

Pissrael is like what, 75 years old? It has no tradition or culture deep enough to warrant all the suffering it creates, it should be dismantled, scrapped and sold for parts.

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fedia.io

It is a disastrous deal from Israel’s point of view, analysts said, because it accomplishes none of Israel’s war aims and arguably leaves the country in worse shape on each of them.

I like how they just expect the American government to just prioritize their interests over its own. Like "this is a bad deal because it hurts Israel" then you should've fucking shown up when they were negotiating the deal you dingus.

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lemmy.world

Frankly I was under the impression they weren't invited, completely justifiably.

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fedia.io

Potato potato really. Either they refused to participate because they're fascists who don't want peace, or they weren't invited because they're fascists who don't want peace.

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Why? They can keep bombing whoever they want. Did they not anticipate a loss of focus from the ballroom guy?

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I haven't read the agreement but isn't one of the stipulations the fact that Israel has to stop hatefucking Lebanon?

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I'm pretty sure the deal requires Israel to stop bombing Lebanon. Which is interesting, since it forces Conservatives here to choose between their two favorite things: killing brown people and making money.

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lemmy.world

Who said this whole thing was about accomplishing Israels war goals?

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

I don't know why they abandonned the "if israel did not exists, we had to create one" guy

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lemmy.world

Because Trump went along with what the Democrats wouldn't.

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lemmy.world

To project strength, instead of actually starting a war.

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reddthat.com

The Millenium exercise was 26 years ago.

The Israelis have been trying to get the Americans to invade Iran since 1980 with the same song and dance, only Trump was stupid enough to listen.

If you think President Harris would've fallen for it, that's just bias confirmation on your part.

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lemmy.world

An exercise? Your evidence that Biden would have been more in line with Israel's plans than Trump is that they did an exercise in an area of the world where the US is constantly starting shit and "needs" to be prepared for the next time they start shit?

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Why a proud Zionist like Biden enabling the genocide like trump would not be as much in line with Israel's plan as Trump?

Yes an exercise leading to this war like the Russian exercise leading to the invasion of Ukraine Zapad-2021 and Union Resolve 2022

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They put their money on the idiot just starting a war, ignoring the warnings this could hang people out to dry, and now they're shocked he can just stop the war leaves certain people hanging out to dry.

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If only there was an incredibly public record of the last 30 years of massive incompetency and self serving done by the guy they rallied behind. Idiot fascists.

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You reached the end