Spyke
lemmy.world

The pope's AI encyclical was good reading and reminds us to center human dignity, compassion, etc. Lots of ethics to explore with regard to AI and related cultural phenomena.

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"Fuck the ethical considerations and rush it through!" - most any american business person.

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eestileibreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

So when my priest raped me and the church protected him, that was an example of the ethical views and compassion and respect for human dignity you're talking about?

I guess I always have more to learn from this amazing institution, like how I'm an abomination for being queer.

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I am sorry you had gone through that experience. The only church that illuminates at all is the one we can set on fire :')

PS. This thread can easily spin on another reiteration of the arguments around "separating the art from the artist". That text on AI may have a certain sympathy to some.. I haven't read it. After this post, I thought "maybe I should?". Thanks to your comment I got centered back in my perspective: "nah. the pope can say whatever he wants to. I won't be his supporter nor audience."

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rootreply
lemmy.wtf

you are not whoever told you this was doing the work of Satan

all of us are God's creations, and God doesnt make mistakes

your sins do not define you, the crucifixion set you free of them. Have faith in Christ.

And may I ask for your diocese or archdiocese? Have you reported him to the police yet? I am incredibly sorry that happened to you

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I'm sure you meant well, but "have faith in Christ" is not an appropriate thing to say to someone that was assaulted by their priest.

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eestileibreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

The Pope (yes this one your precious Leo) calls me an abomination because I have had bottom surgery.

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feddit.it

major manifesto

Why dumb down proper news reporting?
The "manifesto" is called Encyclical letter, and is the classical format of publications of the Catholic Pope.

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feddit.online

I stand behind Leo's message 100%,

but you have to admit it is kind of funny that the original gaslighter organization which uses positive reinforcement to brainwash people into worshiping a deity of their own creation is trying to stop tech companies from doing the exact same thing, lol.

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azuthreply
sh.itjust.works

Yeah but at least that organization has not ever instigated a war, right?

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pingureply
piefed.europe.pub

Is an instititute not allowed to develop into something better over time?

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azuthreply
sh.itjust.works

Certainly they have not at all stopped misinforming people. There are also still elements that promote hatred.

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anomnomreply
sh.itjust.works

Have they ever truly gotten rid of the pedo problem either? Like all of the ones in the system?

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I know that they were "dealing with it internally", and they did seem to be taking some measures, but I would be very surprised if it is completely eliminated, especially since their methods and actions are private. Hell, the whole response could have been faked since nobody really knows what all was done.

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thelemmy.club

it was built on a weak foundation of lies for a people who are scared to die. But really who isn't... I remember hearing catholics say "those christians over there are not real christians" ...Then I proceeded to think neither of you two are christians but a lost people displaced by war, exploited by capitalist and no real memory of your past. Bondage is all they know. Without a scientific mind you just make shit up and in the hiearchy the poor pay more.

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Opus by Gareth Gore

ps I think book reviews are stupid but a review of a machine is not. Yes please tell me how to think... Don't challenge my stupid ideas. I love my hug box....

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"who are scared to die"

if catholics are afraid to die, then all of you are defecating your pantaloons this instant

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Certainly not one that has been around for centuries and has seen many different world views over the years!

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We in the USA have a issue with secular and non secular idol worship... The pope is a CEO... Kinda like his own little corpo kingdom... kinda like these billionaire welfare queen pdfile anarcho capitalist libertarian tech ceos..and it seems like both parties can't keep their hands off the kids. Like musky boy is trying to create or already created. These catholic clergy are just grifters and fraudsters. It is sad to watch the elderly spiral into madness and these vampires love taking advantage of the weak while posing as "the good guy".... the world is a inversion of what people actually believe. It is hard to keep your head on straight with such a heavy knowledge base. I looked into the abyss and it spit in my eye.

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Karlreply
literature.cafe

As much as I hate the organization, I want to forgive the people who run it. I want to believe they do it cuz they're brainwashed too.

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rootreply
lemmy.wtf

me when I know absolutely nothing about the Church and I watched a single netflix documentary

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lemmy.world

Pretty sure that documentary would be the more consistent and factually based religious piece of media out there.

