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Rimu Mass Bans Users

Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards?

@[email protected]

What sanction did they impose (e.g. community ban, instance ban, removed comment)?

Mass instance bans

Provide a screenshot of the relevant modlog entry (donโ€™t de-obfuscate mod names).

Done

Provide a screenshot and explanation of the cause of the sanction (e.g. the post/comment that was removed, or got you banned).

Explain why you think its unfair and how you would like the situation to be remedied.

He has abused the modlog to claim 'harassment', which I have never engaged in. I have not even interacted with Rimu in any way for days prior to getting kicked from the PieFed developer Matrix channels.

He has decided to mass ban 20 users because they have spoken out against his erratic and hostile behaviour as of late.

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OBJECTION!reply
lemmy.ml

I'm out here posting commie shit every day and getting into fights about it. But occasionally I take a peek at MoG and I've never seen my name there, it's always just Cowbee this and Cowbee that. Now I don't even make the blocklist.

What am I, chopped liver?

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lemmy.ml

I do think it's funny just how much vitriol I seem to get, and I mostly stick to Lemmy.ml anyways.

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anarchiddyreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

They loathe you because they can't dismiss you without doing a bunch of reading they otherwise wouldnt do

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I tend to agree. If I were more aggressive, then it's easy to dismiss me as a troll, but I deliberately choose not to do that.

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curbsticklereply
anarchist.nexus

I'm pretty sure any interaction you and I have had was about as luke warm as yesterday's tea, and I think even that would be more heated than any interaction ive had with rimu. I think I once commented about someones preferred pronouns not being used? Eh, whatever.

Apparently I'm wayyyy more ban worthy than you.

Edit: I want a sticker to commemorate this event.

Edit 2: Oh, and for the record I think it was something like "they prefer x", and you replied with "whoops, let me correct". I don't want to imply it was some sort of negative interaction and give folks the wrong impression.

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lemmy.ml

I'll be honest, I don't really recall, which probably is in part because it was likely such a lukewarm interaction in the first place.

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OBJECTION!reply
lemmy.ml

I honestly wonder if they ignore me because I'm meaner. But who knows what goes on in their heads.

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I suspect it too, I frequently have to revise my comments to tone them down before posting (and even after) because I know confrontation just turns people off of productive discussion, but I think this causes cognitive dissonance in some rather extreme reactionaries. Few people mildly dislike me, it seems either varying degrees of neutrality or positive views, or otherwise extreme hatred. Just what I've noticed.

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lemmy.world

Honestly it's probably the amount of text. A few of the people who got banned are dyed in the wool multi-paragraph to full book of text posters. Cowbee and Staments being the absolute gods of this.

I bet that list is just a stack ranked list of numbers of words in threads they didn't like, and Rimu just banned line the top 50.

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No one has ever accused me of not posting walls of texts before ๐Ÿคฃ

I think you're right about it being about a specific thread though.

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calmblue75reply
lemmy.ml

You've yet to post 17000~ more comments to reach Cowbee.

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ISOreply
lemmy.zip

Is my name on the list?
Yes Sir
Sh...
Oh, but it actually has a different surname
Phew

You see, surnames are important. With them, you get a working fedilink, instead of a broken one.

(I don't care about the drama. I just saw users getting caught by this bug.)

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Stametsreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

[email protected] is the former admin of lemy.lol. It's also a bit odd because Piefed.social defederated from lemy.lol over their logo and Iso has told Rimu to go fuck himself a few times over it. The fact that he decided to block him here and now is telling because it proves its a personal hitlist and not coordinated harassment as he wants to claim. Otherwise, why wasn't he blocked prior? And even then, why block an account now from a defederated instance?

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db0reply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

That's really funny. Probably means rimu is maintaining a personal shit-list and decided to just copy-paste it to piefeds banlist.

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I think this is accurate, and I believe based on the evidence Rimu is sharing it with other instance admins to try to push a universal ban list.

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I've got no other explanation for why he's banning users that he has already defederated from. The only way he could be coralling that list is if he's looking at stuff from another instance and attempting to control the narrative for other admins.

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chortle_tortlereply
mander.xyz

Git gud scrub

Such powerful harassment as this ^ is how I was able to so masterfully reach ban status โ˜บ

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And here I am writing multiple paragraphs discussing the value of a minimal harm strategy to get my ban. I, myself, need to 'git gud' it seems.

