Louis Rossmann taunts Bambu Lab by hosting banned 3D Printer firmware fork, dares $1 billion company to sue him — more creators pledge support and boycotts, Snapmaker donates equipment to embattled de
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Rossmann annoys me, but god damn I love that he is taking up these fights.
He certainly can be off-putting. The two videos related to this topic were pretty good though, imo
Love his work and him for it though.
At least he never dropped a "hard R" unlike LTT
/s
Taunts? More like following protocol someone else is trying to illegally exploit
I mean, he did also literally taunt them.
No, he does pretty explicitly taunt them.
Rossmann is just posturing for his fans.
He ain't got the kind of money it takes for this kind of fight. Prusa looked into to filing a possible court case. And they decided this is a fight they can't afford and can't win. Because it's not only Bambu's lawyers, but the Chinese government's money they have. And remember, the Chinese government holds a stake in Bambu. And Prusa can afford a lot better lawyers than Rossmann can.
No Prusa decided not to pursue it because it’s software related and very hard to enforce. They can spend the money and nothing will change.
Even if he doesn't have the money for court, the noise generated by all this might drive customers away?
It might. But I don't think there has been much of a cooling for Bambu's market share. There are plenty of fanbois and their marketing IS effective for first time buyers.
Link to original video (Odysee)
https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/hey-bambu-lab-come-sue-us.:4
Does somebody know more about the part where Bambu claims that orca is 'hacking' their cloud? How? By using the API? By actually breaking something?
As far as I understand it some guy created an OrcaSlicer fork that uses the same application identifier as BambuStudio when sending stuff to their cloud services. The identifier is available in their open source code.
It just seems like bad security architecture which would need to be fixed, but they instead try bully their way out of it.
OrcaSlicer is a fork of Bambu Slicer (which is a fork of Prusa Slicer, and that's a fork of Slic3r). There was a fork of Orca that used the same (GPL licensed, mind you) code that Bambu Slicer uses to access their cloud service, since OrcaSlicer removed that functionality last year. There's no foul play here by the devs, it's just Bambu blaming their security issues on a small community project. Very much against the ethos of open-source, picking on smaller members of the community is very much not nice.
Its a fork of Orca not the main Orca slicer project.
Oh, whoops! I will fix that now
Not to defend Bambu in any way, but they seem to be stuck between the AGPL and the Chinese government that wants control over the software in the name of 'national Security' (this applies to nearly every industry in China). And third parties are outside actors that they can't control. Which I think might be why Bambu is acting like they are. Their government is now leaning on them to rein this in. And companies in China fear the government more than the rest of the world.
When Bambu first started won this path, didn't they say one could buy a license to tie into their code? And Orca refused to do that. I wonder if part of the "price" involved approval from the Chinese government about backdoor access.
There are other Chinese companies that produce 3D printers that aren't acting in a similar way, like Elegoo and Qidi. Of course, they aren't the most open (closed firmware and such. Corporations be corporate) but they do still support third-party slicers and all that. Perhaps this could play a part in Bambu's decision, especially given that they are a larger player in the space, but it can't explain all of it.