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U.S. pauses $14bn Taiwan arms sale just days after Trump’s summit with Xi Jinping in China

Taipei says it’s yet to receive formal notice as concerns grow over Washington’s commitment to island’s security

The U.S. is pausing a $14bn arms sale to Taiwan as it diverts munitions to sustain the war against Iran, exposing mounting anxieties over rapidly depleting stockpiles.

It comes just days after Donald Trump returned from a high-profile summit with Xi Jinping in China, a country that claims sovereignty over self-governed Taiwan and has threatened to “reunite” it with the mainland by force, if necessary.

Trump said he had discussed the matter of the $14bn arms deal “in great detail” with Chinese president Xi Jinping and would make a decision “over the next fairly short period”, breaking decades of U.S. policy that states decision on Taiwan should not be made in collaboration with Beijing.

U.S. pauses $14bn Taiwan arms sale just days after Trump’s summit with Xi Jinping in Chinahttps://www.independent.co.uk/asia/east-asia/us-taiwan-arms-sale-iran-war-trump-xi-summit-b2981653.htmlOpen linkView original on lemmy.world
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lemmy.world

Taiwan just needs to get trump to visit and the arms sale will be back on

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Mihiesreply
programming.dev

Or just send him a piece peace prize award, golden if possible.

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NekoKonekoreply
lemmy.world

A welcome group from the plane with lots of young girls waving flags would actually do it, I guess. That's not a joke. I'm tired.

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Brimstonereply
lemmy.ml

Just pledge to invest 100 trillion dollars to the us.

He’ll be dead before he figures it out

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lemmy.world

I guess the check cleared. So great he doesn't have to worry about being investigated for any sort of financial crimes anymore now that he can never be audited

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You think they still have anything in that? Red hats have been holding that bag for months now.

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lemmy.zip

From Putin’s bitch to Pooh’s bitch.

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Trunk know we can control the petroldollar and protect Taiwan at the same time. He's probably trying to buy time, because saving the states from bankruptcy was a higher priority than saving Taiwan.

Americans eat is life depends on the Petrodollar and taxing the world though money printing to maintain itself. Without it we are bankrupt.

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lemmy.world

Taiwan can also create chip and ram shortages in the US. Its so dumb.

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boonhetreply
sopuli.xyz

God damn Biden causing a chip shortage in the US.

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lemmy.world

Why do I get this feeling that Trump sold out Taiwan for either a bribe or concessions from Xi over Iran?

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nednobbinsreply
lemmy.zip

I think it's more that Xi bullied him into it.

It's likely that he made several points:
Nobody has actually suggested a scenario where the arms package would prevent or even slow down a Chinese invasion of Taiwan.
All the US wargames show that the US has no chance of defending Taiwan.
Trump's trade war failed.
His Iran war is failing.
Trump has burned most of his alliances.

He probably phrased all of that in fancy diplomat lingo but all the analysis I've seen says it was more of a veiled threat than a bribe.

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I don't think there is anyone left in the US government that understands diplomatic language.

I guess it's some cheap bribe and "working with the demented elderly.

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Because its not a secret. That's what happened.

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Trump is Russia bitch, now he's xis bitch. It's funny how the alpha male demigod always looks like a bitch when he gets around other world leaders. Fat fucking pedophile.

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lemmy.world

So Gabbard steps down, Rubio announces US is no longer a mediary with Russia's war of aggression in Ukraine and now this admin is kissing ass of Pooh Bear? Looks like they found a bigger fish to pivot towards.

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Worst trade deal ever.

I say it many times but agent orange finds new lows.

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right after ukraine has captured more territory, trumps trying to give pootin more breathing room to regroup.

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lemmy.world

I thought the US abandoned Europe to focus on China... They're just abandoning anyone with a working democracy

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mrdownreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Nobody has a working democracy. Europe is slowly falling into facism not tocmention that leaders lies in compaign to win then ignore people demands.

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fizzlereply
quokk.au

About half the population of any given country would disagree with you.

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amorpheusreply
lemmy.world

64% of adults say they are dissatisfied with the way their democracy is working

This is not the same as democracy not working.

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Well, as democracy is intended to be an expression of the will of the people, if a majority of them are unsatisfied I'd say there's a very good chance it's not working.

That, of course, doesn't necessarily mean it's not also their fault, though.

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k0e3reply
lemmy.ca

Japanese people barely even vote so I dunno what the fuck they're complaining about.

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mrdownreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Blame the politicians that are not trustworthy. Using the word barely is also an exaggeration. It is 58% for Japan and 64% for the usa in the last election.

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k0e3reply

I swear that number was way lower. I guess I was wrong!

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Europe is currently waist deep in fascism. I feel this time there won't be a hungry majority with nothing to lose, that is willing to give all they have to shut it down.

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“Over the next fairly short period” god this guy can’t word.

Also if the deal was agreed etc and part delivered I guess Taiwan can sue them or something?

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Can I take credit for the diminished influence of the US and less arms sales too?

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lemmy.ml

That's right, third party voters and non voters are the difference between winning or losing an election. So the only sensible choice is to learn this lesson and run candidates they would vote for.

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sh.itjust.works

You do understand that’s why they ran a centrist right? They need to stop trying to court third-party voters.

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They ran a "centrist" (lmao) because those are the policies that most benefit their owners.

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That matters in the primaries. Once the candidates are set, you get two viable options.

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He could get Xi's attention. Puten shows up, upstages him. Then in order to suck up, as if his little dictator friend will ever really like him, he withdraws support from an ally.

Sound about right.

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Just make another / multiple deal. Silly people. Both sides are snakes - so do snake things right?

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coredevreply
programming.dev

So, this is obviously bs. I'm the first one to criticize the orange person in charge, but China would obviously have taken Taiwan if not for the western support. No doubt.

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Limonenereply
lemmy.world

China is authoritarian. There is no way to nonviolently unify Taiwan under China, because the residents of Taiwan would be forced to live under the Chinese government, which would use violence against them.

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Siegfriedreply
lemmy.world

In the little mind of ML users, every country is full of sheeps except china and the evil US. Ukrainians, taiwanese, iran, venezuela... it doesen't matter, they dont have a say, right? It's all USA meddling.

GFYS

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slrpnk.net

The people of Taiwan do not need more guns.

The people of Taiwan, as represented by the government and the Legislative Yuan, do think they need more guns.

Probably because of the swarms of Chinese aircraft which regularly practise attacking them, and the even greater swarms which sit and wait.

I wish there was a diplomatic solution, because any military action in the strait of Taiwan would cause a rapid and severe global crisis.

But the diplomatic action should not be abandoning Taiwan, because that won't avert a crisis. If Taiwan is attacked, it will fight and land strikes on China too, resulting in exactly the kind of crisis everyone should avoid.

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slrpnk.net

I live in a country of 1 million next to a "global superpower" (also see "second army in the world") (also see "the Russian Federation").

And I swear by the name of Nestor Makhno that if they're going to try invading here too, I will be bombing military objects around St. Petersburg.

This is the same thing that the rest of NATO swears, not all by the name of Makhno, some have different ideas about what might work. :)

Deterrence works. People have the right to self-determination. They realize this right with alliances and guns. If a neigbour has plans, is big, has problematic manners: then with lots of guns. We learnt that Ukraine did not have enough guns to deter, and as a result Russia tried an invasion. Taiwan has geopolitical leverage with its chip industry and a sea that somewhat protects, but may have learnt the same lesson from Ukraine and wants more guns.

Also noted: .ml

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