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samus12345reply
sh.itjust.works

As some rando who considered piefed due to the problematic Lemmy devs, I agree. The stuff I've read about it has turned me off of it, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

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You could always come to Mbin instead. I'm glad the worst controversy we've had was kbin's lead dev's early reactions and actions towards the Mbin fork. Which is hardly relevant anymore.

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It's ironic because he's so concerned about the Lemmy devs. I know I've personally called out nutomic before, and we had a respectful conversation, but ended up disagreeing. Rimu does it shamelessly and without respect and then expects everyone to sing his praises afterwards after he forces his perception on everyone else.

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The only thing I've ever said to him was pushing back against his criticism with screenshots of evidence that proved him wrong.

He is not removing people for a coordinated harassment campaign. He is removing people to silence dissent and exert a stranglehold on his platform and his own ego.

PTB is, quite literally, not strong enough. He is an active danger to the entire fediverse as a whole. He is dragging down credibility of any instance that runs Piefed and has proven that not only is he a manchild incapable of regulating his own emotions and ego.

Piefed has become Chernobyl levels of radioactive. You can keep running a Piefed instance but you better expect questions on why you're helping to further this narcissistic psychopaths control and influence.

It's also kind of strange that [email protected] is on that list. They're a former admin of lemy.lol who had beef with Rimu but Rimu defederated from lemy.lol a while ago over their logo. The fact that he's banning that user in amongst all the others kind of proves that this is a personal hitlist and not harassment. Otherwise, why are you banning a user that you've defederated from?

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"Waah waaaah, the modlogs are unfair becuase they can be used to libel innocent people, I'll even patch my software so my server hides nasty things people say about me"

A few moments later...

"Harasser, Harasser, all of you are harassers! None of you is free of sin!"

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quokk.au

Offering to talk to resolve his grievances and apologising for any unintended offence is now harassment? :bc_rollingeyes:

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Apparently me thinking its a simple thing with no real downside to just be fine with the change, and not seeing the problem - also harassment.

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davel [he/him]reply
lemmy.ml

โ€œOrchestrated a coordinated harassment campaign.โ€ Thatโ€™s quite a claim; whereโ€™s the evidence?

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The only thing I ever did was post screenshots of his own statements and evidence that he was either actively lying or being a confused old man.

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tidderuufreply
lemmy.world

Their response would probably involve a combination of deflecting, discrediting you, attacking you, and doubling down on their warped perceived reality.

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Gorkreply
sopuli.xyz

It's difficult enough to get 20+ people to agree on anything. Like what toppings on a pizza order. Much less a targeted smear campaign.

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calmblue75reply
lemmy.ml

and lemmy.ml people and dbzer0 people getting together? for a harassment campaign? I challenge you to make them agree.

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To be fair, dbzer0 and Lemmy.ml are not entirely at odds. Many users are on good terms.

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The evidence is that whenever news about Rimu being terrible comes out or Piefed's terrible decisions as a platform come to light, I sometimes criticize Rimu and/or Piefed.

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lemmy.ml

Why do people do the "fake laugh then act surprised" bit? I don't think it's a secret that for as many people that hate me, quite a few like me too, and that's part of why some people hate me very much like Rimu here.

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db0reply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

While I do think you have sealiony behaviour sometimes (which is why some people dislike you, not everyone is like rimu), "harassing" is just not something you do.

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I disagree about the sealioning bit, but I can agree to disagree there. When I mean some people like PJ and Rimu, I mean people that specifically hate me, which is usually just frustration from being unable to get a rhetorical win over me or provoke me into crashing out (like PJ did).

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lemmy.ml

Gotcha, seems this method of Rimu telling other admins to ban people he doesn't like is why Blahaj.Zone and feddit.org banned me around the same time as Piefed.social. Very fun to see where both of those instances stand.

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lemmy.ml

Blahaj was literally the first instance that mass blocked people for wrongthink (newly appointed instant PTB mod banning everyone left of him) after reddit exodus.

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Makes sense. With Hexbear.net as an explicitly queer leftist instance, and the leftist instances in general being very LGBTQIA+ friendly, blahaj tends to attract those to the right of leftist instances, ie liberals.

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ah yes people would only do this if it was coordinated. Couldn't possibly be any of my actions

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lemmy.ml

Those users are probably going to end up in a banned list hardcoded in the program.

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Stametsreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Well, he already admitted that guardrails should have been put up on lemmy to prevent memes from taking root. So why not put up guardrails for users he doesn't like?

Oh wait.

He did.

He made an anti-cm0002 filter.

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I'm sorry but genuienly, the last time I saw this kind of behavior was like, two decades ago, Garrys Mod RP communities SteamID banning people from other RP communties in their game mode scripts.

