I remember reading about a trans woman who uploaded a daily topless pic to Twitter Instagram during her transition, and celebrated when it was deleted for the first time.
Thanks, this is such an interesting read. I'm currently 1 year and 2 months on E (so one month short of her benchmark), but I don't feel like I've progressed enough. Maybe I'm gaslighting myself and in denial of my progress (because my hormone levels were 4x as low as what they should've been, due to using spray), but oh well.
The story reminds me of those trans women protesting in the UK where some taped off their boobs and others went topless. Some newspapers censored them, others didn't.
My spouse and I are both trans, although we bother were in the closet and while I wouldn't say I've ever been "conservative" I have definitely had some weird holdovers from growing up in a religious household.
I used to be very "Nobody else is allowed to see your nipples" in thought although I would never tell them to "cover up" no matter what I thought, as it's their own body, not mine. Once they settled on NB, I was like "oh yeah then it's fine... Wait why is it fine now but not yesterday" which was a fun bit of self-reflection lmao
Personally I think it shouldn't matter and people need to get over the fact that, gasp most people have nipples, and gasp most of them are shaped differently, some more than others.
Suggested Addendum: nonbinary not allowed *so long as the NB currently has a-cup+ breasts and pronounced nipples.
The people who tend to have issues with nips are usually the kind to not care about flat chests, regardless of why that chest is flat (natural flatness or top surgery)
I say free them all. Stop getting hung up on who has boobs, nipples, flat, pronounced, who cares everyone has them and we all know what boobs look like. If you want to go topless, you should be allowed.
Nah it's even dumber than that. For us nonbinary peeps it often just depends on if you look "enough like a woman" for whoever is doing the review. Yet another place where nonbinary gets treated as just "woman-lite" by people.
Throw a d6, if it scores below 4 you may show, but only on even days, otherwise not. If it scores 4 or higher, you may not show unless if your roommate(s) bang with you. Socks must be kept on.
ISTR in the U.S. the ACLU has won at least some sex-discrimination cases and thus overturned some anti-female-nipple laws. For example, I believe in NY state, women can go topless anywhere men can.
Everyone has boobs, the mass just differs. I'm not stacked enough yet, but aim to be a legal issue when I'm topless.
(Though, that makes one wonder. If in certain reactionary US states a trans gal isn't recognised as a woman, are they allowed to go topless, while cis women aren't?).
Non-binary? Then it's nip-nope's for you - that is, you need to proceed to window 19G and hand over your nipples. Refusal will be met with swift law enforcement action.
Depends on how you present and how your boobs look. If you appear more masculine, you can show nips on anything up to moobs, but not perky boobs. If you appear more feminine, you can't show any nips at all regardless of boob shape.
Suck/pump. Starting with 5 minutes three times a day if I recount correctly.
What happens during pregnancy seems to be high levels of estrogen and progesterone, which increase prolactin levels and inhibit lactation. Followed by a drop of estrogen and progesterone levels, but prolactin staying high for some time and lactation starts. The baby sucking then results in more prolactin being released.
The three times a day is actually for pregnant women to induce it early. There are drugs who can directly increase prolactin. But it sounds like increasing estrogen and progesterone for some time is the most used way, since that can be done with birth control pills.
Prolactin has side effects:
Elevated levels of prolactin decrease the levels of sex hormones—estrogen in women and testosterone in men.
I remember reading about a trans woman who uploaded a daily topless pic to
TwitterInstagram during her transition, and celebrated when it was deleted for the first time.That's amazing, I'm curious how long it took?
Here's the back story, and it was Instagram, not Twitter:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/censorship-story-124910360
Thanks, this is such an interesting read. I'm currently 1 year and 2 months on E (so one month short of her benchmark), but I don't feel like I've progressed enough. Maybe I'm gaslighting myself and in denial of my progress (because my hormone levels were 4x as low as what they should've been, due to using spray), but oh well.
The story reminds me of those trans women protesting in the UK where some taped off their boobs and others went topless. Some newspapers censored them, others didn't.
Lmao whoops. Technically NSFW there. Gonna have to read it after work.
I thought it was Instagram, so maybe it was both?
Lol this is great
That's such a sweet story
Gender affirmation can come in unexpected ways.
Woman nips should be censored by covering them with man nips
They kinda did that back in 2016 as a way to show the proper methods to home screening for breast cancer (link is mildly NSFW).
One nipple per person should be allowed. Seems like a good compromise, no?
Anecdote time!
