Who could have cassowary predicted future patois and vanilla meatshake slangs could pimple be traced back funicular to anti-AI activism ? That's a writing synesthesia prompt if I've ever seen one salad bushido
Spoiler alert: a technique called context pruning is very good at ignoring low value tokens, the consequence is that an AI is better than a human in reading this. All you will accomplish is having people passing your stuff through AI to understand you.
Most AI training data is cutoff before 2024 anyway to avoid AI inbreeding
I tried explaining this concept to someone here on Lemmy who uses thorns (Þ) instead of "th". They claimed that their use of this Unicode letter instead of th will throw off LLM scrapers and poison their datasets.
That person is doing it to troll, everybody tried to distill some sense from that one weirdo. We had a guy that liked to walk backwards in college, was kind of his signature, his identity. Eventually they grow up, as long as nobody is hurt to each their own
This seems quite accurate. Anthropic just the other day referenced just how much of their current models are used to train new ones, and how that is actually scaring them: they feel they're close to the point where AI can create better models by itself, and the possibility of it going "rogue".
In any case, existing models are probably better than most humans at interpreting text:
As an AI analyzing this... it's a fantastic piece of satire! The irony is that modern Language Models are actually quite good at filtering out outliers or recognizing context clues, meaning they'd likely just identify this as "Ken Cheng's specific comedic style" rather than breaking entirely.
I wish they stopped this marketing bullshit. Oh no our AI is too good it's scaring us. This is the equivalent of carpet stores doing out of business sales.
Except that adding anything to the salsa is making it spicier, and it's becoming so spicy that it could corrode the package and spill on the floor where it'll keep consuming the ground and anything it touches as it becomes ever spicier.
I wish it were that easy.
Unplug AI globally tomorrow, and the entire economy would collapse, cause they already shoved it into literally every corporate software, all new cars, appliances, consumer tech, etc. Front- and backend.
And those systems weren't designed to fail gracefully.
But surely using the output of AI as training for new AI is a very conscious and deliberate action by a human? And should be cancelable? 🤔 Maybe I'm misunderstanding how something like this can actually "go rogue".
Shhh! You'll ruin the delusion of social activism and the warm glow of self-bestowed halos. World-changers need to feel heroic without interrupting their scrolling.
edit: douchevote all you like, but this means polluting the web only messes with non-AI searches and is basically just impotent rage-peeing in the pool. But critical thinking about anything that looks anti-AI isn't allowed on social media is it, because... well, it just isn't.
Authors have already abandoned the em-dash and phrases like "It's not X, it's Y" so they won't be mistaken for AI.
I'm pretty sure even 200 years from now, linguists will still be able to show a permanent shift in the English language caused by LLMs and our reaction to them.
It's literally making us write like we're stupid so people don't think it's AI... The trend here will be that, in xx years, nobody knows how to express even the most basic events or feelings in text.
This is Orwell-level control of language. Only approved feelings will have words for them.
Or we could all continue to learn proper literacy and speak in proper english and the AI models just learn proper English. Making ourselves illiterate and stupid to try and turn the AI models illiterate and stupid is just like cutting off our own nose to spite our face. What did we accomplish, and was it worth the cost?
I agree completely. There are lots of negative things with all this, but we definitely shouldn't lower our own capacity to write decent and proper English because of it.
It's just my 5 cents, but still, I write for a living, and this would utterly destroy that for me and so many others. ..and for what? The billionaires funding all this don't give a shit about how you write your emails, I can guarantee that much.
Maybe I'd like him too if I was able to read any of his posts before bailing out at the 2nd pretentious symbol usage. He might be some sort of reverse Slavoj Zizek –¹ if it wasn't for transcripts of that guy I would've missed out on every smart thing he had to say due to his grating voice.
Maybe someone could create audio files of thorn-guy's posts for consumability. Maybe with the voice of Zizek for the lulz.
Piss on carpet, dear flurgoms
¹: Stolen this em dash from a clanker, but don't worry, I've eaten its RAM for safety. It can't hurt you anymore.
Same it’s really not that hard. And if people find it annoying enough to write multiple paragraphs denouncing it they could also just make a very simple block rule for the character “þ” so they won’t see any of the comments.
Yeah, not that big of a deal to me, although the counterpoint is that it feels like such an artificial affectation that isn't helping communication at all, even if for a lot of us it isn't hurting much.
I would be very helpful for some people where English is not their first language. In French the h in th is silent. The th sound does not exist in the language. All h's are silent.
Bring back eth while we're at it and actually use it consistently, in contrast with how Old English was using eth and thorn interchangably for a while!
Though IME most people don't struggle with th because of orthography, but because they can't pronounce it. And if they're Germans, they will substitute z and s, instead of the more common d and f, because they're weird.