This is just literally petulant child behavior.

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Goferking0reply
ttrpg.network

He made an anti-cm0002 filter.

That's a surprise. Figured he'd add features for them to help his crusade against ml.

Or they just posted too many memes?

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dubyakayreply

Anti-cm0002 filter means that you can't filter cm0002 when on piefed. Going by the logic.

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Stametsreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

No. It isn't. Because adding in a filter for a single user is extremely fucking problematic and should be left up to admins to ban or users to block.

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As much as I hate memes, trying to prevent them is dumb.

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Which is funny because people have said Lemmy's devs would do the same thing in regards to putting stuff into Lemmy. It's also stupid because anyone who cares can make a new account with a different username on another server, or on their same server to bypass that.

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Not gonna lie, I'm pretty sure at least 2 of those names have been featured on PTB before.

This place if rife with powermods.

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Aspis
lemy.lol

Hi. Admin of lemy.lol here who is also on that list.

I have made 5 comments in total and have not commented in the matrix channels. I have also made a single comment about Rimu. This.

Rimu is incapable of handling basic criticism. If an admin is such a threat that a single comment about him constitutes a 'coordinated harassment campaign', then Rimu and Piefed.social must be defederated en masse. We at lemy.lol would do so if he didn't defederate from us over his perception of a frog.

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Given how ubiquitous Pepe is as a template for emotes in places like Twitch, I argue that Pepe was taken back by the gamers as a mascot.

Now, because gamers are gamers I also don't fault anyone having reactive doubts about usage of Pepe. But I don't think those doubts are license to action without some burden of proof.

Posting frogs itself means nothing. The content of the frogs means everything, including dogwhistles. He's not a dogwhistle himself anymore, just with exceptions to that rule, like the specific groyper one.

He has been granted the title of having reasonable innocent use, but he has not been extended the rank of not having problematic associations.

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That's why you've got to use Pepe while being vehemently woke, to make it clear bigots aren't tolerated

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Wren
lemmy.today

This confirms everything I said about piefed months ago. I even made a piefed account and brought up concerns, only to be told the "anti-tankie" controls were for everyone's own good.

Sucks to suck.

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curbsticklereply
anarchist.nexus

I believe I may have said I thought the concerns were outsized. And if I had, clearly I was wrong.

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The D Quuuuuillreply
slrpnk.net

similar spot. seems like mbin has won the race for "least problematic threadiverse software" by simply not setting itself completely on fire

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curbsticklereply
anarchist.nexus

I'll be candid, I forgot kbin & mbin existed for a moment there.

Which maybe is a positive for their use?

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Goferking0reply
ttrpg.network

I thought it went the way of mbin for a bit honestly. Or just confused then mixed them up in which is still being worked on

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I honestly thought kbin was the replacement. Now realizing that's silly thinking k before m

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maam
feddit.uk

PTB, he banned me for screenshotting the public group chat.

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lemmy.ml

Rimu's also banned people who never interact with Piefed.social like myself simply if people like PugJesus make harassment posts about them (which feddit.org and blahaj.zone followed through with too). This is more blatant as it's even less targeted and includes people I've never seen break any rules, like Edie.

From MeanwhileOnGrad, against me:

::: spoiler ableism, misgendering

:::

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Thanks! I try to be more chill, people being at each other's throats isn't very productive for learning so I try to balance it out. It does go to show that those opposed to leftists will despise you no matter how you treat them or others if you're consistent.

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lemmy.ml

Nah, I don't even use blahaj.zone communities so it isn't too big of a deal. It was a full instance ban. As for Ada, I assume if I got banned, it's because Blahaj.zone agreed with permabanning me, though they haven't permabanned others that have done the same as me, just ones PugJesus and Rimu seem to hate in particular.

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lemmy.ml

It kinda sucks because I usually use my blahaj account to interact with the larger fediverse which means I don't see your informative replies...

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lemmy.ml

Yep, that's the biggest downside to being banned, if anyone on Lemmy.blahaj.zone goes to Lemmy.ml they won't see what I post there (or anywhere). I try not to tell people how to run their instances and whatnot, if they decide their red line is defending the communist interpretation of historical tragedies from liberal historiography then me getting banned is a matter of time anyways.

It's just important for those instance-shopping to know where blahaj stands on these subjects, ie against communists and for liberals.

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Grainnereply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

That sounds like a win for Blahaj.

