Spyke
IninewCrowreply
lemmy.ca

And after he recieved the Ten Commandments, he tore off his shirt, pointed to the crowd and told the non believers that they would have his wrath at WrestleMania IV

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Yeah, I was not familiar with the “brother” speech pattern and by the time I figured it out I had 20 upvotes so I was like, fuck it. I’m leaving it up.

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lemmy.world

Hulk Hogan is a racist piece of shit (and a union buster) and does not deserve to be immortalized in meme form

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Citation provided:

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/jul/26/hulk-hogan-wrestling-racism-gawker

Caught on tape dropping the hard n over daughter dating a black man. Fuck that asshole.

https://www.si.com/wrestling/2018/05/03/hulk-hogan-boys-girls-club-speech-racist-sex-tape-speech-video

Three years later, he had this to say...

“With this foundation, I can be accountable. I can learn from my mistakes and I can move forward,” Hogan said. “And what’s so cool now is working with the Boys Club, I have a chance to help these kids not make the mistake I made, being at the wrong place at the wrong time or saying the wrong words.”

No words on equality, changing his attitudes, nope just regrets being caught. Jfc. Prick.

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lemm.ee

i dont think a meme is going to be the make/break with one of the most famous perosnas in all of modern media history dude. youre better off prostesting his torn yellow shirt being in a glass case at your local hard rock cafe

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lemmy.world

one of the most famous personas in all of modern media history

You might need to expand your horizons. On the historical scale he ranks just above Dog the Bounty Hunter and below Tiger King.

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BigNotereply
lemm.ee

It probably depends on your age. To people my age (gen x) he's definitely more famous than either of those guys. He was all over the place in the 80s.

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lemmy.world

I am also Gen X, and the fact that I remember Sgt Slaughter and the Iron Sheik doesn’t make them historically relevant. My point is that none of them are. John Glenn. JFK. Barack Obama. Donald Fucking Trump. Maggie Thatcher. Muhammad Ali. Mike Tyson. Michael Jordan. Madonna. Bowie. Elton. Michael Jackson.

Those are the kinds of people who are historical figures. Hulk Hogan will be forgotten. He’s nowhere in the league of those kinds of people. He’s at best a D-list celebrity whose next headline will probably be his obit, after which no one other than fans of the 1980s wwf will remember him, and there’s going to be fewer of them every year.

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Right, no doubt, but still totally irrelevant to the fact that if you're of a certain age, Hulk Hogan is way more famous than the Tiger King guy and Dog The Bounty Hunter.

I'm not here to defend his historical significance; that's something you brought in and has nothing to do with my position.

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KIM_JONGreply
lemmy.world

So was Ronald Reagan, Madonna, Bob Sagat, John Elway, Eddie Murphy and hundreds of other people I won’t bother listing that were more significant than some pro wrestler.

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I'm not arguing that he was more significant, just that he was pretty fucking famous. What part about this do you not understand?

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hahaa.. listen I didnt say I like the guy. I also was careful to say "modern media history", not like 'world history'.

lol I think you're lumping him in with other gross old trashy blonde guys with shit eater mustaches that look like him

but seriously just to say- respectfully, like the majority of people living in a country with a robust global pop culture would know who he is. he was THE GUY in the 80s. Iconoclastic- like essentially every living person over 25 in Japan, Australia, Ireland, Mexico, Finland etc will likey know who Hulk Hogan is if you show them a photo of him tearing that hulkamania shirt off of his oily leathery body in the WWF ring.. he's possibly the most famous pro wrestler of all time.

Dog the Bounty Hunter? I just really don't think so.

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Adoreply
lemmy.world

Good lord lemmy users really just don’t wanna enjoy anything 😂

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Adoreply
lemmy.world

It’s a meme that has nothing to do with enjoying hulk hogan. You see it, you giggle at the joke, and you move on. It’s not that deep

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Vespairreply
lemm.ee

That's the problem though - shallow thinking. Iconography matters; the people we deify says something about our social values and icons.

Stop propping up shitbags and stop taking it personally when the rest of us try to correct the problem.

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Adoreply
lemmy.world

Nobody is propping up anyone lmao. Get off your high horse, it’s pointless anyway

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Vespairreply
lemm.ee

Nah, start engaging with the world beyond the most surface, fed-to-you level. Try giving a shit.

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I give a shit about shit that matters, not virtue signaling nonsense

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immortalized in meme form

I worry you may have spent a little too much time on the internet for today.

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Ikarosreply
lemmy.world

Hes not racist, just made a racist remark like we all have at one point in our lives. He did bust a union though.