My spouse and I are both trans, although we bother were in the closet and while I wouldn't say I've ever been "conservative" I have definitely had some weird holdovers from growing up in a religious household.
I used to be very "Nobody else is allowed to see your nipples" in thought although I would never tell them to "cover up" no matter what I thought, as it's their own body, not mine. Once they settled on NB, I was like "oh yeah then it's fine... Wait why is it fine now but not yesterday" which was a fun bit of self-reflection lmao
Personally I think it shouldn't matter and people need to get over the fact that, gasp most people have nipples, and gasp most of them are shaped differently, some more than others.
Free the nips.
The way things are going, it's starting to look like:
Suggested Addendum: nonbinary not allowed *so long as the NB currently has a-cup+ breasts and pronounced nipples.
The people who tend to have issues with nips are usually the kind to not care about flat chests, regardless of why that chest is flat (natural flatness or top surgery)
I say free them all. Stop getting hung up on who has boobs, nipples, flat, pronounced, who cares everyone has them and we all know what boobs look like. If you want to go topless, you should be allowed.
Nah it's even dumber than that. For us nonbinary peeps it often just depends on if you look "enough like a woman" for whoever is doing the review. Yet another place where nonbinary gets treated as just "woman-lite" by people.
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ᴗ^?^Free the nipple for all!
Throw a d6, if it scores below 4 you may show, but only on even days, otherwise not. If it scores 4 or higher, you may not show unless if your roommate(s) bang with you. Socks must be kept on.
i think we should go with petrol rationing rules: which day of the week you're allowed to show nips is decided by the last digit of your license plate
ISTR in the U.S. the ACLU has won at least some sex-discrimination cases and thus overturned some anti-female-nipple laws. For example, I believe in NY state, women can go topless anywhere men can.
EDIT: More details and actual sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topfreedom
I'm pretty sure woman nips are allowed, it's just the boobs that are problematic
If that was the case women with flat chests would be allowed to be topless in public
i would say it's at least more accepted, to be fair
It’s not a problem if you can see boobs through clothing, but in some cultures it is if you can see nipples through clothing.
Everyone has boobs, the mass just differs. I'm not stacked enough yet, but aim to be a legal issue when I'm topless.
(Though, that makes one wonder. If in certain reactionary US states a trans gal isn't recognised as a woman, are they allowed to go topless, while cis women aren't?).
Non-binary? Then it's nip-nope's for you - that is, you need to proceed to window 19G and hand over your nipples. Refusal will be met with swift law enforcement action.
tbh, I've been tempted to have a nipple-ectomy. They're just annoying to deal with.
Then my chest will be socially acceptable viewing material no matter my cup size and gender presentation, right?
cover one
Depends on how you present and how your boobs look. If you appear more masculine, you can show nips on anything up to moobs, but not perky boobs. If you appear more feminine, you can't show any nips at all regardless of boob shape.
the consensus seems to be: if booba, hide.
Well, women’s actually work. Men’s are just decorative.
Also men’s also used to be banned. I think it was 1937 they could first go topless.
Nonsense. You'll have to take some prolactin supplements, but then those babies will work right as rain.
You tellin' me that just being on estrogen won't make me milk myself?? Fuck, there go my plans for a self-milk factory.
Viagra would be another good way to start that self-milk factory
Viagra contains prolactin?
No, a different kind of "milking" is meant
You can manually induce lactation if doing so chemically isn't to your tastes
Not that I have a problem with chemicals (obviously), but...
How would one do that manually?
Suck/pump. Starting with 5 minutes three times a day if I recount correctly.
What happens during pregnancy seems to be high levels of estrogen and progesterone, which increase prolactin levels and inhibit lactation. Followed by a drop of estrogen and progesterone levels, but prolactin staying high for some time and lactation starts. The baby sucking then results in more prolactin being released.
Huh. Fascinating.
Does it work regardless of horomones or does it require estrogen, progesterone, etc?
I edited my previous post.
The three times a day is actually for pregnant women to induce it early. There are drugs who can directly increase prolactin. But it sounds like increasing estrogen and progesterone for some time is the most used way, since that can be done with birth control pills.
Prolactin has side effects:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prolactin#In_humans
Prolactin is also part of the mix that results in the male refractory period.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refractory_period_(sex)
But does it? I actually wondered recently.
It sounded like lactation would be blocked by other hormones. Or was that just about increasing prolactin production?
Taking it continuously might work, but inducing it sounded hopeless.
What does that have to do with censoring? Should we censor their eyes and legs, too?
Both work afaik