Honestly all you ever do is copy-paste propaganda text and defend states violently suppressing civilians because you try to claim they were secretly all CIA Nazis or defending Russia invading Ukraine because NATO exists so it's fair that civilians die. You personally are probably one of the worst things about .ml.

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db0reply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Let's not start slapfights in this thread please. Keep things in-scope.

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Well can you tell them to stop talking shit about Blahaj? Iโ€™m sick of always having to censor myself for tankies when they never return the favour.

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lemmy.ml

I don't believe this is an honest assessment of me at all.

For starters, I don't think it's necessary for me to hand-craft a unique response to common, low-effort arguments against socialism or socialist states. If I have addressed an argument before, I find where I've responded to it before and frequently copy and paste, as I believe quality responses are more effective than unique ones.

Secondly, on the topic of "propaganda." In that what I am trying to do is create more communists and communist sympathizers, I definitely fall into the category of propagandist. I focus on direct conversations with individuals, rather than many individuals at a more shallow and easy to grasp level. This doesn't mean what I say isn't factual or based in solid logical reasoning, however.

Third, the idea that I defend "states violently suppressing civilians because you try to claim they were secretly all CIA Nazis or defending Russia invading Ukraine because NATO exists so itโ€™s fair that civilians die." This is, frankly, horseshit. I'd like to see examples, because I definitely have shown evidence from a myriad of sources for genuine lynchings of Jews and communists by Nazis that the Red Army stopped, and I've never tried to say the deaths of civilians is justified because NATO exists. I've explained the origins of the Russo-Ukrainain war as it traces back to the 2014 Banderite coup, and the ethnic repressions in the Donbass region kickstarting a civil war, but I've never justified the deaths of civilians, much the opposite.

If I'm "personally probably one of the worst things about .ml," then I shudder to imagine what you believe to be good.

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I'm asking you both now to drop this. Stop shit talking blahaj and engaging in slap-fights. This is not in-scope in this comm.

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If copy and paste is the only thing required to dismantle your tired red scare bullshit then that's 100% your fault, get new material

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You see, they're are allowed to shit talk safe spaces, people aren't allowed to defend themselves from the people who shit talk and invade safe spaces. That's only fair. Queers can't stand up for themselves, that's liberalism.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Soooo hes killed piefed with consistently idiotic behaviour. (I'm being kind here)

Hopefully the fork takes off and saves the project.

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davel [he/him]reply
lemmy.ml

Hopefully any popular fork unwinds its ActivityPub deviations and works with the greater fediverse community going forward.

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Nutomicreply
lemmy.ml

ActivityPub compatibility has never been a problem with Piefed, and in fact we are collaborating very well in private. Of course Lemmy doesnt yet support all the features that Piefed has, but thats not their fault.

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davel [he/him]reply
lemmy.ml

Oh. Multiple times Iโ€™ve heard that it has unilaterally broken ActityPub rules, but I never investigated exactly how.

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Nutomicreply
lemmy.ml

Not that I know of, but I also haven't tested Piefed nor followed the development closely.

Recently there was a case where federation of Piefed Feeds was incompatible with Multi-communities in the Lemmy dev version. It would have taken me a lot of boilerplate code to make these compatible, for little or no benefit. Rimu agreed to change it on the Piefed side instead, much easier.

A few days ago I read read about some blocking or hiding feature in Piefed that is incompatible with Lemmy. That might be inevitable if Lemmy simply doesn't support that feature. In the end there will always be some degree of incompatibility on the Fediverse, because every software has very different priorities.

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Nutomicreply

While JSON-LD is part of the ActivityPub specification, Lemmy doesnt use it at all (and afaik neither do Mastodon, Pixelfed, Peertube etc). Instead Lemmy uses JSON and Piefed is probably the same. We do provide the JSON-LD definitions which that comment complains about, but they have also often been incomplete.

Honestly I dont even know which Fediverse software uses JSON-LD. It doesnt seem useful to know "there is something called an Accept activity" when you dont have the UI logic to display them.

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JonsJavareply
lemmy.world

I was going to make a fork, governed by the users to ensure PTB features weren't present.

Is there already a decent fork, to save me time?

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Tangoreply
piefed.ca

A quick google turned up an agricultural consultancy in Malta. Do you have a link?

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BurgerBaronreply
piefed.zip

Is https://anarchist.nexus/ already using Pievolution? I wasn't sure since the footer still says Piefed. I'd rather use that than go back to Lemmy, it's just less feature rich unfortunately.

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I'm not sure if its deployed yet off the base, this is all fairly recent I believe. Hell I just cloned earlier today so I can see where I can help.