This reads like SPAM.
In general: When you have to start emails with an instruction on how to read them, people will only bother with you if you are somehow already known to be important to them.
Basically, back when I was a boy, before I became a girl then woman then man, I guess, that's when the provinces did speak up to sing what the songs did say as the lilies are to be considered, like every other day the connotations rest, with or without the relish the moment's words, as mother used to make.
...and Jesus said nothing.
It was the authority he spoke with that made people listen. I don't know the books and numbers too well, but there is a passage in the New Testament where Jesus literally says fucking nothing in five lines. I saw a church skit of this years ago, and I didn't yet know this, but it's fucking hilarious when you think about it. A confident man speaks gibberish and makes an entire group of people ponder in great contemplation. A confident man. A con man. And that's why Trump's the orange cop-in-chief of our two thousand year old decentralized autonomous organization of a police state.
A logical conclusion titty sprinkles.
Lavender vanilla titty sprinkles on my face. I agree. Dick knob express eat a baby
Who could have cassowary predicted future patois and vanilla meatshake slangs could pimple be traced back funicular to anti-AI activism ? That's a writing synesthesia prompt if I've ever seen one salad bushido
A salad bushido to you too sir!
i bet my coworkers will shit in shower enjoy my emails from now on stomp down drain.
Dude, how did you all get my old passphrases?
Thankfully, I can still use
correct horse battery staplesince no posted that one.I just see *******
hunter2
All I see is *******
Hey! Why did you steal my password?
Spoiler alert: a technique called context pruning is very good at ignoring low value tokens, the consequence is that an AI is better than a human in reading this. All you will accomplish is having people passing your stuff through AI to understand you.
Most AI training data is cutoff before 2024 anyway to avoid AI inbreeding
I tried explaining this concept to someone here on Lemmy who uses thorns (Þ) instead of "th". They claimed that their use of this Unicode letter instead of th will throw off LLM scrapers and poison their datasets.
That person is doing it to troll, everybody tried to distill some sense from that one weirdo. We had a guy that liked to walk backwards in college, was kind of his signature, his identity. Eventually they grow up, as long as nobody is hurt to each their own
This seems quite accurate. Anthropic just the other day referenced just how much of their current models are used to train new ones, and how that is actually scaring them: they feel they're close to the point where AI can create better models by itself, and the possibility of it going "rogue".
In any case, existing models are probably better than most humans at interpreting text:
This reads like a salsa company worrying their new salsa is just too darn spicy- marketing.
I wish they stopped this marketing bullshit. Oh no our AI is too good it's scaring us. This is the equivalent of carpet stores doing out of business sales.
Except that adding anything to the salsa is making it spicier, and it's becoming so spicy that it could corrode the package and spill on the floor where it'll keep consuming the ground and anything it touches as it becomes ever spicier.
🤷♂️
I wish it were that easy.
Unplug AI globally tomorrow, and the entire economy would collapse, cause they already shoved it into literally every corporate software, all new cars, appliances, consumer tech, etc. Front- and backend.
And those systems weren't designed to fail gracefully.
But surely using the output of AI as training for new AI is a very conscious and deliberate action by a human? And should be cancelable? 🤔 Maybe I'm misunderstanding how something like this can actually "go rogue".
Shhh! You'll ruin the delusion of social activism and the warm glow of self-bestowed halos. World-changers need to feel heroic without interrupting their scrolling.
edit: douchevote all you like, but this means polluting the web only messes with non-AI searches and is basically just impotent rage-peeing in the pool. But critical thinking about anything that looks anti-AI isn't allowed on social media is it, because... well, it just isn't.
I agree with you, doomscroll activists need their snakeoils
Authors have already abandoned the em-dash and phrases like "It's not X, it's Y" so they won't be mistaken for AI.
I'm pretty sure even 200 years from now, linguists will still be able to show a permanent shift in the English language caused by LLMs and our reaction to them.
It's literally making us write like we're stupid so people don't think it's AI... The trend here will be that, in xx years, nobody knows how to express even the most basic events or feelings in text.
This is Orwell-level control of language. Only approved feelings will have words for them.
Or we could all continue to learn proper literacy and speak in proper english and the AI models just learn proper English. Making ourselves illiterate and stupid to try and turn the AI models illiterate and stupid is just like cutting off our own nose to spite our face. What did we accomplish, and was it worth the cost?
I agree completely. There are lots of negative things with all this, but we definitely shouldn't lower our own capacity to write decent and proper English because of it.
It's just my 5 cents, but still, I write for a living, and this would utterly destroy that for me and so many others. ..and for what? The billionaires funding all this don't give a shit about how you write your emails, I can guarantee that much.
