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We should write all numbers bigger than 999 999 in powers-of-10 notation

Most people can't handle dealing with million/billion/... numbers, which leads to mistakes like "Elon Musk has 600 billion dollars, he could give every person on Earth a million dollars and still be a billionaire".

Doing that with scientific notation would be clearer:
600 billion dollars=6e11
divided by 1 million dollars per person (1e6)


(6/1)e(11-6)=6e5=600 000 people Elon can give money to before running out (and that's if we assume he has that much in cash and not assets and stuff)

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palaver.p3x.de

Metric system and SI Prefixes anyone?!?? Musk has 600 G$ we have 8 Gppl. 600G$/8Gppl = 75$/p

Also seems to give the correct answer, in contrast to your wrong 7500$.

I feel this issue has long been solved (since the French revolution). Except in one big country who is allergic to proper maths and engineering... (plus Liberia and Myanmar)

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hendrikreply
palaver.p3x.de

Hmmh. I mean your original calculation should have worked as well, it was just a bit complicated so mistakes happen. I'm still more happy with what I proposed. It's the same thing as engineering notation. Which is scientific notation, just skip the odd exponents, that's overly complicated and a completely unnecessary extra step. The exponent notation will deal nicely with this anyway. 600 billions is 600e9 (instead of 6e11) it's the same number just that nobody has a clue what 10^11 is and everyone knows how many zeroes after a billion. So you skip all unnecessary conversions and just copy the number. It's 600e9/8e9 for the old example, which is 75e0 = 75. Or 600e9/1e6 in the new example, which is 600/1 e (9-6) = 600e3. You also immediately know it's 600k.

Engineers use it because it's really useful for real-world numbers. Also why it's in the metric system. And the less conversions and operations, the less mistakes.

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lemmy.ca

Most people can't handle dealing with million/billion/... numbers, which leads to mistakes like "Elon Musk has 600 billion dollars, he could give every person on Earth a million dollars and still be a billionaire".

Doing that with scientific notation would be clearer: 600 billion dollars=6e11=60e10 divided by 8 billion people=8e7

(60/8)e(10-7)=7.5e3=7500 dollars

Apparently this method doesn't work for everyone. You might want to check your math.

(As a clue, 600 billion is 600e9)

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Yes, 600 billion, which I wrote, is 60010^9, which is 6010^10 or 6*10^11.

But I did make a mistake on 8 billion people, so there's that.

... I guess we just can't handle large numbers well either way.

EDIT: Fixed and edited to give a better example where this approach works better

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Yes, 600 billion, which I wrote, is 600*10^9, which is 60*10^10 or 6*10^11.

Wow, thanks for explaining that to me.

Writing it as 600e9 was a clue for where you messed up the math with the "8e7".

... I guess we just can't handle large numbers well either way.

Did you know that a quarter isn't .25 cents? People get confused by small numbers too.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

What on earth makes you believe those people would better understand using the e notation?

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piefed.social

I can see why, but it's going to take a lot of time to switch from the decimal system - a hundred years at least.

Also, I guess I could say powers-of-. We just happen to be using powers of 9+1.

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