@[email protected] may know more

Maybe I'll have enough energy after the kids go to bed to address some of the silly items like naming/links, or starting some documentation.

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"these people don't hide that they don't like me and since I have a tiny iota of power I'm gonna ban them! Grr I'm angy! >:[ see it has an actual reason, I'm not whining! "

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I think most people in that list have the same question. This is a clear "If you're not with me, you're against me" move.

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alapakalareply
quokk.au

this can be read as a threat lol.
Powerful image though.

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lyrialreply
anarchist.nexus

Since this is the fediverse, and we are up against some crazy shit, as far as this picture goes, I say "Hail Hydra."

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alapakalareply
quokk.au

Yeah, but do we want to be read as harassers?
I follow the disengagement rule as soon as I am requested to. Doesn't โ€œMLโ€ instances do raids/agit spams?

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Diva (she/her)reply
lemmy.ml

iirc hexbear has had a 'disengage' rule since before even dbzer0

Doesnโ€™t โ€œMLโ€ instances do raids/agit spams?

not as far as i'm aware; i moderate on ![email protected], which is for all reactionary content and even has a rule against going after federated instance mods/admins. lemmy content is a small fraction of the content posted there and when it is posted, half the time there's going to be someone complaining in the comment section about how they don't care about other instances at all

obviously cross-posting something will get people who want to comment engaged, but people cross-post things on the fediverse all the time, it's kind of the point of a platform like this

also the meme image i posted was just a joke, people are always throwing around accusations about other posters being alts and yeah they're all alts, my alts!

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alapakalareply
quokk.au
  1. Thank you for answering.
  2. I am aware you were joking. But be aware how it reads to folks traumatized by harassment. Within the context of this thread, I immediately comprehended it was ragebait. But others not as literate and nuanced, may read this as โ€œIโ€˜ll make as many alts as I want until Rimu relents to our demands!โ€
  3. Wild to read someone read/experienced ใ†ใฟใญใ“ใฎใชใ้ ƒใซ.
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Diva (she/her)reply
lemmy.ml

Wild to read someone read/experienced ใ†ใฟใญใ“ใฎใชใ้ ƒใซ.

beatrice is iconic, i definitely relate to her a bit

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I only know her, because my wife asks me to play ้ป„้‡‘ๅคขๆƒณๆ›ฒโ€ CROSS, much to my

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If Rimu was banning people over personally targeting him that would be a valid concern. He isn't. Making new accounts to spread counter-programming to his userbase is not harassing him. It's only harassment if one makes accounts specifically to contact him.

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lemmy.world

That's weird, none of these memes are telling me to read settlers, disappointed in you.

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lemmy.world

I did, I even read it again when I saw the meme! I didn't rub it in anyone's face so I don't think I'm a socialist tho.

Did the 3rd read make you communist or is it when you start smugly beating people over the head with you reading list? I prefer sci-fi fantasy.

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Diva (she/her)reply
lemmy.ml

i mean you did kind ask for it this time.

i was an anarchist long before i read settlers, it didn't really change my politics, just heightened my distaste for the united states

sci fi and fantasy is fine, i also like trashy stuff on ao3 and visual novels

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I know I know, it's especially a dick move to bait you into the response, I'm being a jerk! God I hate the US.

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lemmy.ml

my shitposting game has been weak lately. disappointed in myself for not making it into the list.

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Same, I wanna be in the cool kids club lol

But I might not actually have any activity on the instance... was piefed forked? I can't remember.

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Extreme PTB. This is bad, especially after seeing how rimu tried to malign dbzer0 recently. Very ban-happy behaviour from the piefed admin.

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ttrpg.network

Well his claim of stepping away from public interactions latest as long as expected

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Alas, yes, PTB.

While any given instance can freely ban people for whatever reason, making reasons up is always gone to be PTB.

If they'd just said they didn't like the people and didn't want them around? Shitty, but only PTB on a technicality, in that that's something an admin shouldn't use as criteria. Yeah, I know that seems fucking weird, but there is a degree of personal choice when running an instance. Nobody has to let in people they don't like. On a small instance, it wouldn't matter.

But on that instance, it matters. If you're going to play the heavy on a flagship instance, you've got a higher standard to meet. If that's not in your capabilities, you shouldn't be running a main instance. Foist that work off to someone temperamentally inclined to not screw the pooch. But if you're going to be pulling that kind of thing, be honest. Don't make up bullshit reasons, it destroys your credibility and shows that you are, indeed, in it for the power fantasy to some degree or another.