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Ashyrreply
sh.itjust.works

Making racists remarks is what makes you a racist. Assuming everyone else has is similarly troubling.

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Totally agree.

And even if you don't say racist things, growing up in the US, the pervasive, insidious racist ideas (e.g., myths, stereotypes, falsehoods) may have infected our thinking.

I think Dr. I. X. Kendi framed it right. It's on each of us to understand what those racist ideas are, examine ourselves, and choose to fight against them not just in our own minds but everywhere.

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Dude, who are you fooling, you expect me to Believe you never dropped an N bomb? What are u getting out of pretending you never said or engaged in racist behavior when we know profiling in the very least is a very ingrained primitive behavior. Keep living in your fantasy land.

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BigFigreply
lemmy.world

I want you to know that the "default" is NOT saying racist shit.

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Dude, who are you fooling, you expect me to Believe you never dropped an N bomb? What are u getting out of pretending you never said or engaged in racist behavior when we know profiling in the very least is a very ingrained primitive behavior. Keep living in your fantasy land.

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lemmy.one

I've never once dropped the hard n and I can't think of anyone who has even my late racist dad. That term comes from a place of bigotry against black people.

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Ikarosreply
lemmy.world

Dude, who are you fooling, you expect me to Believe you never dropped an N bomb? What are u getting out of pretending you never said or engaged in racist behavior when we know profiling in the very least is a very ingrained primitive behavior. Keep living in your fantasy land.

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lemmy.one

Dude, who are you fooling, you expect me to Believe you never dropped an N bomb?

Yes. Millions of people can say the same.

Sounds like maybe you are surrounded and raised by racists? That sucks man.

On the other hand, our whole culture has been steeped in racism, ever since Europeans first set foot on the continent. So probably not a lot of people can truly say they've never had a racist thought or held some racial bias or did some racist thing, whether unknowingly or not. Because there are lots of manifestations of racist ideas and if one is white, one is probably blind to at least some of it.

It's a lot easier to never say a specific, disgusting slur.

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Are you saying only white people can be blind to their racism? Lol

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Vespairreply
lemm.ee

That's a real roundabout way of admitting you're a racist, dude

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Ikarosreply
lemmy.world

Dude, who are you fooling, you expect me to Believe you never dropped an N bomb? What are u getting out of pretending you never said or engaged in racist behavior when we know profiling in the very least is a very ingrained primitive behavior. Keep living in your fantasy land.

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I've never dropped an N bomb. Normal people don't, and that is absolutely not what internalized or ingrained racism refers to. It refers to the more insidious subconscious racist tendencies, those which I do fall prey to and have to actively unlearn the same as anyone else. The kind of overt racism you're describing is not the same, and has never been justifiable or explainable, it's just disgusting and racist. If you truly think everyone else goes around using racial slurs, you absolutely need a reality check and probably some serious amends making, you fucking weirdo

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reddthat.com

snopes doesn't know what Moses looked like

for all we know the ark of the covenant could have had turnbuckles.

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Dang why couldn't you have posted this a minute earlier before I started writing my comment lol?

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lemm.ee

How tf do they reconstruct someone who we don't even know whether or not they existed?

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Trevor on his way to get the jews out of egypt between two bank heists.

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lemmy.world

God: Here are the 10 Commandments

Moses Hogan: That doesn't work for me brother.

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feddit.nl

We have zero evidence what he looked like. The region was extremely ethnicly diverse. He could have looked like anything really, from pasty blond/red haired white guy to dark skinned. Most likely just similar to your average people in the region today.

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Maybe zero evidence isn't quite true. I wonder what the researchers worked off to make this guess? Skulls from archaeological digs in the area? Egyptian art? It's a fair guess, at least, that Moses' hairstyle would have links with contemporary Egyptian culture, given where and how he grew up. But I agree at most it all probably amounts to very loose guesswork.

Or did they just pump into AI: "make a picture of Moses that looks different to medieval and early 20thC style, that will give me academia-likes." ;-)

Edit: ah, pity, looks like this is a joke rather than a real 'reconstruction'. I also didn't read the fact-check before I commented!

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feddit.nl

I take it seriously when someone puts words in my mouth, which is just a douchbag thing to do, especially if you show zero remorse for it

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I've listened to a fantastic audio Bible (NT) by a British drama group, and in John's gospel the Pharisees sound Welsh and Jesus Jamaican. I love it!

Now you make me want a whatever-this-is-Moses rendition of Exodus-Deutoronomy, preferably with the genealogies and demographic lists in rap form.

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