Spyke
lemmy.world

Who told you he was Hungarian?

He did.

Can you trust that, any more than anything else he said?

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Exactly. Everytihng he said is suspect, and probably false.
Including the Keyser Soze origin story.

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Actually someone just mentioned that he was Turkish.

There are also other sources about the Kaiser, not only him

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TheEEEdiotreply
sh.itjust.works

Since there are so many joke responses: thr move is "The Usual Suspects".

PS: Don't go looking into the director of this movie. He was mentioned by name in the "Open Secret" documentary.

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Since there are so many joke responses: thr move is "The Usual Suspects".

Great move. I should watch it again.

PS: Don't go looking into the director of this movie. He was mentioned by name in the "Open Secret" documentary.

closes Stremio; opens SmartTube

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lemmy.world

I challenge you to find even the most savant polyglot speaking a foreign language without a trace of an accent.

Extra points for two languages with such different phonetics as Hungarian and English

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Valmondreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

English is doable IMO, there are so many accents already that you should be able to find one that suits you (except you must be able to say "r") if you just have to get rid of your accent.

Now try swedish. Just impossible.

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Pissmidgetreply
lemmy.world

Swedish is just speaking Norwegian using baby words in the tone of an upset child. Who calls their sandwiches butter goose, honestly.

Try Danish when sober. That's nigh impossible.

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Valmondreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

It's Norwegian that's the funny language, in pronunciation anyways! Hoppi toppi tuudi! Can't imagine an angry Norwegian... Never thought about the butter goose though, norway says "sandwich"?! Like sand and a sorceress? Hmm not much better.

Danish is excluded from all kind of competition because it's a language from hell, I'm totally with you there.

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lemmy.world

you three.. tisk tisk* don't you see? this tribalism of differences is the real reason why the Catholics were able to divide and defeat the vikings. this is why we all need to just come together with English. and besides to my American ears you all sound just terrible ::: spoiler spoiler (just kidding love you all) :::

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Klearreply
piefed.world

Try Danish when sober. That's nigh impossible.

Not even Danes can do it!

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lemmy.zip

I think swedish is very easy if you just listen to it. You can pick accents there as well, just avoid the unhinged stuff like visby and youll have a pretty easy time. Everyone brings up the swedish prosody and pitch accent but its just a melody you memorize/practice for each word. The two hardest things for me were/are y and the "sj"(ɧ) thingy.

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guyreply
piefed.social

I guess you could learn which word has which pitch accent, but can you hear it? Danes for example are deaf to it and can't hear the difference between tomten and tomten. It's the same word to them.

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Hmm interesting. For me its one of my favourite parts of swedish. I dont know which dialect does what but maybe skånska has less pitch and thats why the danes cant hear it as well. But once again, just listening to the language as much as possible is the best way to get a feeling for pronounciation. Also danish is just unhinged anyways i dont care what they say about swedish, they should fix their language 💀

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I don’t think it’s impossible to do, just impossible to do alone. If you’ve got enough time and a good dialect coach, you can totally get there (H>E at least, I’d suspect E>H is harder for many reasons)

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I mean kinda cheating but im bilingual but i still fail. I have an english accent when speaking hungarian and a hungarian accent when speaking english. Also words i dont use often come out in an irish accent cause i grew up there. Language is fluid in my head rather than something concrete. At this point im even mixing swedish words into it even tho i dont speak much of it.

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yesmanreply
lemmy.world

There is a known phenomena among some E Asian living in America to learn English so thoroughly that they loose the accent. The problem is that their English is too good; their diction becomes the accent that gives them away.

It's almost impossible to pass as a native speaker without years of immersion in the culture.

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East Asian or Eastern European? Asian to English is a hard change. I've met many Eastern Europeans that you'd never tell.

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I have long suspected that linguists were not people. Thank you for confirming that.

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lemmy.zip

Ummmm, whats the context here? Also as a bilingual hungarian-english speaker i have doubts about someone being able to learn english as an adult to the level of seeming like a complete native. Tho i still dont have context, was this spoken or written? If spoken then its impossible.

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cuerdoreply
lemmy.world

This is the movie Unusual Suspects, the whole movie happens during the interrogation to one of the suspects, who, on one of the great plot-twists of movie history, happens to be the mythical crime-lord they have been talking about the whole movie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6CqiShbBgo

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It's really a great movie. Too bad about Kevin Spacey being such a horrible human being.

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Owlreply
mander.xyz

He was serbian. As the wiki page says, and his name indicates

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Epherareply
lemmy.ml

Well, yeah, but it does also say that he was born in "Austria-Hungary (present-day Serbia)".

I mean, OP did respond by now, so I guess, it isn't about that guy either way, but don't think my brain did too bad of a job. 🙃

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it is a commendable effort, I am just to old, I thought a reference to Usual Suspects with Kevin Spacey would have been obvious.

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Biztos úr, hát ártottam én valaha önnek? Tessék vigyen csak egy kis házi pálinkát!

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