Say what you want about the names on that list as members of the fediverse at large, but half of those names are well known to not abuse power, and the more recognizable ones sure as hell aren't organizing any harassment. Even if only because they're recognizable. They'd be smart enough to create a random account unconnected to their main ones.

So, yeah, PTB and full of malarkey

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I think it was largely people reactively hating on the Lemmy devs. People were claiming Lemmy's developers would push opinionated changes to the codebase and ruin Lemmy. Funny and ironic that this problem happened to piefed instead, and @[email protected] was the one we needed to worry about in the first place.

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Stametsreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

I don't know. But it's gotten to the point that I don't trust any piefed instances anymore at all. Rimu pushed a piece of code into Piefed a few days ago specifically to silence criticism against him and to silently delete/block posts on Piefed. He is exerting such an extreme amount of control onto the entire platform itself that I cannot trust the platform itself.

Every piefed instance, as far as I'm concerned at this point, comes with an enormous asterisk.

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julianreply
activitypub.space

> @[email protected] said in Rimu Mass Bans Users: > > Rimu pushed a piece of code into Piefed a few days ago specifically to silence criticism against him and to silently delete/block posts on Piefed.

Extremely concerning.

I knew there was hardcoded stuff to block instances, but this goes further... got a link?

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Here.

He pushed that into the code of Piefed at the same time that he was getting criticized a few days ago. Added the feature specifically to control the narrative.

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davel [he/him]reply
lemmy.ml

Because we can no longer sit back and allow Tankie infiltration, Tankie indoctrination, Tankie subversion and the international Tankie conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.

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chortle_tortlereply
mander.xyz

What are all those fluids for? Are they what you store in the tanks??

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quokk.au

Quokk.au used to be Lemmy, I tried changing some text on a page once it was near impossible with how obscurificated everything was across multiple files. With PieFed and Python I'm able to easily change large parts and can understand the project so much easier.

Lemmy feels more like an enterprise level app, whereas PieFed feels like something you can run on your home server and hack away at.

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Hey, let's create a thread about language preference and utilities elsewhere, โ€™cause I am interested in your perspectives, and blatantly I don't want to OT.

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ableist function names

Which ones? Not coming to PieFed's defense [1], just want to bask in yet another PieFed L, and I'm not personally that tapped in when it comes to the actual code in Lemmy and PieFed.

[1] Don't pay attention to the software my instance is running lol, I just wanted anarchist.nexus in my domain name to make my anarchism completely obvious ๐Ÿ˜†

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Goferking0reply
ttrpg.network

Okay now I'm like 90% sure that null account is a rimu alt.

They're both using that rimus not transphobic line as a defense to try and deflect

Edit:

Based on all interactions in the comments below null either really really loves rimu or is rimu

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Why world serinus have an alt though? They're happy to do it in public once they have prevented anyone from responding

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nullreply

Lol multiple people can see with their own 2 eyes that Mia said she thinks Rimu is a transphobe?

Must be an alt!

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This is like the 5th time someone has said that and no have not seen any evidence.

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I was told they liked the features and now just may not want to migrate.

Neither really looking like great long term options at this rate

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Oh my god the lolcowery continues.

This is just embarassing.

... See this is where it becomes highly obvious that if you sent this person like a physical, 'Power Tripping Bastard' award, a 3d printed statuette or medallion or something, they'd just continue to lose their shit in a more extreme way.

Like in a roundabout way... dude literally needs help, and I feel bad for him. Very much needs to touch grass for a couple of months, take a vacation from the internet, get those cortisol levels back to reasonable.

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Rimu is the creator of piefed? Glad I never switched, then! The Lemmy devs are certainly problematic in their own way, but piefed seems particularly heavy-handed in its censorship and banning.

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anarchist.nexus

I don't think an additional post would be helpful, but it seems I've been banned from feddit.online as well.

Which I'm not even sure if I've ever been on?

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Goferking0reply
ttrpg.network

Lines up with rimus call to other instances to rid them of these unmentionables

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curbsticklereply
anarchist.nexus

Yup, saw that after I posted the screenshot.

Who is being targeted for harassment now? I think its the people who are being posted about and being lied about, personally.

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Everyone but the ones causing the actual issues. Like now with rimu and before lemmy.world admins and mods

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Scrubblesreply

He's been pushing very hard that his rules should be applied everywhere, and it's why I lost all trust in Piefed. I went from being interested in switching to it to immediately disinterested, I'm not sure what he's coded in there that has personal interest to him. Yeah I disagree with people on the internet, but that's a server admin's personal decision, not something he gets to make for other admins.