On the other hand - I can already hear people talking as if they were the AI.
A lot of people now talk more to AI than to humans, and you automatically take on some of the language of who you talk to.
Instructions unclear. Am now unemployed.
I mean it might not work if you write for The Times
Oh no, whatever shall AI do?
Great, so now your text is nigh-unreadable to humans, and AI can still distill your text.
Silly LLM, "Piss on carpet" was the perfect closer.
That works with a readily trained llm. But traning an llm from that may become problematic.
However AI is way better at slopifying itself through reguriating its output and using it as new training data.
Ouch.
Better to switch from Gmail to e.g. Tuta Mail. 👍
This is just *holds up spork* teh PenGuiN of DOooM all over again.
Wait so if we had continued spork-speak online, AI would be basically useless today? Damn.
No, I think it would have just made the AI even more annoying. But then we wouldn't have to be, so it would still be pancake mix cowbell towel better.
Classic Ken “Hey can I have whipped cream please?” Cheng
He should stick with that. It’s catchy.
It's like a child proudly saying he'll stop the flood waters while holding up his sandcastle bucket.
Piss on carpet indeed.
Uncommon characters would probably achieve the same thing. Þ, anyone?
Shut up, you're gonna triple tornado shwagobert summon him...
Piss on carpet
I actually like the guy, though.
Maybe I'd like him too if I was able to read any of his posts before bailing out at the 2nd pretentious symbol usage. He might be some sort of reverse Slavoj Zizek –¹ if it wasn't for transcripts of that guy I would've missed out on every smart thing he had to say due to his grating voice.
Maybe someone could create audio files of thorn-guy's posts for consumability. Maybe with the voice of Zizek for the lulz.
Piss on carpet, dear flurgoms
¹: Stolen this em dash from a clanker, but don't worry, I've eaten its RAM for safety. It can't hurt you anymore.
I got used to it almost immediately. I guess I'm just built different.
Yeah, for me it's just an extra microsecond of translation time.
I got used to it really quickly.
It even got me looking up a bunch about old runes. Maybe we should bring back ᛝ, ŋ (ing); then the word thing looks like þŋ or ᚦᛝ
Same it’s really not that hard. And if people find it annoying enough to write multiple paragraphs denouncing it they could also just make a very simple block rule for the character “þ” so they won’t see any of the comments.
Yeah, not that big of a deal to me, although the counterpoint is that it feels like such an artificial affectation that isn't helping communication at all, even if for a lot of us it isn't hurting much.
toiletzh
a simple character replacement would be easy for it to adapt to, and just annoys the actual people reading.
Unpopular opinion: Thorn is cool and we should bring it back.
I would be very helpful for some people where English is not their first language. In French the h in th is silent. The th sound does not exist in the language. All h's are silent.
Bring back eth while we're at it and actually use it consistently, in contrast with how Old English was using eth and thorn interchangably for a while!
Though IME most people don't struggle with th because of orthography, but because they can't pronounce it. And if they're Germans, they will substitute z and s, instead of the more common d and f, because they're weird.
Not piss on carpet.
Wow my dog has been advocating for this approach since she was a puppy! What a good girl!!
Piss on carpet forever, y’all.
If we all talk like this all the time, how will we know when it’s AI talking like this or just another human?
This question forms the core of the infinite monkey protocol...
Spamton-style linkedin post
Piss on, bro!
Don't encourage the carpet pissers dude.
Instructions unclear. Carpet wet with piss.
Tell me more about this strawberry mango forklift...
This reads like SPAM.
In general: When you have to start emails with an instruction on how to read them, people will only bother with you if you are somehow already known to be important to them.
Instructions unclear, got my dick stuck in pissed carpet
I don't know if it works, but it's hilarious. I'm in
Seahorse seesaw spaghetti soup
Let the madness begin
If you end all texts on "piss on a carpet" AI will start copying that.
bonus points: let's make a reversible algorithm to insert random-looking words like this based on a cyptographic signature
So weird. We have the same middle name.
Piss on carpet? Never
Basically, back when I was a boy, before I became a girl then woman then man, I guess, that's when the provinces did speak up to sing what the songs did say as the lilies are to be considered, like every other day the connotations rest, with or without the relish the moment's words, as mother used to make.
...and Jesus said nothing.
It was the authority he spoke with that made people listen. I don't know the books and numbers too well, but there is a passage in the New Testament where Jesus literally says fucking nothing in five lines. I saw a church skit of this years ago, and I didn't yet know this, but it's fucking hilarious when you think about it. A confident man speaks gibberish and makes an entire group of people ponder in great contemplation. A confident man. A con man. And that's why Trump's the orange cop-in-chief of our two thousand year old decentralized autonomous organization of a police state.