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rootreply
lemmy.wtf

when you just look at your machine like this 👁️👄👁️ because the reply is complete excreta

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feddit.online

I was raised Catholic, actually. Went to bible camp every summer, sang in the choir. The book is fantasy fiction and the preacher's livelihood depends on convincing people that all good things come from god and all bad things come from humanity.

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and Jesus Christ wasnt created by the Church.....

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rootreply
lemmy.wtf

Please read the Bible further.

May I have some of the verses you read that made you think that?

and no it does not, not at all

Most religious orders (the way that most people become priests or brothers) do not have you earn your own money, you live in formation houses or active communities with priests and brothers

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rootreply
lemmy.wtf

translations depend on literalness and the way its said

for example

the difference between

"I ate a bunch of fruit today"

and

"A bunch of fruit was consumed by me today"

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feddit.online

Yeah but then you say a bunch of racist authoritarian shit and try to shrug it off as sarcasm when the crowd turns against you. You're not allowed to decide you were joking after the fact.

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lemmy.world

I grew up so ideologically opposed to these guys that I hate it when they make a good point. 😩

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Sir, I tip my hat in your general direction. That was, as they say, a cracking joke.

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jlai.lu

They are socially conservative, but they have been fairly consistent at asking people not to kill each other for the past decades.

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I think the leadership is less socially conservative compared to the past, but they represent some very conservative bases so they more or less are having to crawl progress forward or they risk a schism.

The previous pope, Pope Francis, stacked the Vatican with more progressive leaning cardinals. I believe Pope Leo will be following in Pope Francis’ footsteps in terms of appointments.

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You know it's a strange year when both the Mullah regime of Iran and the Pope of the Catholic church put something out there and you can't immediately disagree...

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slrpnk.net

Just disarm billionaires from their money.

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I thought that at this point everyone calls him Gandalf.

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lemmy.world

Since the Catholic church now owns more land than anybody else on Earth (170 million acres), perhaps the Pope can grace us all by paying property taxes from this point onward? The church's unimaginable wealth should be able to cover it... everybody else manages it somehow.

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talreply
lemmy.today

Since the Catholic church now owns more land than anybody else on Earth (170 million acres)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_lands

Federal lands are lands in the United States owned and managed by the federal government.

The federal government manages about 640 million acres (2.6 million km2) of land in the United States...

I'd also guess that the Russian and Canadian governments are up there.

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Mereoreply
piefed.ca

And the farthest west you go, the more the federal government owns lands. In some states like Nevada, the state only owns a small portion of their state land.

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This caused a lot of problems when the state courts tried to protect Native American lands being leveled by the Trump admin because of his bullshit wall but the federal government just outright ignored them.

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That's not anybody! I will be more specific, the Catholic church owns more land than any other private organization on Earth, but yes governments own more, and can seize land from the Catholics, too. It's happened before.

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Russia being a dictatorship implies they have total unquestionable control of all of Russian territory, which would put them at the top of the list by a lot.

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Yes, they had a late start, Catholic church has been around for over a thousand years, Mormons need to catch up.

Still, they are doing rather well with around 2 million (sources vary) acres, the fifth largest landowner in USA. That's very impressive, not paying taxes helps them a great deal financially.

Ask L. Ron Hubbard

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melsaskcareply
lemmy.ca

Are enough people going to church nowadays to warrant the big cash flows, as in the past? Went home to a family reunion last year and my aunt/uncles 8 children were raised catholic and went to church every Sunday. Discovered none of the kids, or their kids, go to church anymore.

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They're losing membership, but they have been unimaginably wealthy since the Middle Ages, they'll be fine. Not paying taxes helps, of course.

(that's just for the USA, they could be gaining membership elsewhere)

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rootreply
lemmy.wtf

what? the vatican is larger than the US? aahahahahahahahahaha

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if the vatican has more property than Russia and even all of BRICs combined, 😃

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sh.itjust.works

While we are regulating concepts, I wonder if anyone has tried regulating religions or economic styles.

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Yes. People have tried both of those things. Heck, the encyclical even talks about it. It's very long

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lemmy.zip

Cult leader in white robe writes about stuff he doesn't understand.

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