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It's been extremely clear rimus goals for the fediverse from the beginning with the blog post they did outlining how social media should be.

I'm not sure what he's coded in there that has personal interest to him.

They seem to be wanting to build the next everything app in the fediverse. Built along how they feel social media should be. While also focusing power up towards the admin

Example: their discussions on growing communities

https://join.piefed.social/2024/06/22/piefed-features-for-growing-healthy-communities/

PieFed gives admins a suite of tools to take a more hands-on approach to gardening all the communities on their instance. It does this by ignoring the community divisions and instead treating all posts and accounts as a big pool of things to be managed. Of course there are solid community moderation tools available but I will not be focusing on them in this blog post.

In summary all the worst parts of reddit on the fediverse

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Nah, mine was from earlier, but at the sameish time across 3 instances. I presume the same course happened, Rimu wanted me banned and pushed others to follow suit (and some agreed).

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How can I participate in the next big harassment campaign? Do I get paid in Yuan? Ruble? Can I get it via Xi JinPIX?

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lyrial
anarchist.nexus

Being online via Lemmy caused me not one, but 2 mental collapses (I'm fine now, diagnosed with bipolar and have meds now) so I decided to give PieFed a shot, since I get bored on "fedi" (I hate that name for the Misskey forks). The promise of better features faster seemed amazing (politics of Lemmy devs aside). I've been around since the very first day of the Reddit API fiasco, and despite this 2 week-old account, I've been around the block. The age of this account is not coincidental. Thankfully, the FAF exposed Rimu's bullshit so I decided to start fresh yet again with the FAF (I'm already an anarchist, so why not?) due to this inexcusable drama stirring.

My biggest hope is that the AN fork of PieFed is deployed soon and properly maintained, because Rimu has changed from "dev making a new product with easy contributions" to "perhaps the biggest authoritarian threat to the threadiverse driven by sycophants" in a matter of weeks.

Rimu has banned some of the largest voices on the platform with this fell-swoop. This entire thing likely deserves its own static website in order to document what's going on, because people on the flagship PieFed instance are never likely to see it. I may do this just because this is worse more than many realize, I think. We collectively saw threads dot net happening and basically all of the threadiverse defederated due to obvious foreseeable issues.

This reminds me of that guy that was DM'ing people with a ban every time they used the word "bro" but on a much larger and more influential scale. We aren't talking about a mod (that was on piefed btw, I think he made his own instance) now, but an entire development effort that can deeply harm not only this platform, but the very idea of this platform as a whole.

In short,
FUCK RIMU

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Ditto. I don't want to say things about my past here, because I was really bad at times. But. for my first instance ban ever, I want to earn a ban.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

the people i recognize on the list are anarchists

y0kai, unruffled, db0, stamets, quokka

what is happening here

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lemmy.ml

To clarify, a bunch of Marxists are on this list too. Rimu is on a crusade against Marxists and anarchists, essentially anyone calling Rimu and Piefed out.

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supersquirrelreply
sopuli.xyz

Based on the whole vibe of Piefed loudly announcing itself by coming on the scene and saying "We are like Lemmy but without all those shitty TANKIES so you can feel safe" as if that was a primary issue makes me Zero percent surprised by this development.

I am not saying you have to agree with the politics of the Lemmy devs, rather it is the shallowness of the Piefed brand as "the fediverse but more centrist/rightwing and without those SUPER ANNOYING TANKIES" that should have given everyone more pause before they jumped on the bandwagon even if you have had bad experiences in authoritarian "left" spaces and were legitimately seeking that experience.

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One of the piefed mods says they totally want to help resolve that. Wait no sorry they want to resolve why everyone is upset without changing anything

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Malyca
lemmy.zip

I'm new around here and I must say you guys enjoy your drama.

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Tiralreply
lemmy.zip

Yeah, the difference between Lemmy and reddit is banning everyone doesn't really mean anything.

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Wow, talk about a self-implosion.

I, for one, would love to see an example of the "harassment" I engaged in.

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I thought piefed was bad news when I first read their document on tools for upholding healthy communities where they defended the idea of a karma system. Skavau very adamantly defends it claiming it's not a Karma system while describing everything wrong with Reddit's Karma system as if it's somehow a good thing. I'm not really glad that I'm right, this situation is awful. I am glad though that more people are seeing it for what it is, and hopefully will stop endorsing piefed so openly.

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when you're modding on piefed but you're a reddit mod at heart

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lazysoci.al

Piefed as a software was always hipster pop. People gravitated towards it because it was new, it's not Lemmy and it tries to be everything. Some features are genuinely good and others aren't implemented in Lemmy for logical reasons. Anyway, point is, the people that create pop tend to be superficial and not want to rock any boats. It's unsurprising that he'd want to create a silo of confirmation bias. But I'm biased because I want my threadiverse experience to be full of people with differing opinions, stances and lifestyles.

That said, I also don't think brigading helps, even when they're baited. Inadvertently or not. Everyone's own mental health should remain the priority.

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pyrereply
lemmy.world

i think someone made the argument that it was insanely less demanding on servers though

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Yeah, if you've prevented the majority of the threadiverse interacting with your server, it'll of course be less demanding. ๐Ÿฅด

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Not all, .world, lemmy.ca, feddit all agree that Rimu is actually the good guy and anyone who has proof is making it up. They even claim the harassment the queer people get is faked by the queers themselves, according to a few key Feddit users.

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Lemmy.world and also lemmy.ca might be on his side unfortunately (their administration). They seemed to be on the same page when it came to the last drama involving Lemmy.world threating to defederate from FAF (dbzer0, Anarchist.nexus, and Quokk.au).

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lemmy.world

I stopped looking for maybe an hour? And now I'm seeing several posts about mass bannings, some peoole talkig abojt someone who is anti-anarchist/anti-marxist, some problem with the Lemmy devs... and I don't know what's going on at all lol

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calmblue75reply
lemmy.ml

I think anarchist nexus are already running a fork, aren't they?

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tomenzggreply
midwest.social

The tree of a code repository must be refreshed, from time to time, with the commits of forks.

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sh.itjust.works

My piefed account wasn't loading. Now I wonder if I was blocked my I rarely have an opinion about anything to be banned at all

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egrets
lemmy.world

I have no idea of the circumstances of these bans, but I can say that several (maybe four or five) of these users are people I've encountered where the conversation has been politically charged but respectful until they showed up, and in around a two hour window, I've been heavily downvoted.

That's anecdotal, it's not strong evidence of coordinated raiding or bullying, but there does seem to be a trend, and I guess it might be the same thing Rimu is responding to?

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Wrenreply
lemmy.today

I don't know any of these people personally, but I remember the names I encounter here pretty well.

I try to judge each comment on it's own merit, but there are users I consider more trustworthy than others, and I know I align with the opinions and politics of a lot of users on this ban list.

So yes, users like say, Diva or Db0, have a bit more credibility in my eyes. Could just be that a lot of people agree with them.

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Diva (she/her)reply
lemmy.ml

users like say, Diva or Db0, have a bit more credibility in my eyes. Could just be that a lot of people agree with them.

why thank you!

i'd like to think that's not by happenstance, i do try to put in the effort at understanding where people are coming from.

in the past i've even had disagreements with a fair number of people on this list, my orientation is always to try to squash a beef if the other person is receptive to it. particularly if it's with someone i can tell would be a comrade otherwise.

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Wrenreply

It is noticed and appreciated.

It's my goal to put out more good than bad, even if I am a little shit sometimes.

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quokk.au

Just hours ago he asked other admins to ban us, resulting in feddit.online following him and both of them abusing the modlog to claim I am harassing him.

I do not view this as distancing himself, but expanding what he is doing and recruiting others to continue to target us.

Likewise I reached out days ago to initiate dialogue and was met with being kicked from all Matrix channels and instance banned from .social.

Removing an old post where many people disagreed with him means nothing to me while he continues to engage in this childish behaviour.

Iโ€™m sorry, but I can no longer see this being resolved as long as Rimu continues to act as antagonistic, dismissive, and immature as he has been.

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Wrenreply
lemmy.today

Distancing oneself looks a lot different from launching instance bans and handing other admins a slice of their personal beef.

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Wrenreply

That's not how disengage works. It's not a magic "last word" button.

This is a discussion worth our time because the fediverse is built on communication. Without it, there is no platform.

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he also deleted the post on Unruffled and AI

he should do a retraction. It was a hit piece that got traction on mastodon with a lot of people thinking that an LLM had been put in charge of moderation that rimu never bothered to correct.

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ZombiFrancisreply
sh.itjust.works

he also deleted the post on Unruffled and AI. He is simply distancing himself.

*edit looks like the other thread that was nuked was on lemmy.world

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vgareply
sopuli.xyz

I apologize, I did not recognize every single name on the list. I have no reason to believe you are toxic.

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